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Nobues
Gallente
Friends of Xenon
Disturbed Behavior
Posted - 2005.10.17 21:08:00 - [91]
 

Edited by: Nobues on 17/10/2005 21:09:59
With war time blazing, guns will blare, people will die, and ships are lost. Commanders from both sides sitting around the planning the next big fight. Miners and manufactures are busying building the ships for the next big right, building the mods and the hope that as along as we still stand we will always have ships in dry dock waiting pilots to return to clam them for flight.

SHIELDS UP, Launch all drones, tacklers ready. Lock targets! FIRE!

Battles start both sides holding there ground, and endless supply of pilots coming for back up from back sides.

War turns to empire, and out of lawless space, everywhere you turn systems are filled up with battle drawn ships. Lasers on full power, rails guns at max speed. Missiles on there way.

(4 Months later),

Fighting still strong, commanders trying new plains, belts running dry, and builders trying to keep up.

New fight brakes out, commanders order all ships, both sides 400 pluss fighters on both sides line up for the order to fire first.

Taking place in the heart of eve concord runs scared! Systems turn to lawless space! People leaving, 3 hrs later gates are destroyed, everyone locked for a forever battle.


musashi myomoto
Caldari
Taggart Transdimensional
Posted - 2005.10.17 23:30:00 - [92]
 

It seems to me that F-E, NBSI, and PA have done Five a favor.

If you read Stan’s post he basically said POS wars are inefficient. A 25 M asset can monopolize a 4 B asset. The Five are bored with shooting POS’s, it is not much different than mining. They want to shoot ships. The change in strategic course was more a message to CCP, than to RA/RAT.

To me this whole affair is not decided in RA’s favor yet either. RA have chosen to “buy” their way into a territorial advantage. But now they have to keep all those POS’s fueled and on-line. This takes time and isk, all of which negatively impacts the RA bottom line. RA is playing to pay the bills after all. Eventually some of the POS’s will go off-line making for easy kills. Eventually the increased hauler traffic will make for easy and expensive kills.

Now F-E, NBSI, and PA declare and turn Empire into a very big combat zone, exactly what Five wants. The servers will go nuts. CCP will deal with a bunch of complaints from the newbs and carebears about lag, and third party fire. In short an exclusive PvP focus (particularly in empire) becomes the best way to illustrate the importance of resolving the POS-sovereignty issue to CCP.

Even though the kills mails have already started to pile up, I am sure the Five wants this conflict to congest empire as much as possible, for as long as possible. So keep up the good work F-E, NBSI, and PA you are important pawns in the Five’s message to CCP.

The opinions expressed here are mine alone. I am not involved in policy making for my corp, or alliance.

Obodi
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2005.10.17 23:57:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: musashi myomoto
To me this whole affair is not decided in RA’s favor yet either. RA have chosen to “buy” their way into a territorial advantage. But now they have to keep all those POS’s fueled and on-line. This takes time and isk, all of which negatively impacts the RA bottom line. RA is playing to pay the bills after all. Eventually some of the POS’s will go off-line making for easy kills. Eventually the increased hauler traffic will make for easy and expensive kills.


Not really, here, I think. RA only has to put real effort into their multiple POS if there is an organized enemy that is using POS warfare to contest the region. They don't have to constantly maintain tens to hundreds of POS that otherwise serve no value.

musashi myomoto
Caldari
Taggart Transdimensional
Posted - 2005.10.18 00:12:00 - [94]
 

Edited by: musashi myomoto on 18/10/2005 00:40:07
Originally by: Obodi
Not really, here, I think. RA only has to put real effort into their multiple POS if there is an organized enemy that is using POS warfare to contest the region. They don't have to constantly maintain tens to hundreds of POS that otherwise serve no value.


The way I see it, RA needs to keep those POS’s occupying the majority of the moons in each system since they want maintain sovereignty. That is a lot of POS’s, more than 100, probably more than 200. As Stan wrote, the Five will be forcing RA to log off on a regular basis. And once RA logs what is left to but check the moons.

Alliance chat:
“Hey guys we have an off-line CT in JLO”
“let’s go kill it”
“should I take my Dread?”
“yeah, why not”

Nytemaster
Gallente
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2005.10.18 00:28:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: musashi myomoto
It seems to me that F-E, NBSI, and PA have done Five a favor.

If you read Stan’s post he basically said POS wars are inefficient. A 25 M asset can monopolize a 4 B asset. The Five are bored with shooting POS’s, it is not much different than mining. They want to shoot ships. The change in strategic course was more a message to CCP, than to RA/RAT.

To me this whole affair is not decided in RA’s favor yet either. RA have chosen to “buy” their way into a territorial advantage. But now they have to keep all those POS’s fueled and on-line. This takes time and isk, all of which negatively impacts the RA bottom line. RA is playing to pay the bills after all. Eventually some of the POS’s will go off-line making for easy kills. Eventually the increased hauler traffic will make for easy and expensive kills.

