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 Soren Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2005.09.12 05:25:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Soren on 28/10/2005 04:54:11Recently PAK actually decided to recruit, but unfortunately things didn't work out well. The first recruit made off with a Vagabond, and if a "friend" can't be trusted as a member with such a small piece of cake then they can't be trusted with the gravy. As a result I will be keeping PAK to myself, I don't want you, and you probably don't want anything to do with me (or care). PAK has reset all standings to -10 (of the few I had positive) and has adopted a *snip* off policy. PAK will not be recruiting unless Sara Kerrigan returns from the WoW whoring and decides that's her thing. (Warhound doesn't count *cough*) Well.. maybe a few recruits  *Yes I edited incase someone thought to pull-up this thread when PAK has new members  * |
 Voltron Caldari Black Lance Executive Outcomes |
Posted - 2005.09.12 05:28:00 - [ 2]
erm.......why'd you give a new recruit access to a corp hac?
Volt |
 Soren Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2005.09.12 05:31:00 - [ 3]
Originally by: Voltron erm.......why'd you give a new recruit access to a corp hac?
Volt
I've known him for a few months now. It was a test.. if I can't trust him with 50M (as it is only 50M ) what's the point in having him as a wingman? Wasn't just some recruitment channel newbie. |
 Voltron Caldari Black Lance Executive Outcomes |
Posted - 2005.09.12 05:34:00 - [ 4]
gotcha, fair enough. |
 Gift Amarr Loot Pirate Coalition |
Posted - 2005.09.12 06:11:00 - [ 5]
Edited by: Gift on 12/09/2005 06:10:10 Originally by: Soren PAK will not be recruiting unless Sara Kerrigan returns from the WoW whoring and decides that's her thing.
awe, I was just gonna put my app in  |
 Omber Zombie Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2005.09.12 07:25:00 - [ 6]
You should join eve-uni. We love you Soren  |
 DigitalCommunist Gallente November Corporation
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Posted - 2005.09.12 07:33:00 - [ 7]
If I were you I'd post their name, then I would just grief that person out of at least twice as much isk. Does he have implants? :D |
 Joshua Calvert Caldari Rule One
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Posted - 2005.09.12 07:41:00 - [ 8]
I think you should name and shame. |
 Randay Caldari Rionnag Alba Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2005.09.12 08:20:00 - [ 9]
can i join? |
 David Goodwill Caldari Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2005.09.12 09:04:00 - [ 10]
DON'T HOMOUR THE ALT!!!oneoen  |
 Nafri Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 09:23:00 - [ 11]
Soren, you must have been very unlucky dude with your recruit  Ohh, and please name and shame, maybe the guy tries the same with some other pirate corps |
 Rillian Caldari Black Lance
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Posted - 2005.09.12 10:48:00 - [ 12]
Hey yas Soren , so thats where the Queen has gotten off to :P was wondering why I had not seen you guys on.
Also PAK is a very honerable Pirate corp, If they ever catch me :P I would ransom as they hold their word and would not pop you after paying.
Sorry about the theft mate if you send me his name I will watch out and pop him one for yas |
 Vader Crane Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2005.09.12 12:49:00 - [ 13]
Soren.. shame to hear ... :( |
 Soren Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2005.09.12 13:24:00 - [ 14]
Edited by: Soren on 12/09/2005 15:51:05The pilot is Piscis, he seemed kind of lame and I should have seen it comming but was willing to give it a try. He talks alot.. about his uber gearz and it seems he does have the isk (flying navy thron few days ago). If you want at him expect good loot. tbh I'm drawing conclusions.. but he removed his roles, blocked me, took the Vaga, and had lied to me more then once. I even realised it long before the escrow was accepted but seeing as you can't cancel a personal escrow couldn't do *snip*, and the helpful  GM wouldn't help either. |
 Trey Azagthoth Gallente T3AM America Wicked Nation |
Posted - 2005.09.12 13:29:00 - [ 15]
It pains me to see something like this happen, but rest assured Ill do all I can to make his life miserable. |
 Unbeleever Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2005.09.12 14:42:00 - [ 16]
Corp theft is lame sorry to hear. Hey soren we will have to finish that wolf dual we started some day  |
 danneh Amarr V0LTA VOLTA Corp |
Posted - 2005.09.12 16:56:00 - [ 17]
Edited by: danneh on 12/09/2005 16:56:23 Nevermind. |
 Soren Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2005.09.12 19:59:00 - [ 18]
Edited by: Soren on 12/09/2005 20:02:47It sounds like accounts were sold and the person piscis (on a different account now) has my vagabond although I'm still not sure what's going on.. Power says that he's uber and I to have to recruit him back so he can bum a F.A.G.(you know.. a UK smoke  ) Shhh... she is new. No talking about moderation... email instead. - Vanamonde |
 Amataras Minmatar The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2005.09.12 20:07:00 - [ 19]
good luck in getting your revenge Soren |
 Tenacha Khan Minmatar TunDraGon Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.09.12 20:36:00 - [ 20]
Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 12/09/2005 20:37:51 Originally by: Soren Edited by: Soren on 12/09/2005 15:51:05 The pilot is Piscis, he seemed kind of lame and I should have seen it comming but was willing to give it a try.
