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Omeega
Amarr
Ab Origines
White Noise.
Posted - 2005.09.11 11:19:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Svabbi k
WTF?


10/10

Good luck VIRII

Boktor
Amarr
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.09.11 11:20:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: TIvian
Edited by: TIvian on 11/09/2005 11:10:10
Originally by: dirtydave
im still wondering why mass an mass slave corps are flying along side virii when they have openly described the as "scum". Wasnt it these same slave corps that went whining to trigger that SE had let pirates roam SE space at will? and here they are now doing the exact same thing yet another two faced responce from these backstabbers.


WTF did you just say? is it just me that doesn't understand what he is saying?
PIRATES!!! WHERE???? YARRRR!!Yarrr



Actually yes Rolling Eyes

Kipkruide
Gallente
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2005.09.11 11:24:00 - [33]
 

crap so no shooting virii anymore :)

Horsefly
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
Posted - 2005.09.11 12:24:00 - [34]
 

Good Luck VIRII. May your ammo strike true. or something like that. BTW see you around Laughing

Trakh Shardan
Caldari
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.09.11 12:39:00 - [35]
 

HAIL TRIGGER AND HAIL ME SELF

and ofc ood luck VIRII

forumposting alt
Amarr
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.09.11 12:51:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Trakh Shardan
HAIL TRIGGER AND HAIL ME SELF

and ofc ood luck VIRII



I see the TRIGGER CAPS LOCK DISEASE has struck again, please visit you rnearest medical or cloning facility for treatment

shivan
Minmatar
Drunken Wookies
Posted - 2005.09.11 13:59:00 - [37]
 

well seeing as in your orignal annoucment for coming down here you said you where fighting [5] and their allies, then I dont quite understand this.

Stain Empire are now hositle AFAIK to the [5] and SA are friends, basicly this makes you no good liers, like Trigger and his lap dogs, so any respect SE and myself had for VIRII has gone.

Remeber this people, VIRII are another corp that has to lie to people to do whatever it is they wanner do.

shivan
Minmatar
Drunken Wookies
Posted - 2005.09.11 14:06:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: shivan on 11/09/2005 14:11:10
and i quote

Originally by: Gypsy Djinn
VIRII hereby publically announces mission "Seek and Destroy". We have begun actively hunting down, in their home space, ALL corporations and alliances who are public allies of the [5]. We will be moving in force into the respective "claimed" space of said allies and by luck of the draw the first area of operation is Stain Empire "controlled" space. SE has been given prior warning of our intent and this notice is to any other corporations or Alliances who maybe working in the area, as due to the flawed standings system in EVE VIRII work on a positive/hostile (there are no nuetrals) system, which is to say that we shoot all non-positive standing pilots wherever we encounter them. Please note that being active enemies of the [5] does not automatically preclude you from being fired on upon by VIRII pilots, although we certainly we be receptive to requests for non aggressive agreements with any group that actively fires on [5]. If your organization does not yet have a NAP with VIRII and would like to seek one please eve mail Lord Cyric, Gypsy Djinn or Jake Sisko in-game, post your request in our public Diplomacy forum or contact any VIRII member in game who will forward on your request (any group that has any mention of friendship of [5] corporations or publically admits same need not bother). Those groups who wish to avoid our presence in their space are directed to remove all mention of friendship to [5] corporations in bio's be it alliance, corporate or personal and contact us to inform us of same.

Please let the inevitable flames from [5] members, allies and alts commence but if you are a SE pilot might I suggest that you 1st check with your alliance mates as to the results of our 1st evening of limited incursions into your space before posting as not to look foolish when corrected, perhaps a better use of time would be to contact your new "allies" and ask for help, I am sure they will have no problem traveling up to help, being the trustworthy and honorable friends that they are.


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Heinky
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2005.09.11 14:26:00 - [39]
 

Looking at the old statement from virii and the new one, it looks like virii are jumping sides because they are afraid or for some other reason. I dont really care why they are backing up SA , if they can back out of their own state of mind so quik ( wich was beating on 5 and their allies) i would not trust them at all.

ps: there must be some angry virii members out there that are actually men of their words.