Now F-E, NBSI, and PA declare and turn Empire into a very big combat zone, exactly what Five wants. The servers will go nuts. CCP will deal with a bunch of complaints from the newbs and carebears about lag, and third party fire. In short an exclusive PvP focus (particularly in empire) becomes the best way to illustrate the importance of resolving the POS-sovereignty issue to CCP.

Even though the kills mails have already started to pile up, I am sure the Five wants this conflict to congest empire as much as possible, for as long as possible. So keep up the good work F-E, NBSI, and PA you are important pawns in the Five’s message to CCP.

The opinions expressed here are mine alone. I am not involved in policy making for my corp, or alliance.



Post of the year. You hit the nail on the head and with a relatively short post considering the number of points you made. Kudos.

Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.10.18 00:32:00 - [96]
 

Looks like this will be a good fight indeed it has drwan soem of the finest ppl indeed our allies NBSI and PA and our enemies the 5 i salute you all and looking forward to meet in clean and fun battels Very Happy


"Only the Dead have seen the end of war "

Proconsul Para
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
Posted - 2005.10.18 00:42:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: musashi myomoto
It seems to me that F-E, NBSI, and PA have done Five a favor.

If you read Stan’s post he basically said POS wars are inefficient. A 25 M asset can monopolize a 4 B asset. The Five are bored with shooting POS’s, it is not much different than mining. They want to shoot ships. The change in strategic course was more a message to CCP, than to RA/RAT.

To me this whole affair is not decided in RA’s favor yet either. RA have chosen to “buy” their way into a territorial advantage. But now they have to keep all those POS’s fueled and on-line. This takes time and isk, all of which negatively impacts the RA bottom line. RA is playing to pay the bills after all. Eventually some of the POS’s will go off-line making for easy kills. Eventually the increased hauler traffic will make for easy and expensive kills.

Now F-E, NBSI, and PA declare and turn Empire into a very big combat zone, exactly what Five wants. The servers will go nuts. CCP will deal with a bunch of complaints from the newbs and carebears about lag, and third party fire. In short an exclusive PvP focus (particularly in empire) becomes the best way to illustrate the importance of resolving the POS-sovereignty issue to CCP.

Even though the kills mails have already started to pile up, I am sure the Five wants this conflict to congest empire as much as possible, for as long as possible. So keep up the good work F-E, NBSI, and PA you are important pawns in the Five’s message to CCP.

The opinions expressed here are mine alone. I am not involved in policy making for my corp, or alliance.



Damn, this alt's main has sum brains Very HappyRazz

trewqoop
Gallente
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.10.18 01:06:00 - [98]
 

Tick, tock. Tick, tock.

Time is fast running out for F-E. Enjoy the death that is coming your way. 15 Minutes of freedom left. Savour it while you can.

amstaffuuu
Amarr
Lyonesse.
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2005.10.18 01:16:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Proconsul Para
Originally by: musashi myomoto
It seems to me that F-E, NBSI, and PA have done Five a favor.

If you read Stan’s post he basically said POS wars are inefficient. A 25 M asset can monopolize a 4 B asset. The Five are bored with shooting POS’s, it is not much different than mining. They want to shoot ships. The change in strategic course was more a message to CCP, than to RA/RAT.

To me this whole affair is not decided in RA’s favor yet either. RA have chosen to “buy” their way into a territorial advantage. But now they have to keep all those POS’s fueled and on-line. This takes time and isk, all of which negatively impacts the RA bottom line. RA is playing to pay the bills after all. Eventually some of the POS’s will go off-line making for easy kills. Eventually the increased hauler traffic will make for easy and expensive kills.

Now F-E, NBSI, and PA declare and turn Empire into a very big combat zone, exactly what Five wants. The servers will go nuts. CCP will deal with a bunch of complaints from the newbs and carebears about lag, and third party fire. In short an exclusive PvP focus (particularly in empire) becomes the best way to illustrate the importance of resolving the POS-sovereignty issue to CCP.

Even though the kills mails have already started to pile up, I am sure the Five wants this conflict to congest empire as much as possible, for as long as possible. So keep up the good work F-E, NBSI, and PA you are important pawns in the Five’s message to CCP.

The opinions expressed here are mine alone. I am not involved in policy making for my corp, or alliance.



Damn, this alt's main has sum brains Very HappyRazz




proconsul come back :( Crying or Very sad we have plenty of fun now YARRRR!!

Xavier Zyrae
Gallente
Demonic Retribution
Posted - 2005.10.18 05:45:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Proconsul Para
Damn, this alt's main has sum brains Very HappyRazz

He's not an alt, he just hasn't set his forum prefs to show corp & alliance (He's a TTi member). I agree wholeheartedly with what he said btw. Smile

Fire Hawk
Gallente
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2005.10.18 07:48:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Trepkos
I hate ATUK.


Cheers, that's all we looking for, hate. Hate us, war us, fight us and make us happy. And again, we dont want your respect.

