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Aeryn
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2003.07.24 14:00:00 - [1]
 

Does anyone have any idea which ECM modules to use against which pirates?

Do pirates use the same sensor systems that their associated empire uses?

Private Idaho
Amarr
Posted - 2003.07.24 14:16:00 - [2]
 

Here is a very good article on the very thing you are asking about.

Hope this helps...

http://www.eve-i.com/article.php?id=32

Jarjar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2003.07.24 14:48:00 - [3]
 

Check www.tti-nexus.com.
It seems that some, or possibly all 30k+ pirates has sensor strengths of 15... ALL TYPES.

Aeryn
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2003.07.24 15:04:00 - [4]
 

Urg. So much for trying to jam NPC pirates then Crying or Very sad

Mitchman
Omniscient Order
Posted - 2003.07.25 10:07:00 - [5]
 

Use 4 ECM Multispectrals (uses cap like there's no tomorrow, get a Scorpion to run them) or 3 of the specialized jammers that use far less cap and gives -6 per module to whichever race you decide to jam. Can be run on a blackbird or similar cruiser with 3 free med slots.

zoop
Posted - 2003.07.25 10:21:00 - [6]
 

im interested ecm warfare.
can a scorpion, if fitted correctly jam more then 1 ship at the same time?

j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2003.07.25 11:25:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: j0sephine on 25/07/2003 11:25:32

"Use 4 ECM Multispectrals (uses cap like there's no tomorrow, get a Scorpion to run them)"

Or perhaps just go with an extra ship, fit it with energy transfer module(s) to keep the capacitor of the jamming cruiser alive?..

DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
Posted - 2003.07.25 14:32:00 - [8]
 

you can get ecm of -15 in all types with a blackbird, but it might leave you with nothing in the medium slots but ecm modules

Mira Finoso
Gallente
Horror Business
Posted - 2003.07.25 16:04:00 - [9]
 

PvP: If ECM is working correctly, does it remove the other player's ability to choose "lock target" from the right-click context menu?

I was attacked last night by a clever high-security pirate Mad and I was not able to lock her at all. I couldn't even try. Is this how it is supposed to work? Confused

loci
Caldari
Posted - 2003.07.25 16:18:00 - [10]
 

"I was attacked last night by a clever high-security pirate and I was not able to lock her at all"

they probably used a 'sensor backup array'

Mira Finoso
Gallente
Horror Business
Posted - 2003.07.25 18:20:00 - [11]
 

Wouldn't a Backup Sensor Array be used as a defense to ECM jamming? Surprised

Dragon Emperor
Amarr
Dark Design
Posted - 2003.07.25 18:31:00 - [12]
 

but any backup array can't defend multiple jammer.....and if it's single pirate jamming you, you don't need worry too much any way, so I will give up backup array to dmg mod.

loci
Caldari
Posted - 2003.07.25 19:28:00 - [13]
 

yeah, sorry, misread your post...i thought it was you doing the jamming.

Mira Finoso
Gallente
Horror Business
Posted - 2003.07.25 20:21:00 - [14]
 

but... Does anyone know if jamming is supposed to remove the option to "Lock Target" from the context menu? I figured it would not work this way, but if anyone knows I would love confirmation.

Aegis Osiris
Gallente
Peanut Factory
Posted - 2003.07.25 20:59:00 - [15]
 

If you are being jammed, then yes, you won't be able to lock on to a target.

Mira Finoso
Gallente
Horror Business
Posted - 2003.07.25 21:46:00 - [16]
 

Ok... I would have expected the option to lock would still be there, but a message would appear saying that it's impossible because "you are being jammed" or something like that. Thanks. :)

loci
Caldari
Posted - 2003.07.25 23:45:00 - [17]
 

what was your distance when trying to lock?...
they could have been using a 'sensor damper' which reduces the range you can get a lock, you may have needed to get closer.

Morkt Drakt
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Posted - 2003.07.27 02:23:00 - [18]
 

NPC Pirates are set up to use all four types of grav/ma/radar/ladar targetting types.

This makes them essentially "unjammable" except using multi-spectrals.

Even then most of them are "jam proof" either through high points in each set or a block on them being jammed in anycase.

Having said that some NPC pirate types have "slipped through the net" during setup and weren't enabled with the "cheat" - thus they can be jammed.

These are very few and far between and, to be brutally honest, its a waste of time and effort and capacitor trying to jam them.

Sensor dampers, track-dampers, energy neutralisers etc etc - dont work either.

Shooting them and blowing them up is about it.

dalman
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2003.07.27 03:08:00 - [19]
 

As Morkt stated. All kinds of electronic warfare is USELESS when fighting NPCs. May it me pirates, navy or concord.

But in PvP, EW is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. Read the active thread about "sensor dampeners", where I've written some posts.

Mitchman
Omniscient Order
Posted - 2003.07.28 14:54:00 - [20]
 

If you read carefully what Morkt wrote, he said that ECM Multispectrals work on NPC pirates, and I can confirm that. All other jamming devices are useless, though.


 

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