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MrMorph
Amarr
Nova-Tek
Elitist Cowards
Posted - 2005.10.26 22:36:00 - [271]
 

Originally by: Hast
Originally by: MrMorph
we were ?
Wheres my paycheck then ?!?!

DAMNIT, I'VE BEEN SCAMMED !


three packs of chocolate chip cookies on escrow in Jita IV - IV caldari navy.


That should be enough?


You now own me sir. *bows*

danneh
Amarr
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2005.10.26 22:38:00 - [272]
 

Edited by: danneh on 26/10/2005 23:10:49

Originally by: Dr MOo
dude, only two of those 38 ships actually has drones out Rolling Eyes


Thats why it took me 5minutes to load.



j0rz
Gallente
Dark Entropy
Apocalyptica.
Posted - 2005.10.26 22:59:00 - [273]
 

Edited by: j0rz on 26/10/2005 22:59:50
I LOVE U DANNEH

Lt Silver here btw

Oh btw, i am in need of ur deosghning skills again dude

same price as usual :)

Drop me a line on this char ingame

Ander
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.10.26 23:08:00 - [274]
 

Edited by: Ander on 26/10/2005 23:14:04
As one of those getting called a target during an engagement I can tell you what it's like.

I'm running on an 64bit (32bit envoirment) AMD 3600xp, 2048mb DDRAM on this machine.

You drop out of warp at predetermined range... screen sits still for maybe 5-10 seconds which seem like an eternity when you're fighting enemies.
Then you see your shield has already dropped to half and got 20 battleships targeting you.

Then you see the whole fricking gate covered with white "x":es for the drones swirling around, heck I couldnt even click the gate to get a dropdown box for approach or jump or whatever. Clearly, there was no evident reason for the drones to be out except for simply lagging everyone out who warps in. Nobody would be jumping into the system except allies of the P-A sitting on the gate.

It'd be impossible to target us with the drones at that range, so evidentily the drones were put out to abuse a serious issue in this game. "LAG"

A suggestion would be that during long-range fights, your 3times bigger fleet would focus on fighting with guns rather than drones over long-range.
You would fare much better.

Oh and to summarize my post...
Public relations spokes-person

Ajaya
Gallente
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
Posted - 2005.10.26 23:17:00 - [275]
 

Edited by: Ajaya on 26/10/2005 23:18:41
First of all, Danneh, fix your screenshot... all I see is a black screen :P

Second, not whining about this engagement, I'm just wondering now how they made it an 'exploit' to use small drones to mess w/ pos's, but using drones specifically to lag out the system is not considered one... Amazing how ccp doesn't think this longtime practice of some people in eve is okay when it's obviously blatently done to lag out a server. Oh well...

I know more than 2 PA ships had drones out, but tbh, I can't give you an estimate, because the instant i unfroze from warp all I saw was a mix of squares and x's and had to start lining up for warp before I could fully take in what was going on in that blob.

Oh well, 2 PA bs, 1 hac, and multiple smaller support ships down, 0 RISK losses in the engagement :)

Wearing boots of escaping and getting out with 67% structure 4TW Cool

RichThugster
Gallente
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2005.10.26 23:48:00 - [276]
 

Originally by: Ajaya
Oh well, 2 PA bs, 1 hac, and multiple smaller support ships down, 0 RISK losses in the engagement


i wont state numbers but since these kills dont seem significant we were outnumbered and we were warping into them as they sat with drones. Regardless, good fight

Invisible Touch
Caldari
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2005.10.27 07:30:00 - [277]
 

Oh well. We were bored to death yesterday. Wanted some action. Stayed in the J9 gate for like forever, waiting for you guys to come out of your POS bubble to take our chances. We knew you were set for long range, we knew our fleet mix was for short-medium, but we gave it a chance.

We risked it, you played it safe. It could have been more interesting if you took some risks as well, and "followed" us on our return to BKG.

I dunno about the HAC loss, we lost 1BS due to lag and 1BS was "hugging" the gate at 15kmShocked.

Anyways, a gf, and props for keeping it smackfree and clean once more ingame.


Attiladehun
Gallente
Fire Mandrill
Posted - 2005.10.27 07:59:00 - [278]
 

Funny thread,

Seems you guys having fun there eh (risk that is).
Well have fun there i would say, i'm missing you guys though Razz

Dri Kulsane
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.10.27 08:30:00 - [279]
 

Originally by: Attiladehun
Funny thread,

Seems you guys having fun there eh (risk that is).
Well have fun there i would say, i'm missing you guys though Razz


We miss you too Laughing

DigitalCommunist
Gallente
November Corporation
Posted - 2005.10.27 08:38:00 - [280]
 

I got a Raven in D4R, fitted, with some other named npc stuff + ammo. If anyone from RISK wants to buy it, evemail me ingame. Its been a year since I stole it, so the old PA smell should be gone.

If not, I'll throw in some more ammo free of charge.

herculetz
Caldari
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2005.10.27 08:42:00 - [281]
 

Let's not forget about tempest and crow downed in BKG when u guys camping the Z-K gate, but hey.. who's counting ? Laughing

KIATolon
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.10.27 10:01:00 - [282]
 

Edited by: KIATolon on 27/10/2005 10:03:00
Do you miss me too Contraband?