He talks alot.. about his uber gearz and it seems he does have the isk (flying navy thron few days ago). If you want at him expect good loot.
tbh I'm drawing conclusions.. but he removed his roles, blocked me, took the Vaga, and had lied to me more then once. I even realised it long before the escrow was accepted but seeing as you can't cancel a personal escrow couldn't do *snip*, and the helpful GM wouldn't help either.
I turned him down for tundragon two weeks ago
Im sorry to hear something like this happened to you, but your alot better off loosing one vaga now instead of having some1 your not sure about by yourside. Atleast he didnt go around and **** up your corps rep.
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 GoGo Yubari Gallente Veto. Veto Corp |
Posted - 2005.09.12 21:34:00 - [ 21]
Blah that sucks, Soren.
Do call me for the BBQ once you get his corpse. |
 Ajaya Gallente Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate |
Posted - 2005.09.12 21:48:00 - [ 22]
There was a time when Piscis was a reliable, trustworthy, solid corp mate. And as much as it pains me, he's turned into a liar, and aparently a theif. I keep hoping that the things he's done and the lies he's told have some good explanations, but the more and more I've seen of what he's done, I know that there can't be any good explanation for it.
It's sad really, I like the guy. A lot of people in my corp thought of him as a good friend. I know that not a single one of us trust him anymore and I think most of us aren't going to try to be friends with him anymore. I personally feel very badly for Soren because I know what it's like first hand to be lied to by Piscis so I share what he feels, but I also felt that maybe if Contraband had caught onto this behavior earlier others wouldn't have had to suffer because of it in the future.
But my ranting aside, after danneh pointed me to this thread this morning, I talked to Soren and did some research and found out that piscis basicly used a corp mate's alt to claim this hac on escrow from soren, then trade it to a new char he had bought from another corp mate of mine recently. He had actually sold the char piscis a few days ago, but the had had been escrowed to this alt which he had aparently told Soren was his own alt. So basicly, since we found out that the guy who owned piscis had basicly been lying to us for a while about various things, we kicked his new character he had bought from our corp a day or so ago. By looking at the logs from the alt he used, I was able to verify that he did infact trade the vagabond to his new char as of less than a day ago, and then I heard today that he was trying to sell this vagabond to another corp mate of mine last night (lol?).
Anyways, I've sent him an eve-mail asking what is going on. If he doesn't return the vagabond to Soren, I will ensure personally that it gets replaced for Soren. Even though we can't control what the previous owner of Piscis does or did, I still feel responsible in a way, and I also feel it reflects poorly on my corp the actions that he's taken since the few days since he left our corp. |
 Soren Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2005.09.12 23:57:00 - [ 23]
The conclusions?
First of all I want to give Contraband Inc. (Ajaya especially) +rep points. They were nothing but helpful about sorting this out even though it was really no longer their problem.
Now tbh.. I don't know what to believe. It was all one BIG messy situation. It all came down to bad communication, or one poorly planned scam. It is really all too confusing to explain properly so I won't go into detail.
I did get a Vagabond back, and in the end there isn't anything solid to hold against the old Piscis besides being kept in the dark and bad timing.
Matt - I'm sorry if you really were trying but I wouldn't give it another shot. The whole deal was too sketchy. I don't know if you care to still keep in touch, but that's your choice.
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 slothe Caldari Jian Products Engineering Group Atlas. |
Posted - 2005.09.13 00:16:00 - [ 24]
all i can say is...
you put gravy on cake?
ewwwww
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 Trey Azagthoth Gallente T3AM America Wicked Nation |
Posted - 2005.09.13 01:11:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Ajaya There was a time when Piscis was a reliable, trustworthy, solid corp mate. And as much as it pains me, he's turned into a liar, and aparently a theif. I keep hoping that the things he's done and the lies he's told have some good explanations, but the more and more I've seen of what he's done, I know that there can't be any good explanation for it.
It's sad really, I like the guy. A lot of people in my corp thought of him as a good friend. I know that not a single one of us trust him anymore and I think most of us aren't going to try to be friends with him anymore. I personally feel very badly for Soren because I know what it's like first hand to be lied to by Piscis so I share what he feels, but I also felt that maybe if Contraband had caught onto this behavior earlier others wouldn't have had to suffer because of it in the future.