Elenia Kheynes
Caldari
Avatars of Doom
Apocalyptica.
Posted - 2005.09.11 15:59:00 - [40]
 

Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just *snip* politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.

Flame removed.Laurelin

shivan
Minmatar
Drunken Wookies
Posted - 2005.09.11 16:28:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just bull****ty politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.


That is 100% grade A BS and you know it, your intentions where to kill the [5] and ALL there allies, well SA are now alligned with [5] and we are fighting [5].

So your still digging yourself a deeper hole, would you like me to get you a bigger shovel?

0Virtu0
Amarr
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.09.11 16:39:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: shivan
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just bull****ty politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.


That is 100% grade A BS and you know it, your intentions where to kill the [5] and ALL there allies, well SA are now alligned with [5] and we are fighting [5].

So your still digging yourself a deeper hole, would you like me to get you a bigger shovel?


So...you're angry at us because we refuse to support Stain Empire or something?

WizEye
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2005.09.11 16:42:00 - [43]
 

*MASSive hug to virii*

great guys, great skills!

William Dampier
Minmatar
V I R I I
Center for Disease Creation
Posted - 2005.09.11 16:56:00 - [44]
 

Lets cut all the nonsense political BS out... we aren't role players we could really couldn;t careless about who has what regions or whatever, we are still hostile to the 5 as they are to us. This agreement was made before the 5 announced support of SA's claim to the space and that almost caused this partnership not to happen, but it did because we had already made a commitment to some of our friends to help and really it's beyond their control to dictate to the 5 who they support and who they don't.

But all that aside the simple truth is from our point of view EvE sucks without war and its very possible to have war within 10 jumps as compared to this north vs south thing where everyone has to travel 100 jumps to fight. Our overall goal and what we feel is necessary to achieve it is our business but safe be it to say that having SA in charge of Stain Space, in our estimation, benefits us toward that end, it's as simple as that. Now that it seems that SE has been broken (without a fight unfortunately) I am sure we will be deciding as a group who will next be infected.

The fact of the matter is that 30 guys are not going to ever take down any of the alliances in the south and allies are made on the battlefield, we choose a group with pilots we think have the courage and skill (and have proven as much in the past) to be worthy of our friendship and our help. The actions of some groups during this civil unrest has made it very possibly that we will be very happy with the amounts of fights and the ease at which we will find them.

We had an agenda and list of groups we were going to engage when we came to stain a month or so ago, that list hasn;t changed and the next group on the list is still there and still hostile.

When we came to Stain all we heard was how we were just pirates in Stain space and we would be crushed and this and that... well we aren't the ones having to move back to empire and run our alliance from NPC stations in Agil. And although I find it funny that a group that called us pirates for coming down to stain and running guerrilla warfare have now just publicly officially announced they will be doing the same thing.

End of the day in EvE everyone changes focus from time to time, but we have never turned on a friend mid-fight, we have never led a group to believe they had our backing and left them stranded when the going got tough and we never will. We just want fights, fights we don't have to travel 100 jumps to get and with and against people that we respect Stain Empire didn;t fall in this category, so it was more important to us to remove them and temporarily switch our focus to that end. With whats being planned the next few weeks (and hopefully longer) will be very fun.



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Ketarn Faskee
Minmatar
Arctic Wind
Posted - 2005.09.12 07:28:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: SPUFFofDoG
no problem really, your already at -10 along with every Satin Allaince member.

(typo intended unlike some did)


Well then, I certainly hope the Satin Alliance watches out, as soft and sensual as they are. Honestly, I don't know why peole hold grudges against certain types of fabric. (Razz sorry, couldn't resist)

thoth foc
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
Posted - 2005.09.12 08:16:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just *snip* politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.



