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Darko1107
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2005.09.09 11:20:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: fisho
TBH IRON are very much like IMP. Without G they would crumble in a month.


TBH Your very much like Anue Angellus.

Clueless.

Nira
Gallente
White Coats inc.
Posted - 2005.09.09 11:21:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: fisho
TBH IRON are very much like IMP. Without G they would crumble in a month.


TBH Your very much like Anue Angellus.

Clueless.


OMG i'm on the same wavelengh as 'teh' darko

fisho
Caldari
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2005.09.09 11:21:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: fisho
TBH IRON are very much like IMP. Without G they would crumble in a month.


TBH Your very much like Anue Angellus.

Clueless.


I take that as a compliment.

Juan Andalusian
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.09.09 11:34:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: fisho
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: fisho
TBH IRON are very much like IMP. Without G they would crumble in a month.


TBH Your very much like Anue Angellus.

Clueless.


I take that as a compliment.


Fisho you silly monkey you've blown your cover.

CLEISTHENES2
Minmatar
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2005.09.09 11:37:00 - [125]
 

GL G/IRON

See you guys in space....

Fuffel
Gallente
Cataclysm Enterprises
Posted - 2005.09.09 11:52:00 - [126]
 

Edited by: Fuffel on 09/09/2005 11:53:15
Originally by: Blacklight

I'll convo one of you about finalising our NAP later today Razz




just make sure that the region we talked about is evacuated by then Cool

oh, and I am concernd with the shape of this board if even such a simple message needs to be discussed for 4 long pages.

maybe re-read the fist post as its rather easy to understand?

Demarcus
Caldari
Killjoy.
Posted - 2005.09.09 11:59:00 - [127]
 

Originally by: fisho
TBH IRON are very much like IMP. Without G they would crumble in a month.

Looks like someone hit thier head falling off the short bus.

EvilSyKOSkitzo
Caldari
Durus Scelus
Posted - 2005.09.09 11:59:00 - [128]
 

Hmm.. cool,

As someone else has said this move will help with standings management a little.

Ran out of room a few days ago.. Confused
- Evil




boogie ace
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2005.09.09 15:49:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Stormfront
So this is different from what was before?

Just wondering is all.

You won't shoot them, will continue to protect the North, but will set them to 0.0

Why not keep them blue and not shoot them, sounds about the same to me.


WHat a BORING IDEA - Go back to sleep - i dont even know why the idea of NAP with BOB exists lol never happen.

Hopefully the north will have more targets at last YARRRR!! YARRRR!! YARRRR!!

Imran
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.09.09 16:18:00 - [130]
 

fkn pirates.

Maretha Thei
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2005.09.09 17:31:00 - [131]
 

Edited by: Maretha Thei on 09/09/2005 17:47:38
Edited by: Maretha Thei on 09/09/2005 17:47:09
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: KOTH Fluf
Its sad to see these two alliances turn their backs on the north just when things were starting to come together. Oh well.

I would be interested to hear the reasons for this change in standings, as all the alliances in the north have common enemies in the south.


Turn thier back on the north? Yeh right, anything major that has come to the north has always been met in full force by IRON/G, infact saving the north. We have turned our back on the other alliances... maybe, but not on the north, because we are still in it, and quite frankly, we are pretty much the only ones, with our deklien friends, that protect it.


As much i hate to say this, but you fell to the EGO game the south (or should i say BoB?) always plays. Divide and Conquer is their strategy, and it still seems to be working.

Maybe you havent noticed, but those guys always pick a few organizations from their enemies, and start to talk bout them highly, fueling the always present PvPer EGO to the point, where even you start to believe, that you are the only one fighting.

- Insulting G by calling them (and IMP) GIMP for example, suggesting that neither of the two are in fact sovereign.
- Using every opportunity to congratulate G, while always pointing out how THEY ONLY carry the whole north on their backs.

They are really subtle in their ways, and improved them to perfection, so i can understand that eventually it worked. If you repeat the same lie long enough, even you'll start to believe it.

Despite what the 'south' says, its not only G / IRON fighting. Maybe you got the biggest blobs atm, but saying that you are the only ones on the line is simply not right. Especially unrespectful to those others, who were fighting on your side when you needed them.

Other than that the funniest part is, that
- you either continue fighting the south, and achieved nothing else than to get some false compliments from your enemy for your 'right step' towards a bigger EGO / cause some unrest up in the north, or
- you ally yourself (or get neutral at least) with the south, which would rather be a sign of weakness than strength. Honestly, i doubt you would ever do that.

The only real use of your post is to send a message to the other organizations in the north, that an even greater coordination / action is required from their part. Maybe that was your intention from the start. In that case, it definitely worked.

Anyway, i expect to see you back as my allies soon, as we are all FIGHTING (yes, we are fighting) for the same cause.

