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CCP kieron

Posted - 2005.08.29 17:01:00 - [1]
 

The patch scheduled for deployment tomorrow, 30 August has been delayed. The QA department determined that since the international language support & EVEmail changes have not been verified, in addition to the recent spate of node deaths & server stability issues, the patch cannot be deployed in its current state.

The tentative deployment date is now next Tuesday, 6 September. We apologize for yet another patch delay, but would rather deploy a stable patch than introduce bugs. As before, any additions or changes to the Patch Notes between now and deployment will be made in italics. The existing italics will be changed to normal text.

Reksal Holiau
Minmatar
The Money Consortium
Posted - 2005.08.29 17:05:00 - [2]
 

First to post.

But we support you .. good luck!

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2005.08.29 17:33:00 - [3]
 

Looking forward to patch day Smile

Basileus
Posted - 2005.08.29 17:39:00 - [4]
 

EVEmail changes? The ability to delete corp mails will be added? Yessssss... Twisted EvilTwisted Evil

Darmed Khan
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2005.08.29 17:55:00 - [5]
 

That list of fixes is looking pretty tasty Cool

*runs off to look for stuff they've missed*

mirel yirrin
Gallente
Ore Mongers
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2005.08.29 18:49:00 - [6]
 

They said that the Groups and stuff had been added? Does that mean we can look at the info on the market, or just that they are in the game?

I hope they let the ppl on the test server play with them before they release them, so we don't have another stealth bomber incident.LaughingLaughing

Diss Champ
Amarr
VentureCorp
Posted - 2005.08.29 18:49:00 - [7]
 

Hopefully this will give them time to fix the reprocess standings bug.

Other than that (major) annoyance, the list looks good.

Sveldt
Posted - 2005.08.29 19:07:00 - [8]
 

I feel like I'm doing this in the wrong thread, but... is logging off in a complex being considered? It'd solve a few farming problems if we were to log back in at the gate.

Zaldiri
Caldari
Automated Industries
Posted - 2005.08.29 20:03:00 - [9]
 

Was realy looking foawrds to this patch...

Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Rule One
Posted - 2005.08.29 20:49:00 - [10]
 

I hope the node drop issue gets fixed quickly; it's getting annoying.

Curiously enough, it happens in the first 5 minutes of logging in but once I make it through the 5 minute barrier, it's good.

Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
Posted - 2005.08.29 21:00:00 - [11]
 

So does this mean the gang assist modules will get fixed so they work, or do we have to wait until the patch after this next one?

Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Rule One
Posted - 2005.08.29 21:34:00 - [12]
 

WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE IS TO STOP SHIPS AND ITEMS SHARING THE SAME WINDOW SIZE!!!!!

Hanns
The Second Sons
Posted - 2005.08.29 21:42:00 - [13]
 

We as eve players have grown pretty patient over the years, take your time and make it right, were not going anywhere Cool

F'nog
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2005.08.29 22:58:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Sveldt
I feel like I'm doing this in the wrong thread, but... is logging off in a complex being considered? It'd solve a few farming problems if we were to log back in at the gate.


I believe that was fixed in the CW patch. If you log off for longer than 2 minutes in a complex now, you will warp back to the gate when you log in.

Dakath
Posted - 2005.08.29 23:24:00 - [15]
 

I applaud this delay.

I would rather have the patch right than have it now.

sonofollo
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.08.29 23:28:00 - [16]
 

well its good that they are delaying to get it right - im guessing small server side hotfixes are applied daily anyway where issues arise.

With this delayed patch can we expect a quick one towards end of septemebr as well with some new content additions

Mind
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2005.08.30 05:45:00 - [17]
 

this is so not fun realy. Sure its good that they "test" stuff, but i remember you telling all of us several times that CCP where going to release SMALL patches OFTEN.

this is the 4th patch in a row that is bigg as a house, and will prolly screw up more things that it fix.

That just my experience, last patching was OK but still that was a tad to big a patch with to many variables. small and often. Then you can revert easier and se what did go wrong.

JP Beauregard
Gallente
Pilkington Communications
Posted - 2005.08.30 06:04:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: JP Beauregard on 30/08/2005 16:54:35

What Hans calls patience, I would call numbness.

This is now the second delay for a patch to fix some rather annoying and totally unnecessary bugs with some dysfuctional but still heavily advertised CW content.

And if past patches are anything to go by, this patch too will wreak a ludicrous amunt of havoc on random aspects of the game presumably unaffected by the patch itself.

Bottom line: another delay is as useless as the first or second. No amount of hapless futzing around will improve this patch or avert the failure we all (should) expect. Spending more time on "testing" will simply delay the inevitable for no good reason.

Hit us already and be done with it.

Derron Bel
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2005.08.30 06:33:00 - [19]
 

Quote:


This is now the second delay for a patch to fix some rather annoying and totally unnecessary bugs with some dysfuctional but still the heavily advertised CW content.

And if past patches are anything to go by, this patch too will wreak a ludicrous amunt of havoc on random aspects of the game presumably unaffected by the patch itself.