I'm pretty sure most of SA have been on positive standings since [5] was formed..

the more likely explaination is.. after your little piwating session.. you have decided you want to live in Stain's area, and jumping on whichever bandwagon you think will let you.. Rolling Eyes

i'm just waiting for ur standard "we control the entire region, except the 1 or 2 hours a day when they blob us" announcement, they where funneh Laughing

Drilla
Gallente
Yet Another Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.09.12 08:34:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: shivan
Edited by: shivan on 11/09/2005 14:11:10
and i quote

Originally by: Gypsy Djinn
VIRII hereby publically announces mission "Seek and Destroy". We have begun actively hunting down, in their home space, ALL corporations and alliances who are public allies of the [5]. We will be moving in force into the respective "claimed" space of said allies and by luck of the draw the first area of operation is Stain Empire "controlled" space. SE has been given prior warning of our intent and this notice is to any other corporations or Alliances who maybe working in the area, as due to the flawed standings system in EVE VIRII work on a positive/hostile (there are no nuetrals) system, which is to say that we shoot all non-positive standing pilots wherever we encounter them. Please note that being active enemies of the [5] does not automatically preclude you from being fired on upon by VIRII pilots, although we certainly we be receptive to requests for non aggressive agreements with any group that actively fires on [5]. If your organization does not yet have a NAP with VIRII and would like to seek one please eve mail Lord Cyric, Gypsy Djinn or Jake Sisko in-game, post your request in our public Diplomacy forum or contact any VIRII member in game who will forward on your request (any group that has any mention of friendship of [5] corporations or publically admits same need not bother). Those groups who wish to avoid our presence in their space are directed to remove all mention of friendship to [5] corporations in bio's be it alliance, corporate or personal and contact us to inform us of same.

Please let the inevitable flames from [5] members, allies and alts commence but if you are a SE pilot might I suggest that you 1st check with your alliance mates as to the results of our 1st evening of limited incursions into your space before posting as not to look foolish when corrected, perhaps a better use of time would be to contact your new "allies" and ask for help, I am sure they will have no problem traveling up to help, being the trustworthy and honorable friends that they are.


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LOL - pwned.

Quoted for truth.

Drilla
Gallente
Yet Another Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.09.12 08:37:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just *snip* politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.

Flame removed.Laurelin


Whatever excuse that let's you sleep better at night.

Fact of the matter is that you saw the chance for easy kills and took it regardless of your previous statements or intentions. If you were a corp that was true to your word you'd have helped SE against SA/5 but wait, that would mean no easy kills and people who can fight you back.

Rolling Eyes

Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Rule One
Posted - 2005.09.12 08:49:00 - [49]
 

Bandwagons 4tw.

Nafri
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2005.09.12 09:24:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Drilla
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just *snip* politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.

Flame removed.Laurelin


Whatever excuse that let's you sleep better at night.

Fact of the matter is that you saw the chance for easy kills and took it regardless of your previous statements or intentions. If you were a corp that was true to your word you'd have helped SE against SA/5 but wait, that would mean no easy kills and people who can fight you back.

Rolling Eyes



My guess goes that thy will fight SA after SE

Loka
Gallente
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
Posted - 2005.09.12 11:31:00 - [51]
 

I never was a fan of politics, even when i was involved in too many :P

My opinion, let anybody else their opinion. Talking about some things isnt possible. Sometimes peace, respect and souveranity is gained by force, not by beeing good friends, as pathetic it sounds.

I say let VIRII do their own stuff as they wish. Let all others follow their own agenda and be honest to your own goals and agenda.

Nothing makes me more sad as beeing backstabbed. My PC is repaired and iam looking forward for some fun. Iam not paying 15 a month to have a better chat programm, with visual effects.

Twisted Evil cya in space

Saladin
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2005.09.12 15:19:00 - [52]
 

Its amazing how the bandwagon references come from people far removed from the region in question.