I'm obviously an ALT of a character from the north, posting this way to avoid misinterpreting my post as anything official from anyone from the north. It is just what it looks to be. The opinion from someone actually FIGHTING THE SOUTH.

Until then, good luck and make sure to have fun.

oidalia
Minmatar
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.09.09 17:49:00 - [132]
 

current eve alliances have too many NAPs and alliances so this is a step in the right direction and i hope others follow this example, cause this game shouldnt be about north vs south or west vs east, it should be about alliance vs alliance.
This way we also prevent ourselfs from getting bored by uber mass alliance blobs which just crash the servers.
The game itself is simply not ready for single wars which include thousands of players so its better to keep the alliances politics on a smaller scale and worry more about our neighbours then alliances which are 100 jumps away.

Veronica Corningstone
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2005.09.09 17:51:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Maretha Thei
Edited by: Maretha Thei on 09/09/2005 17:47:38
Edited by: Maretha Thei on 09/09/2005 17:47:09
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: KOTH Fluf
Its sad to see these two alliances turn their backs on the north just when things were starting to come together. Oh well.

I would be interested to hear the reasons for this change in standings, as all the alliances in the north have common enemies in the south.


Turn thier back on the north? Yeh right, anything major that has come to the north has always been met in full force by IRON/G, infact saving the north. We have turned our back on the other alliances... maybe, but not on the north, because we are still in it, and quite frankly, we are pretty much the only ones, with our deklien friends, that protect it.


As much i hate to say this, but you fell to the EGO game the south (or should i say BoB?) always plays. Divide and Conquer is their strategy, and it still seems to be working.

Maybe you havent noticed, but those guys always pick a few organizations from their enemies, and start to talk bout them highly, fueling the always present PvPer EGO to the point, where even you start to believe, that you are the only one fighting.

- Insulting G by calling them (and IMP) GIMP for example, suggesting that neither of the two are in fact sovereign.
- Using every opportunity to congratulate G, while always pointing out how THEY ONLY carry the whole north on their backs.

They are really subtle in their ways, and improved them to perfection, so i can understand that eventually it worked. If you repeat the same lie long enough, even you'll start to believe it.

Despite what the 'south' says, its not only G / IRON fighting. Maybe you got the biggest blobs atm, but saying that you are the only ones on the line is simply not right. Especially unrespectful to those others, who were fighting on your side when you needed them.

Other than that the funniest part is, that
- you either continue fighting the south, and achieved nothing else than to get some false compliments from your enemy for your 'right step' towards a bigger EGO / cause some unrest up in the north, or
- you ally yourself (or get neutral at least) with the south, which would rather be a sign of weakness than strength. Honestly, i doubt you would ever do that.

The only real use of your post is to send a message to the other organizations in the north, that an even greater coordination / action is required from their part. Maybe that was your intention from the start. In that case, it definitely worked.

Anyway, i expect to see you back as my allies soon, as we are all FIGHTING (yes, we are fighting) for the same cause.

I'm obviously an ALT of a character from the north, posting this way to avoid misinterpreting my post as anything official from anyone from the north. It is just what it looks to be. The opinion from someone actually FIGHTING THE SOUTH.

Until then, good luck and make sure to have fun.


We don't fight we mine.

Dianabolic
Gallente
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2005.09.09 17:58:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: oidalia
current eve alliances have too many NAPs and alliances so this is a step in the right direction and i hope others follow this example, cause this game shouldnt be about north vs south or west vs east, it should be about alliance vs alliance.
This way we also prevent ourselfs from getting bored by uber mass alliance blobs which just crash the servers.
The game itself is simply not ready for single wars which include thousands of players so its better to keep the alliances politics on a smaller scale and worry more about our neighbours then alliances which are 100 jumps away.


Well said.

Maretha Thei
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2005.09.09 17:59:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: oidalia
current eve alliances have too many NAPs and alliances so this is a step in the right direction and i hope others follow this example, cause this game shouldnt be about north vs south or west vs east, it should be about alliance vs alliance.
This way we also prevent ourselfs from getting bored by uber mass alliance blobs which just crash the servers.
The game itself is simply not ready for single wars which include thousands of players so its better to keep the alliances politics on a smaller scale and worry more about our neighbours then alliances which are 100 jumps away.


I find the idea of a big north vs south war nice. Fighting = FUN. Fighting on that scale means a lot of fun. You just have to avoid blobbin up to 2-300 people, but you do not have to just because it is north vs south.

Sure it would be nice to see epic fights featuring 100s of people, but servers are not capable of delivering that.

Sure for the conquerors, it is nice to have smaller factions fighting between themselves. If you are looking for stability however, you must ally yourself, to provide one big opponent for the conquerors, they are afraid to attack.