But my ranting aside, after danneh pointed me to this thread this morning, I talked to Soren and did some research and found out that piscis basicly used a corp mate's alt to claim this hac on escrow from soren, then trade it to a new char he had bought from another corp mate of mine recently. He had actually sold the char piscis a few days ago, but the had had been escrowed to this alt which he had aparently told Soren was his own alt. So basicly, since we found out that the guy who owned piscis had basicly been lying to us for a while about various things, we kicked his new character he had bought from our corp a day or so ago. By looking at the logs from the alt he used, I was able to verify that he did infact trade the vagabond to his new char as of less than a day ago, and then I heard today that he was trying to sell this vagabond to another corp mate of mine last night (lol?).
Anyways, I've sent him an eve-mail asking what is going on. If he doesn't return the vagabond to Soren, I will ensure personally that it gets replaced for Soren. Even though we can't control what the previous owner of Piscis does or did, I still feel responsible in a way, and I also feel it reflects poorly on my corp the actions that he's taken since the few days since he left our corp.
Respect. |
 Trina Tron Gallente Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.09.13 02:57:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: Ajaya There was a time when Piscis was a reliable, trustworthy, solid corp mate. And as much as it pains me, he's turned into a liar, and aparently a theif. I keep hoping that the things he's done and the lies he's told have some good explanations, but the more and more I've seen of what he's done, I know that there can't be any good explanation for it.
It's sad really, I like the guy. A lot of people in my corp thought of him as a good friend. I know that not a single one of us trust him anymore and I think most of us aren't going to try to be friends with him anymore. I personally feel very badly for Soren because I know what it's like first hand to be lied to by Piscis so I share what he feels, but I also felt that maybe if Contraband had caught onto this behavior earlier others wouldn't have had to suffer because of it in the future.
But my ranting aside, after danneh pointed me to this thread this morning, I talked to Soren and did some research and found out that piscis basicly used a corp mate's alt to claim this hac on escrow from soren, then trade it to a new char he had bought from another corp mate of mine recently. He had actually sold the char piscis a few days ago, but the had had been escrowed to this alt which he had aparently told Soren was his own alt. So basicly, since we found out that the guy who owned piscis had basicly been lying to us for a while about various things, we kicked his new character he had bought from our corp a day or so ago. By looking at the logs from the alt he used, I was able to verify that he did infact trade the vagabond to his new char as of less than a day ago, and then I heard today that he was trying to sell this vagabond to another corp mate of mine last night (lol?).
Anyways, I've sent him an eve-mail asking what is going on. If he doesn't return the vagabond to Soren, I will ensure personally that it gets replaced for Soren. Even though we can't control what the previous owner of Piscis does or did, I still feel responsible in a way, and I also feel it reflects poorly on my corp the actions that he's taken since the few days since he left our corp.
<3 |
 crazy Minmatar Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2005.09.13 04:03:00 - [ 27]
:/ sorry soren |
 Godar Marak Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2005.09.13 08:07:00 - [ 28]
This is the worst attention seeking post EVER!
Corp theft happens all the time, and you just lost a hac pffft. People have lost a hell lot more and they dont make stupid "ooh look at me" posts. |
 Soren Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2005.09.13 13:00:00 - [ 29]
Originally by: Godar Marak This is the worst attention seeking post EVER!
Corp theft happens all the time, and you just lost a hac pffft. People have lost a hell lot more and they dont make stupid "ooh look at me" posts.
lol, alright (alt I assume? can't check atm). If I were seeking attention I would go to ships and modules and ask for a nerf of the Navitas because with it's -60% mining laser cap use, and ability to fit one miner 2, I think it'll crash the market and ruin the economics in Eve. This is a post letting people know what has happened.. If you don't care about me or my corp then feck off k? I'll do the same in your threads. |
 super4lt Amarr Doomheim
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Posted - 2005.09.13 15:09:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Godar Marak This is the worst attention seeking post EVER!
Corp theft happens all the time, and you just lost a hac pffft. People have lost a hell lot more and they dont make stupid "ooh look at me" posts.
lol, alright (alt I assume? can't check atm). If I were seeking attention I would go to ships and modules and ask for a nerf of the Navitas because with it's -60% mining laser cap use, and ability to fit one miner 2, I think it'll crash the market and ruin the economics in Eve.
This is a post letting people know what has happened.. If you don't care about me or my corp then feck off k? I'll do the same in your threads.
super4lt will side with you both in this debate. superalt belive Godar Marak is right but Soren is also right. Godar ignore posts if you dont like them, and Soren this thread was really unnecessary. superalt decides that both of you need to reflect on your shortcomings and hope you will live long and prosper. |