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Trapline
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.08.04 00:37:00 - [1]
 

It saddens me to see what has become of our once mighty society. We were a race built on tradition, the concept that the many are stronger than the individual, that the rules were there for a reason and thus should be obeyed and yet, everyday I fly through my homeland and what do I see? I see corporations that embrace the ways of other races, I see fellow Caldari eschew the technology of our fine corporations, technology that required the blood and sweat of our fellow caldari to forge, for Gallente vessels!

I see the rules which are suppost to govern our very lives flaunted by Minmatar, Amarr and even by my own kind! I see posturing fools preach of equality and freedom for all, even the undeserving and the worst thing, the thing that lamost makes me shed a tear, is the fact that only a very small minority of our people choose to acknowledge the fact that what is rightfully our, owr homeland, our birthplace is kept from us every day by pronography loving, drug taking, Gallente.

I call upon all who wish to see our fine State preserved, our homeworld to be made our own once againg and the very fabric of our ways of life restored, contact myself in your neo-com, use only secure channels, we must set about brining down those who flaunt the rules of our culture! I speak not of war, as I am not a particularly violent man, I speak of subterfuge, sabotage and espionage! Become an agent with the CSS, help me rejuvenate our way of life, before it is lost forever.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2003.08.04 00:54:00 - [2]
 

Monsieur, I don't rightly know what
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pronography

actually is, but could I try some if you are selling mon cherie?

Always in the service of beauty

Yoshokun
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2003.08.04 02:01:00 - [3]
 

If Jade approves of these pronographies you're selling, I will take three!

Tyrion Nydaerin
The Yakuza
Posted - 2003.08.04 02:17:00 - [4]
 

I'll pay 100isk for one!!

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Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2003.08.04 14:25:00 - [5]
 

Monsieur, of all the much derided Gallente drugs and narcotic corruptions you do hard deride there is one concoction you'd do well to sample posthaste ...

In short, (as some of my retro companions love to say)

Take a chillpill dude ;)

And civility in conversational interchange is neither shame nor weakness m'dear.

'Twould be a pleasure to expose your body to the depths of space if you do not moderate your tone when speaking in public old chap.

Always in the service of beauty.

Trapline
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.08.04 14:35:00 - [6]
 

Oh and good luck finding meLaughing Its my buisiness to be hard to find, hehe.

Aturayd
Roman Sandals
THAT Alliance
Posted - 2003.08.04 15:07:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Aturayd on 04/08/2003 15:09:15
Do you hate it when foreigners embrace your ways? Or its only when Caldari embrace the ways of foreigners. The Gallente are like America and Caldari like Europe.. no matter how great the Caldari think they are, they will always be embracing the ways of the Gallente Razz

*puts on fire-proof suit

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2003.08.04 15:18:00 - [8]
 

Monsieur Trap, since your little presentation on the progressive joys of xenophobia and nationalist intolerance specifically derided the Gallente penchant for liberty and unrestricted access to narcocotics and ****ography, I thought it amusing to take the wind from your sales with a little light-hearted jest.

But since you desire a more complex analysis of your work, very well;
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... the concept that the many are stronger than the individual, that the rules were there for a reason and thus should be obeyed ... yet everyday I fly through my homeland and what do I see? I see corporations that embrace the ways of other races ...

Where the Caldari laws and codes that promote isolationism, crass stupidity, and mindless xenophobia monsieur?
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I see the rules which are suppost to govern our very lives flaunted by Minmatar, Amarr and even by my own kind!

Which rules? And how are they flaunted perchance?
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I see posturing fools preach of equality and freedom for all, even the undeserving ...

And are you the man to decide just who may be "deserving" and who is not? Where is your moral authority to say such things monsieur totalitarian theocracy?
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... and the worst thing, the thing that lamost makes me shed a tear ...

Almost a Gallente turn of phrase that m'dear Trap.
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"...our birthplace is kept from us every day by pronography loving, drug taking, Gallente."

I'm not sure this is actually true old chap, at worst I suspect the Gallente merchant marine would just like to sell your tourists and vacationing businessmen designer drugs and solf-**** holoromps to promote the sense of broad camarderie between two ancient foes.
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"... the very fabric of our ways of life restored..."