Darken Two
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2005.10.18 07:50:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Trepkos
I hate ATUK.


Cheers, that's all we looking for, hate. Hate us, war us, fight us and make us happy. And again, we dont want your respect.


Since you are so adamant that you dont want it, Im going to force my respect on you mister.Very Happy

Treebeard dk
Caldari
M. Corp
Mercenary Coalition
Posted - 2005.10.18 08:12:00 - [103]
 

Edited by: Treebeard dk on 18/10/2005 08:12:34
Originally by: Dirtball
Originally by: Treebeard dk

In case you havent looked at the map before you jumped in your ships and moved down here to fight us, the 5 own what, 3-4 stations now, I cannot see what us giving up our stations to RA/RAT CAN have anything to do with this at all.

But you are quite right about the rest.

Oh and good luck to all !



So it only took about 4 months and the loss of a lot of really good pvprs to finally realize playing eve to take stations sucks the huge wang.



Did we loose any?

Shittake
Gallente
RONA Deepspace
Rule of Three
Posted - 2005.10.18 09:07:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: YodaMasterJedi
Edited by: YodaMasterJedi on 17/10/2005 19:01:42

Where's ****take? (damn word filter) That roid loving carebear needs to put away his miners for a bit!!

Have you hugged your mushroom today? 25 mil for his corpse LOL Laughing j/k

GL to both sides!!


Xelas? Who? Very Happy Give Acidcharm a kiss for me Very Happy
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This looks like it's gonna be an interesting few months ahead for all involved.

My question is what are G and IRON's stance on this one? If and when 5 does come north they will undoubtedly encounter G/IRON forces here and there, which I am sure they will shoot and kill on-sight UNLESS there's some kinda of arrangement setup. If no arragement, it won't take long for 5 to kill a few G/IRON ships, get them mad, and have a couple more alliance on the bandwagon against them. They claim to want as many targets as possible but when is too much too much?

And is there a possible SA/FIX/Asendant involvement on 5's side IF things get tough for them? I don't know to much about southern politics to even make a guess, things are fluid down there these days as well

Lotsa really fun and intertwined politics in this one for sure Very Happy

KIATolon
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.10.18 09:45:00 - [105]
 

Quote:
Did we loose any?

Pvpers that quit a corp because they have to shoot a station are not good alliance pvpers and are best out of an alliance corp.

Ashen Brarn
Caldari
More-Cowbell
Posted - 2005.10.18 09:50:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: ****take
Xelas? Who?

I'm sorry to say, ****take, but you are a long running joke within XS. No really. Yourself, but also Edoo (PA "diplomat"). Take comfort being in company with that log-off "fighter".

I personally think the best description of you was, and I quote:
"****take is a mushroom - kept in the dark and fed lots of ****"

Your GALNET posts were quite the source of amusement & +morale... it truly was enjoyable watching your contortionist act with the sole aim to twist the truth and bite your own ass each and every post.

You don't appear to have seen any pvp action ever, well, maybe you're an alt or just a tough talking non-combatant... Whatever. Simple fact is, Xelas handed it to PA (oh yes we did baby, yes we did). Problems started when we couldn't do so well against the G/IRON/F-E/NBSI bandwagon blobs when BoB came to visit (which of course ended up being decided in the end by POS wars instead of combat).

Lunas Feelgood
Gallente
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.10.19 00:46:00 - [107]
 

Quote:
You don't appear to have seen any pvp action ever, well, maybe you're an alt or just a tough talking non-combatant... Whatever. Simple fact is, Xelas handed it to PA (oh yes we did baby, yes we did). Problems started when we couldn't do so well against the G/IRON/F-E/NBSI bandwagon blobs when BoB came to visit (which of course ended up being decided in the end by POS wars instead of combat).


Are you for real m8???
you guys started the POS war not use, you wouldnt fight us for most times. We tryed to lock the sys down while you guys keep anchoring POS. Second F-E IRON/G only came up for 1 night and that was when bob came with there 50-60 man fleet. Third NBSI blob?? you guys always outnumbered us unless you had all you alts log in the sys??? So fact is when NBSI decide to come up. We had 1 fleet battle where we jumped you and you guys had 5-6 bubbles on the gate and thats preatty much all the action we saw from you. And ofcourse the great 250man fleet battle when bob arived

Abdalion


Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2005.10.19 02:18:00 - [108]
 

Last I checked this wasn't a Xelas vs. NBSI thread.

Get back on track please, this thread is a FE announcement.

Flack Nine
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2005.10.23 05:42:00 - [109]
 

The most passive corp in this conflict will be Millenium, of course. Rolling Eyes

Naphtalia
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.10.23 11:21:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Flack Nine
The most passive corp in this conflict will be Millenium, of course. Rolling Eyes


Millennium

2 l's 2 n's

Luckily our empire mining ops and agentrunning homebase was relocated from the main conflict!


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