Hello contradiction. They're delaying the patch partially to make sure it doesn't cause the same problems that hte last patch did.

Mind
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2005.08.30 06:46:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Mind on 30/08/2005 06:46:43
Originally by: Derron Bel
Quote:


This is now the second delay for a patch to fix some rather annoying and totally unnecessary bugs with some dysfuctional but still the heavily advertised CW content.

And if past patches are anything to go by, this patch too will wreak a ludicrous amunt of havoc on random aspects of the game presumably unaffected by the patch itself.




Hello contradiction. They're delaying the patch partially to make sure it doesn't cause the same problems that hte last patch did.


And you didnt read his post did you? the patch will break 200 things (let me guess, the map this time) even if they test it for 2 years. Its impossible to test everything, perhaps the game will explode if i have Miranda and EVE running at the same time? Who knows, they dont. there is a Billion difrent variables to test and they will not be able to test but a few of them.

Im not going to be suprised when i go on the forums the day after the patch and there is 200 difrent buggs reported. And still we will have ships flying backwards (omg how did they miss THAT?)

Demon Johnson
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2005.08.30 07:43:00 - [21]
 

Sad, but OK.
OK, because it is right to wait and polish, sad because

"# A new command has been added for Drones called "return to drone bay." Drones will now leave whatever task they were performing, return to the owning ship and enter the drone bay."

was the Shocked thing i waited for so long. Hurray!
Very Happy

Vexor 4tw! Smile

sidthesexist
Caldari
Viper-Squad
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2005.08.30 07:50:00 - [22]
 

Is the alt enter bug likely to be fixed so we do not keep ctd'ing when changing screen size? and as far as the server a gallon of petrol and a match would be a good idea Evil or Very Mad

Chai N'Dorr
Selectus Pravus Lupus
Posted - 2005.08.30 08:07:00 - [23]
 

Hmm, better switch that long skill training 'just in case' back then and safe it for next week Wink

sonofollo
Caldari
Doomheim
Posted - 2005.08.30 12:42:00 - [24]
 

no amount of software fixes will help CCP end faulty old server technology that cant cope with increasing load - solution upgrade the tech behind eve.

Hardware not software.

Darius Shakor
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2005.08.30 13:43:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: sonofollo
no amount of software fixes will help CCP end faulty old server technology that cant cope with increasing load - solution upgrade the tech behind eve.

Hardware not software.


This was recently done within the last year you know. It's not like getting a new graphics card and an extra 512mb of ram and sticking it in your desktop pc once every year or so, it costs a heck of a lot more and leads to more downtime and organisation. It took CCP two monts last time to get it all sorted before they even started pulling cables and plugging in new bits.

And how efficiently your software runs on the hardware is as much to do with it all in the grand scheme of things as simply adding more servers. Ever played Halo on the PC? Good graphics.... except there were many games to match it that ran smoother because Halo was a process/RAM hog while the others were more efficient.

Anyway, that said, CCP take your time. Good things come to those who wait, half arsed things come to those who rush.Very Happy

Jaabaa Prime
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2005.08.30 14:58:00 - [26]
 

Better late and working than now and bjorked.

Good move CCP.

WhiskeyDP
Gallente
The Druids
Green Robe Alliance
Posted - 2005.08.30 15:19:00 - [27]
 

yay!! then u have time to put in the advanced mass production skill and other related skills

fairimear
Gallente
The Sp00Ks
Posted - 2005.08.30 16:15:00 - [28]
 

w00t ccp 4tw i won 5off thisVery Happy

Ticondrius
United Federation Starfleet
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2005.08.30 16:53:00 - [29]
 

To those advocating a hardware upgrade over a software one:

Remember, there's one more element between the EVE server and the hardware itself....the OS. That said, last time I saw a thread about the technical aspects of the server, it runs Windows of some flavor (Datacenter?) with Microsoft SQL server. I don't think much more needs to be said about server stability here.

As for the patch...I've been around for a good while, I think it will fix 90% of what it says it will, but due to being an all bugfixing patch, will break far less than some of you seem to think. I don't expect many unexpected bugs to popup.

Rivek
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.08.30 16:56:00 - [30]
 

I agree with an earlier poster. We are not patient, we are numb. CCP you move soooo slowly. I've played eve for nearly two years and seen broken promise after broken promise and delay after delay after delay. Content introduced as the next big thing, delayed, then ultimately forgotten about. Paradigmatic shifts like POS being overhyped and ultimately disapointing. New and improved interface options like the drone changes made with exodus are what we might call in other games "barely passable" and "bare minimum".

You need better focus, less dreaming, and more doing. Release the easy stuff first. Where are the remaining t2 module bpos? Why cant you act on good ideas like t2 bpo auctions (only adding much needed ships and super popular modules bpos) within this freaking lifetime. Next year is not a good target date. Next month is much better.

In other words, why do we get the sense your all on vacation... all the time. You move at a snails pace, get going, light a fire under your ass, and turn EVE into what it COULD be. The best MMOG by far.


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