VIRII lived in stain for 2 months so far without problems. We fought, we npc'd, we did agent missions. There were only 2 days out of those 2 months where SE camped us in contunously with ridiculous numbers. On the second day we undocked, still outnumbered, and forced them to flee. VIRII went to great pains to find fights in Stain, in many instances engaging superior numbers (2:3 odds against us was not unsual) and jumped in on camps on several occassions. We are called station huggers but the fact remains that we never played the undock/dock game the way our enemies did. When hostiles were hard to come by, sure we put up a few bubbles to see what fish we would catch. In fact what impressed me most with VIRII was the degree of specialization of its members and the way everyone was willing to think outside the box and take calculated risks. This was never a quality I have found in any of my enemies, who only know one trick: Outnumber them and then get them to aggro. The One-trick ponies know who they are.

Drilla and others can re-post old posts until they are blue in the face. Policy change is something everyone goes through, and for us we felt that finishing off SE remnants and getting the current objective done was more important than going back to a policy statement months ago and see what to do next. We never anticipated that so many SE corps would join SA. Our corporation will always do what its members feel is best at the current time, and we will not be held hostage by PR statements and policy delcarations that were issued for a different set of circumstances. If you want to find a policy to lock us in to, then I will say that what VIRII wants from EVE is the same as what everyone else wants: Fun.

Nuclear Option
Amarr
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.09.12 15:31:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Saladin
Its amazing how the bandwagon references come from people far removed from the region in question.

VIRII lived in stain for 2 months so far without problems. We fought, we npc'd, we did agent missions. There were only 2 days out of those 2 months where SE camped us in contunously with ridiculous numbers. On the second day we undocked, still outnumbered, and forced them to flee. VIRII went to great pains to find fights in Stain, in many instances engaging superior numbers (2:3 odds against us was not unsual) and jumped in on camps on several occassions. We are called station huggers but the fact remains that we never played the undock/dock game the way our enemies did. When hostiles were hard to come by, sure we put up a few bubbles to see what fish we would catch. In fact what impressed me most with VIRII was the degree of specialization of its members and the way everyone was willing to think outside the box and take calculated risks. This was never a quality I have found in any of my enemies, who only know one trick: Outnumber them and then get them to aggro. The One-trick ponies know who they are.


Drilla and others can re-post old posts until they are blue in the face. Policy change is something everyone goes through, and for us we felt that finishing off SE remnants and getting the current objective done was more important than going back to a policy statement months ago and see what to do next. We never anticipated that so many SE corps would join SA. Our corporation will always do what its members feel is best at the current time, and we will not be held hostage by PR statements and policy delcarations that were issued for a different set of circumstances. If you want to find a policy to lock us in to, then I will say that what VIRII wants from EVE is the same as what everyone else wants: Fun.


flip-flop

EB Xile
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2005.09.12 16:03:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Bandwagons 4tw.


Bandwagons? We were killing SE before it became cool. We are not aligned with [5] in any form, if we see them, we shoot them. Now, the politics that led to our alignment with SA is entirely different. As our objective was: Destroy Stain Empire. Now, we are stuck in an odd situation. We were Allied with SA before [5]'s declaration of support who up to that time had been backing SE.
Now, here comes the tricky part for the rest of you folks. We decided to KEEP our alignment and finish off SE, because we are men of our word. Because [5] is a bunch of nap-a-holics doesnt mean we should change our stance toward SA. Our policy is proactive and reactive, not stagnent.

oh, btw there is no bandwagon...

Drilla
Gallente
Yet Another Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.09.12 17:02:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Saladin
Drilla and others can re-post old posts until they are blue in the face.


Well I didn't - I quoted someone in this thread.

Netto
Minmatar
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
NxT LeveL
Posted - 2005.09.12 17:02:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Saladin
Its amazing how the bandwagon references come from people far removed from the region in question.

VIRII lived in stain for 2 months so far without problems. We fought, we npc'd, we did agent missions. There were only 2 days out of those 2 months where SE camped us in contunously with ridiculous numbers. On the second day we undocked, still outnumbered, and forced them to flee. VIRII went to great pains to find fights in Stain, in many instances engaging superior numbers (2:3 odds against us was not unsual) and jumped in on camps on several occassions. We are called station huggers but the fact remains that we never played the undock/dock game the way our enemies did. When hostiles were hard to come by, sure we put up a few bubbles to see what fish we would catch. In fact what impressed me most with VIRII was the degree of specialization of its members and the way everyone was willing to think outside the box and take calculated risks. This was never a quality I have found in any of my enemies, who only know one trick: Outnumber them and then get them to aggro. The One-trick ponies know who they are.