BTW, warp in at 300 or so km from the gate and let the grid load, then warp to the gate at your optimal when everyone has loaded :)

edit:
Just out of interest war target people why were you using drones when you knew they were long range?

;)

Elfaen Ethenwe
Caldari
Infusion.
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2005.10.27 10:07:00 - [283]
 

LOL I can always use another Raven, although Im a glutten for punishment me thinks. What with flying my other one out of there the other day.

eve mail me with a price dude.

if its really smelly i can always blow it up :)


Renu
Minmatar
Rebels of Shakuras
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2005.10.27 10:37:00 - [284]
 

Ive been trying too get a fight out of the RISK guys for like a week... I take out 1 ship .. even a omen .. and they run ...
GG RISK



Mosaic Im coming for you ....
Why speak ? F1,F2,F3......
Respect too the Russians

Cartiff
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2005.10.27 10:38:00 - [285]
 

Renu, stfu

NBSI no smack policy in effect

Emsigma
Caldari
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2005.10.27 10:49:00 - [286]
 

Damnit Cartiff. It is getting harder to hate you when you act like that. Stop it! Wink

Dianabolic
Gallente
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2005.10.27 10:54:00 - [287]
 

Originally by: Invisible Touch
We risked it, you played it safe.


A first for everything?

RichThugster
Gallente
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2005.10.27 11:10:00 - [288]
 

Edited by: RichThugster on 27/10/2005 11:12:50
Originally by: Cartiff
Renu, stfu

NBSI no smack policy in effect


i thought you promised to pod the next NBSI smack talker. Even if you dont follow through, respect

Quote:
Oh well. We were bored to death yesterday. Wanted some action. Stayed in the J9 gate for like forever, waiting for you guys to come out of your POS bubble to take our chances. We knew you were set for long range, we knew our fleet mix was for short-medium, but we gave it a chance.


A)we werent in a pos
B)Bored? we warped into your drone lag atleast 4 times
C)quite a few of your guys were sniper setup

If it was boring for you, then bring equal numbers next time, so that we dont have to warp in and out ganking 1-3BS a time to level the numbers down to a point where we can slug it out. If you guys sit about long enough without "getting bored" then once we have you down to numbers where it is an equal fight, i can be near certain to say we will come in and slug it out.

Also if you were bored, we are more likely to stay and fight if you guys dont have a good 10 second lag on us. If the tables was turned and you guys have 10 seconds lag, within that time we would have popped our primary and be shifting onto secondary.

This is not smack, it is telling you how it is, as any other PVP entity will tell you, 10 seconds is easily enough to pop a BS

Quote:

We risked it, you played it safe. It could have been more interesting if you took some risks as well, and "followed" us on our return to BKG.


Im sorry this comment is so ..... im going to be nice and say "silly". You guys brought 35 ppl to our 22 (you had more BS than us) you guys sat on the gate at jump range, with all drones dropped. Say you guys had just 25BS, each dropping 8 drones is 200 drones minimum. we warped in sufering lag each time. Please explain how you risked it, and we played safe? Come to think about it, were you even at the same battle?

EDIT: forgot to add, thanks for the kind words and encouragement/hints from DigitalCommunist, Dianabolic and even KIATolon, who i know that 4 weeks ago, if CONIN had fleet battle with the Corps in Lower syndicate, then KIAtolon would be primary, if he turnt up in a mining barge and his pod would be secondary. TBH i cant think of a single person who hate CONIN more than KIATolon, and the feeling is mutual. So HUGE respect
Originally by: me
these views are those of mine and not those of my corp/alliance, i realise some may be considered smack talk, but it is nothing short of telling it how it is



Razor Jaxx
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.10.27 11:18:00 - [289]
 

From page 2 of this thread :

Originally by: MrKestral
... regardless, we had 5 dreads ready to jump to BKG, ...


From page 10 :

Originally by: Invisible Touch
Oh well. We were bored to death yesterday. Wanted some action. Stayed in the J9 gate for like forever, waiting for you guys to come out of your POS bubble to take our chances. ...


RISK are squatting your home, living off your land. You stated that you had the tools to remove them. So, what gives?

Trefnis
Minmatar
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
Posted - 2005.10.27 11:25:00 - [290]
 

Cant you ppl just forget forum, log in and have fun???

I have nothing else than fun with our ememies and im happy they are here, yes sometime u have to wait at gate for both sides to assemble but then we all have fun.

Denore Mantrius
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.10.27 11:48:00 - [291]
 

Oi hama.. dont make me spank you and phonix, im in PA now, u got no chance :P

Ill expect a convo of peace from DIE. when they return lol Smile

Darknesss
Gallente
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2005.10.27 11:49:00 - [292]
 

ffs thats me ^^^ :P

Dao 2
Gallente
Thenta-Makur
Posted - 2005.10.27 12:04:00 - [293]
 

Originally by: Ander
Edited by: Ander on 26/10/2005 23:14:04
As one of those getting called a target during an engagement I can tell you what it's like.