Which one is better? Fighting or stability? Well.. both: having a stabile homeland, and going on the offensive somewhere else ;)

Uggs386
Caldari
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.09.09 18:03:00 - [136]
 

Fecking alt veronica is me I dont post on alts I'm not afraid to say anything to the eve community no matter how stupid it is.

Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Rule One
Posted - 2005.09.09 18:09:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: oidalia
current eve alliances have too many NAPs and alliances so this is a step in the right direction and i hope others follow this example, cause this game shouldnt be about north vs south or west vs east, it should be about alliance vs alliance.
This way we also prevent ourselfs from getting bored by uber mass alliance blobs which just crash the servers.
The game itself is simply not ready for single wars which include thousands of players so its better to keep the alliances politics on a smaller scale and worry more about our neighbours then alliances which are 100 jumps away.


Not sure about the relevance of the server issues since most corporation vs corporation wars are enough to stress the servers. Alliance vs Alliance almost guarentees it.

Darko1107
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2005.09.09 18:30:00 - [138]
 

Please, maretha, think we made this decision cos of BoB is off the stupidity scale. You might be "fighting" but the FACT is you aint making a differece at all, your probly giving the enemy more confidence more than anything.

We wont be allies again soon, dont fall into a false sense of security, until you buck your ideas up and become alot better, we wont be allies, and, well, that aint guna happen anytime soon.

And no, the north Vrs south isnt nice, cos you have to take a 400 man blob down or up to actaully do anything, unless its just small gank fleets. 50 Jumps to attack your enemy, not really fun at all, we still have the same mutual standings to our enemies, so in effect its still north vrs south, and since when have PA/NBSI/F-E joined G/IRON gangs, or even coordinated with 1.

Only thing thats changed is now IMP cant mouth off about how uber they are doing because of G's pressence in OR and completely forget to mention or even thank G for it. And PA/NBSI/F-E dont have a safety net to fall back on. The rest is all symbolic.

But anyway, fun fun fun Very Happy

Grimster
Minmatar
Reikoku
Posted - 2005.09.09 18:43:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Richard Dawkins
Originally by: Grimster

I refer to my previous post - although not aimed at you, it's kinda pointed in the same direction.

None of your business.

In other news - G and IRON reset standings y'know.



It's posted on a public forum. Ergo, it is my business.


LOL - how mistaken you are, to think that spinelessly coming here with your alt and demanding an answer will get what you want?

So naive it's almost cute..

Rod Blaine
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.09.09 18:58:00 - [140]
 

By the powers vested in me by SirMolle, I hereby declare Buddrow and cmd Woodlouse to be man and wife.

Will the NBSI altarboys please bring forward the rings ?

Oh, and no, you don't get to object against this marriage Aneu, you only get to be silent forever.

Now, someone go figure out who'se the man in that household plz. We need to know whom to send the bill for the c4ke

Imran
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.09.09 19:16:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Rod Blaine
By the powers vested in me by SirMolle, I hereby declare Buddrow and cmd Woodlouse to be man and wife.

Will the NBSI altarboys please bring forward the rings ?

Oh, and no, you don't get to object against this marriage Aneu, you only get to be silent forever.

Now, someone go figure out who'se the man in that household plz. We need to know whom to send the bill for the c4ke


I wanna be the flower girl!!!!EmbarassedEmbarassedEmbarassedEmbarassed

er boy :o

csebal
Caldari
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
Posted - 2005.09.09 19:49:00 - [142]
 

If we are unable to stand on our own, agains even BoB then we do not deserve to be an alliance anyway, in that we should not need any allies.

Nuff said.

I'll fight them, as i did for the bigger part of the year basically non-stop. Whether you join or not, its your decision. I do not expect anyone to fight my fights for me.

Alliance politics is not my desk either, so do what you think is best for you, i'm sure i'll do the same.

GL in the future.

Hllaxiu
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2005.09.09 20:16:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Darko1107
we still have the same mutual standings to our enemies, so in effect its still north vrs south,


Actions speak louder than words, remember that.

Nuclear Option
Amarr
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.09.09 20:32:00 - [144]
 

Edited by: Nuclear Option on 09/09/2005 20:34:12
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Darko1107
we still have the same mutual standings to our enemies, so in effect its still north vrs south,


Actions speak louder than words, remember that.


LOL, exactly!

You and your IMP buddies talk whilest we are acting.

It comes as no suprise to me that votf is a dead corp. That is what happens when you got those types of players that join for one person, not a culture. Last I looked Voft is down 30 members in a week or so.

In regards to PA, they are kicking crap out of Guristas! How dare anyone say they arent fighting! All one needs to do is look at atuks kills and you'll see guristas are near the top of the kill list. Which means they got a lot of ppl up there that would rather npc than fight them off. I know I am glad we arent allied to them anymore. In fact, I plan to go shoot 'em up this weekend.Wink

Darken Two
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2005.09.09 20:45:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/09/2005 08:27:16
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Mortuus
Good job G and IRON.