Maybe you could give some examples of the ideal "Caldari lifestyle" under the auspices of commandant Trap the cultural tyrant ?
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"... as I am not a particularly violent man, I speak of subterfuge, sabotage and espionage!"

Is this some new form of ecofriendly low-impact sabotage that eschews the principles of destruction and mayhem m'dear?
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"Become an agent with the CSS, help me rejuvenate our way of life, before it is lost forever."

Or accept that myopic nation states and petty thought-control experiments in cultural purity are forever condemned as the unlamented detritus of the past; just so much trash to be recycled in the service of mankind’s luminous dream for a better future. You sir, are naught but a Pliocene-era reactionary in stalwart service of imperial tyranny and unreformed foolish pride. In truth ‘twould be a service to the Caldari state for me to teach your clone the error of its predecessor’s unwise preference.

Love and peace (in the ruins)


OOC comments removed
- Orestes

Trapline
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.08.04 19:06:00 - [9]
 

OOC comments
Please keep the Summit free of Out of Character comments.
also, keep in mind that flaming is not allowed per the forum rules Smile

- Orestes

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2003.08.04 21:02:00 - [10]
 

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Now I will answer your questions Jade. The Rules are simple, you work for a living, you devote your life to The State and The State will look after you and your family, I am not a xenophobe, I do not hate other races, I simply wish that more of our race would adhere to the old ways, tradition may mean nothing to you Gallente, you may wish to sink into depravity, fine by me, but too many of the younger caldari are corrupted by your ways of life.


All you express monsieur is personal preference and way you wish things to be. But why do you as an individual have a right to tyranise the dreams and ambitions of other individuals ... this tradition is a convenient cover for totalitarian control of thought and deed and aspiration to the benefits of those to run the state, who reap the best of the industrial profits, and who truly flourish in the light of the status quo.

To the Gallente yes, tradition may be important, but it is the tradition of the table setting, the tradition of courting follies, the tradition of dance and fine flirtation. One does not build a hellish cage for dreams in small traditions, merely 'pon the dry lust for power so falsely thus expressed in protectionist domination of cultural morality.

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To us, a sense of self is important, but a sense of unity is far more so.


Again you speak for yourself but name your authority thence derived from the many.

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I seek to restore our youth to the proper way of life.


Proper by your own codes and predilictions perhaps ... but who are you to form the aspirations of new generations monsieur? Are you a god to speak so finally of proper life and manifest restoration?

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As to me deciding who deserves freedom and equality, that is very simple: if you earn the right to be free ...


As in the customs of ancient earth m'dear, wherein the slaves of the roman empire might free themselves from bondage after many years of toil? So men are not born free in Caldari space? Instead they must earn their freedom by paying a debt incurred while in the womb (or birthing chamber).

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... to be equal through hard graft you deserve it, if you are given wealth and status by some overbearing gallente, you deserve it not.


Fortune smiles in many ways m'dear, would you scorn the blessings of fate?

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That is my personnal view, oh and one last thing Jade, we are not as gracless as you belive, sabotage can take many forms, violence only being the most obvious, I never thought you would fall for the obvious JadeLaughing


A quote for a quote monsieur Trap;

(from historical sources).

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The turning point came when Caldari partisans sabotaged the glass dome of the Gallente-inhabited underwater city Nouvelle Rouvenor. More than half a million perished. From then on a lengthy, bloody war between the two races was all but inevitable ...


So you see, for a Caldari fundamentalist to make jokes about bloodless sabotage is something in quite poor taste. You will forgive me for considering the actions of the past to be somewhat damning to your future aspirations in this regard.

Love and peace (in the ruins)

Trapline
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.08.04 23:30:00 - [11]
 

It is obvious we will not agree jade, we are seperated by a divide that I am not willing to cross, its a shame really, if it were not for your race trying to impose your rule on US in the first place we would never have gone to war.....

[OOC]complaint sent to mods@ccpgames.com orestes, not posted here, lets see if they bother to pay any attention.


 

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