Drilla and others can re-post old posts until they are blue in the face. Policy change is something everyone goes through, and for us we felt that finishing off SE remnants and getting the current objective done was more important than going back to a policy statement months ago and see what to do next. We never anticipated that so many SE corps would join SA. Our corporation will always do what its members feel is best at the current time, and we will not be held hostage by PR statements and policy delcarations that were issued for a different set of circumstances. If you want to find a policy to lock us in to, then I will say that what VIRII wants from EVE is the same as what everyone else wants: Fun.


Well, not like it means anything in the grand scheme of things but hell, I don't think you're "bandwagoners" or "flip-flopers". Even if you do gank my vigils doing runs from empire :P (Warning for the kiddies, just cause you make it past HED-GP, please watch local and don't jump into bubbles)

Politics change. Deals are brokered, objectives evolve, it's natural and necessary. Good luck to all of Virii, see you in a bubble near you.

Netto

Marcus Grisbius
Gallente
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2005.09.12 17:05:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: EB Xile
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Bandwagons 4tw.


Bandwagons? We were killing SE before it became cool. We are not aligned with [5] in any form, if we see them, we shoot them. Now, the politics that led to our alignment with SA is entirely different. As our objective was: Destroy Stain Empire. Now, we are stuck in an odd situation. We were Allied with SA before [5]'s declaration of support who up to that time had been backing SE.
Now, here comes the tricky part for the rest of you folks. We decided to KEEP our alignment and finish off SE, because we are men of our word. Because [5] is a bunch of nap-a-holics doesnt mean we should change our stance toward SA. Our policy is proactive and reactive, not stagnent.

oh, btw there is no bandwagon...


But I thought that was the reason you guys started shooting SE... hmm... gotta love the politics of convenience. Basically, it had nothing to do with [.5.]. It had to do with SE being much easier targets.

Most people don't really care what the reason is that you decide to shoot someone as long as your honest. But they do notice and remember when you make something up and don't follow through with it. All in all though, I don't think this announcement really changes anything for SE though. VIRII have been shooting at them for a while now.

Nuclear Option
Amarr
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.09.12 17:21:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: EB Xile
an odd situation. We were Allied with SA before [5]'s declaration of support who up to that time had been backing SE.

Um, no

Originally by: EB Xile

Now, here comes the tricky part for the rest of you folks. We decided to KEEP our alignment and finish off SE, because we are men of our word.


ROFLMAO, yes YOU finished them off!

Originally by: EB Xile
Because [5] is a bunch of nap-a-holics doesnt mean we should change our stance toward SA.


How many NAP's you got?
SA
Whats left of XF
Whats left of Foundation
Whats left of RA

Seems there is a re-occuring theme


Originally by: EB Xile

Our policy is proactive and reactive, not stagnent.

oh, btw there is no bandwagon...


gobledy****

You corp is nothing but one of 1000 other poinless gank corps. You continue to play pre-exodus eve and you will contiune to be left to the sands of time.

zergrush keke
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.09.12 17:25:00 - [59]
 



LOL so when the real SA pvp'ers take over the SE carebears virii push the nap button.LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

Saladin
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2005.09.12 17:53:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Saladin on 12/09/2005 17:55:38
Originally by: zergrush keke


LOL so when the real SA pvp'ers take over the SE carebears virii push the nap button.LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing


Actually we were the ones approached with the idea, we did not suggest it. The SA corps recognized VIRII's position as one of the main powerbrokers in the area and given past relations between MASS and VIRII, it was natural that we were approached and accepted the offer. VIRII looks forward to working with SA corporations to develop PvP oppurtunities and we are certain that this cooperation will be fruitful and will bring peace and harmony to Stain.





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