PA needs a good cleansing again....

Time to purge.

"Not the views of my corp or alliance"


So you can fill it with more 20-30 man corps ? hehe


Yes thats important because obviously you're in a 500 man corp. What a troll.


Sun is not in ATUK, he is in ATUF. Only a 6 man corp or something D2.


Bring it on Giron, let's see what you got.

dbp


Hehe I know DBp. RKK were a 45 man corp at the beginning of the GNW. Didnt stop you did it. Quality always better than quantity.

And BTW,I dont remember IROn or G coming to help FE in any way shape or form. Unless you want to count the XELAS thing, but then again almost everyon got involved in that.

Ramireza
Caldari
Evoke.
Ev0ke
Posted - 2005.09.09 21:28:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Darken Two


And BTW,I dont remember IROn or G coming to help FE in any way shape or form. Unless you want to count the XELAS thing, but then again almost everyon got involved in that.


Well, Paragon Syndicate ?

They tried to invade your space and G AND IRON helped you.

Buddrow
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2005.09.09 21:32:00 - [147]
 

Edited by: Buddrow on 09/09/2005 21:33:44
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/09/2005 08:27:16
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Mortuus
Good job G and IRON.

PA needs a good cleansing again....

Time to purge.

"Not the views of my corp or alliance"


So you can fill it with more 20-30 man corps ? hehe


Yes thats important because obviously you're in a 500 man corp. What a troll.


Sun is not in ATUK, he is in ATUF. Only a 6 man corp or something D2.


Bring it on Giron, let's see what you got.

dbp


Hehe I know DBp. RKK were a 45 man corp at the beginning of the GNW. Didnt stop you did it. Quality always better than quantity.

And BTW,I dont remember IROn or G coming to help FE in any way shape or form. Unless you want to count the XELAS thing, but then again almost everyon got involved in that.


cause we always stop the fleets far before they get to your space. the last time you had a serious invasion was when.... oh yes when we kicked the **** out of the previous alliance that used to reside there.Idea

you knew that no matter what you could of called on us and we would of came, if you try to dispute that your merly lying to yourself.

crazy huh

Einheriar Ulrich
Minmatar
Vengeance of the Fallen
Syndicate.
Posted - 2005.09.09 21:45:00 - [148]
 

Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 09/09/2005 21:46:48
Originally by: Nuclear Option
Edited by: Nuclear Option on 09/09/2005 20:34:12
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Darko1107
we still have the same mutual standings to our enemies, so in effect its still north vrs south,


Actions speak louder than words, remember that.


LOL, exactly!

You and your IMP buddies talk whilest we are acting.

It comes as no suprise to me that votf is a dead corp. That is what happens when you got those types of players that join for one person, not a culture. Last I looked Voft is down 30 members in a week or so.

In regards to PA, they are kicking crap out of Guristas! How dare anyone say they arent fighting! All one needs to do is look at atuks kills and you'll see guristas are near the top of the kill list. Which means they got a lot of ppl up there that would rather npc than fight them off. I know I am glad we arent allied to them anymore. In fact, I plan to go shoot 'em up this weekend.Wink


Yeah your right about one thing, VOTF has seemed a bit slow lately. But you must also understand, that most of us have been togteher in this game for a long time, and if something affects one, it also affects your gaming buddy. what you fail to regocnize however, that most of us have other acounts with others chars that have been used, one way or another. You currently fail to understand the core of VOTF, this is how things go, dont worry we are still here, and able and ready Wink

Elenia Kheynes
Caldari
Avatars of Doom
Apocalyptica.
Posted - 2005.09.09 22:18:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/09/2005 08:27:16
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Mortuus
Good job G and IRON.

PA needs a good cleansing again....

Time to purge.

"Not the views of my corp or alliance"


So you can fill it with more 20-30 man corps ? hehe


Yes thats important because obviously you're in a 500 man corp. What a troll.


Sun is not in ATUK, he is in ATUF. Only a 6 man corp or something D2.


Bring it on Giron, let's see what you got.

dbp


Hehe I know DBp. RKK were a 45 man corp at the beginning of the GNW. Didnt stop you did it. Quality always better than quantity.



Aye, quality was much better when RKK had 45 members and dbp was podding Fluffle at each mission Razz

Azeroth Uluntil
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.09.10 01:01:00 - [150]
 

Edited by: Azeroth Uluntil on 10/09/2005 01:02:41
Originally by: Uggs386
Fecking alt veronica is me I dont post on alts I'm not afraid to say anything to the eve community no matter how stupid it is.


We've definately noticed the latter part of that statement...


Anyhow... probably most of this was due to the uselessness of certain corps and alliances, which shall remain nameless, that was noticed. Maybe now they will stop being lazy and actually do something.


And by the way, Draken, you might want to take some eve history lessons...


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