I'm running on an 64bit (32bit envoirment) AMD 3600xp, 2048mb DDRAM on this machine.

You drop out of warp at predetermined range... screen sits still for maybe 5-10 seconds which seem like an eternity when you're fighting enemies.
Then you see your shield has already dropped to half and got 20 battleships targeting you.

Then you see the whole fricking gate covered with white "x":es for the drones swirling around, heck I couldnt even click the gate to get a dropdown box for approach or jump or whatever. Clearly, there was no evident reason for the drones to be out except for simply lagging everyone out who warps in. Nobody would be jumping into the system except allies of the P-A sitting on the gate.

It'd be impossible to target us with the drones at that range, so evidentily the drones were put out to abuse a serious issue in this game. "LAG"

A suggestion would be that during long-range fights, your 3times bigger fleet would focus on fighting with guns rather than drones over long-range.
You would fare much better.

Oh and to summarize my post...
Public relations spokes-person


yeah first off i know of 2 bs loss and 3 frigs/cruisers. In d4r, and u had no losses i think. Though yeah our real big problem was that even though we out numbered u the ppl that could actually hit you from that range was a smaller number. Also, i noted after the first fight that popping out our drones lagged us just as well, even though i pulled mine in it won't make much of a difference. And if u wanna keep saying 'OMG PA IS DOING BORDER-LINE EXPLOITS!'. Why did u avoid both my posts saying that u probably do the same? And at least ASS used to do worse. And talking about 'border-line' exploits wouldn't be going just out of the grid from the gate be a border line exploit too yeah? They didn't do that so u could sit there and if u wanted to come in just where we couldn't of hit you u coulda gone to around 500 or so km, maybe even less considering id be damn impressed with ppl hitting at above 200-250km.

RichThugster
Gallente
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2005.10.27 12:18:00 - [294]
 

Originally by: Dao 2
And if u wanna keep saying 'OMG PA IS DOING BORDER-LINE EXPLOITS!'. Why did u avoid both my posts saying that u probably do the same? And at least ASS used to do worse. And talking about 'border-line' exploits wouldn't be going just out of the grid from the gate be a border line exploit too yeah? They didn't do that so u could sit there and if u wanted to come in just where we couldn't of hit you u coulda gone to around 500 or so km, maybe even less considering id be damn impressed with ppl hitting at above 200-250km.


If you did pull your drones in then, respect to you, although i spect it was a command by the FC, not under your own accord that they were dumped, so more ppl than yourself probs deserve respect.
Ass USED to do worse, yeah we know :P

We sat off grid so that we wouldnt lag you guys outugh

And about us dropping drones? Ill put my hand up and admit that after you guys did it yet again, a couple of times when we were on the gate ready for you to jump in, i said over coms "shall we drop drones, lets repay the favour" or words to that effect, and twice i was told, no lets not resort to their level, and no cus they will just cry exploit

Ander
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.10.27 12:43:00 - [295]
 

Edited by: Ander on 27/10/2005 12:43:55
I can assure you that in that encounter in d4r you lost 2 battleships and a muninn.
Muninn went down at the first time we warped in.
First battleship who got killed was the third time we warped in, second time we had to warp out cause one of our guys were lagging out too much due to dronage.

Fourth time we warped in you guys started jumping back to j9.
We took out a straggler who was too far away from gate who you left behind.

We havent shouted borderline exploit, but we've shouted that it's a fricking irritation that the enemy drops a bunch of drones when they wont be a use in battle, simply to "lag-up". If that is to be considered an exploit it is up to the GM's/CCP.

Pamfaflic
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.10.27 14:52:00 - [296]
 

Edited by: Pamfaflic on 27/10/2005 14:54:01
"PA"

Does not matter how we kill you, my goal is you kill your moral bit by bit till you cant even sit on a gate without thinking "will i die today" "if i die can i still afford a ship

MrKestral
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.10.27 15:18:00 - [297]
 

it doesnt matter when we jump our dreads in you will die. i bet you didnt know NBSI are having 5 dreads built too. Omega industries FTW. That means between two of the northern alliances we have 11 dreads, since theres a nagflar also beloning to NBSI

Lunas Feelgood
Gallente
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.10.27 15:36:00 - [298]
 

Come on guys i just read last page i have newer seen so much flaming, smack in 1 bloddy pageShockedShocked Guys have fun kill eachother much easyerVery HappyVery Happy

Trefnis
Minmatar
LOST IDEA
C0VEN
Posted - 2005.10.27 15:39:00 - [299]
 

Originally by: Pamfaflic
Edited by: Pamfaflic on 27/10/2005 14:54:01
"PA"

Does not matter how we kill you, my goal is you kill your moral bit by bit till you cant even sit on a gate without thinking "will i die today" "if i die can i still afford a ship


16 day old Federal Navy Academy Member.

We are all terrified, I think i will not logg in for whole next month.

Lunas Feelgood
Gallente
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.10.27 15:41:00 - [300]
 

Quote:
you cant even sit on a gate without thinking "will i die today" "if i die can i still afford a ship


Are you reading my mindVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy


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