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Antirox
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:38:00 - [1]
 

I was thinking about what real usage does employment history of a char has?

I mean - everyone just checks that to see how long is sum1 playing before choosing battle. Maybe if dates were taken out of emloyment history ppl would fight old players more offten. =)

What do u thing? do we need dates in employment history? would that be good to take em out?

Rana Ash
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:41:00 - [2]
 

I used the dates, when i recruited people. To see how long the person in question had served with the corps before. It shows how dedicated someone is, IE i would'nt seriously consider anyone that had been in lots of corps just a few months..

Bhaal
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:42:00 - [3]
 

There is no reason to remove the dates...

Age of char & total SP does not delineate the PvP prowess of said character anyways...

Hague Starcatcher
OffBeat Creations
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:43:00 - [4]
 

No, employment dates give information on a person just like a resume. Tells you alot about a perspective corp member.

And I like to know how old my opponent is thank you.

Theodorius
Aliastra
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:44:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Bhaal

Age of char & total SP does not delineate the PvP prowess of said character anyways...


Exactly, but ppl offten just click, check emp history, oops, 2k3 player.. warp to ss. ;(

Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:52:00 - [6]
 

There are some players out there that dont have a employment history.

The fact that they have been with the same corp and never left it, is all we can figure out. That and being one of the Beta testers maybe.




Antirox
Posted - 2005.08.02 16:58:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Hague Starcatcher
No, employment dates give information on a person just like a resume. Tells you alot about a perspective corp member.

well, have u ever tryed talking to members u recruit? doing some sort of interview? that gives u a lot more info about person.

Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.08.02 17:01:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Antirox
well, have u ever tryed talking to members u recruit? doing some sort of interview? that gives u a lot more info about person.

The more information you have when interviewing prospective people the better. You can ask questions like "Hey, you only worked for <corpname> for like two days. What happened there?"

Miri Tirzan
Caldari
Clan Korval
Posted - 2005.08.02 17:21:00 - [9]
 

I always look when I am dealing with someone. It helps to see if they are a possible alt for a scam or if they were last in pirate corps. So yeah, being able to see the history of some one is important if your going to deal with them.

Quanteeri
Salty Seaman
Posted - 2005.08.02 20:10:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Quanteeri on 02/08/2005 20:10:31
Originally by: Antirox
Originally by: Hague Starcatcher
No, employment dates give information on a person just like a resume. Tells you alot about a perspective corp member.

well, have u ever tryed talking to members u recruit? doing some sort of interview? that gives u a lot more info about person.


You're quite trusting. That can be very dangerous to ones person and corp in this game.

CONDIN
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2005.08.02 20:32:00 - [11]
 

The dates for use of the amount of time someones has spent in a corp to show loyality is bull.
I m not staying in a corp that lied to get me in or treats me bad to show loyality in my employment hx. REMEMBER PROBATION WORKS BOTH WAYS.

Ardor
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
A.R.K.
Posted - 2005.08.02 22:16:00 - [12]
 

I think the employment list is a very usefull tool. I would never recruit a pilot who once was in X or Y corporation or who changed corporations like every 2 weeks in the past.

I do believe there is some kind of 'mechanism' which deletes former corporations in your employment list. I think it's something like 'if you've been for more then 1 year in your current corp then your previous registrations get deleted' (or are no longer visible).

Three (including myself) of 5 members of my corp only have the Bruderschaft in their employment list which is a sign of loyality and wise and carefully choices from my point of view.

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2005.08.02 22:27:00 - [13]
 

Turncoats should be branded. Twisted Evil

Ibobah'k Chisaraj
Posted - 2005.08.02 22:44:00 - [14]
 

Well, perhaps rl analogies are out o fline generally but I cant help drawing paralells yet.

Does ppl walk around with thei r CV's and emplyiment records taped to their backs?Shocked

It should be information you chose to hand out when applying to a corp or such, not for each and everyones scruitiny.

MaiLina KaTar
Posted - 2005.08.02 23:03:00 - [15]
 

Yeah... protection of privacy 4tw... or something...

ahhh forget it the logs are funny.

I enjoy info-ing people to see that they're cheap little corphoppers.


Xachariah
Minmatar
Starship Fellows
Slammer's Republic
Posted - 2005.08.02 23:44:00 - [16]
 

We had a small corp-theft.
The fact that said person had to leave some corps in a short time helps us to prove our point when we contact new employers of his.

Titen
Posted - 2005.08.03 01:43:00 - [17]
 

I'm thinking the employment history information should be displayed based on the skill of the viewer.

Who is most interested in exactly 'how long' and 'who' a pilot worked for anyway? A recruiting officer, director, CEO type charactor - that's who.

So the ability to view prior employment history should (could) be limited based on some Leadership skill.

I mean, realistically, if you're flying around in space and come across another ship.. you can see the ship.. you can view the info to find the base stats of the ship.. but how can you possibly look at a ship and see the history of the pilot?

Do we all have some kind of beacons in our heads that emit FTL frequencies so that everyone in the universe can see our resume' with a few clicks of a mouse?

If I had that in my head I'd be seeing a doctor to have it removed :P

If I'm out flying in 0.0, I'd prefer that potential ganker NOT know that I've only been playing the game for a month.. or two months. Or, if I were the potential ganker, I wouldn't want people to see that I've been a pilot for over 2 years.

Since a choice can be made 'to gank or not to gank' based on the percieved skills of a target, which is based on the employment/game history of that target, then it is making it far too easy to pick and choose who you shoot at.

Wanna be a pirate? By all means, please do, it's part of the game. But when there is a method by which a potential pirate act can be 'picked'.. to only go after people percieved as weak and/or vulnerable based on their employment history record.. that is giving TOO MUCH information to someone.

Want to be a good pirate? Train "Resume Reading" to level 5 so you can see all the details.. but make sure that "Resume Reading" also has some corp based leadership skills to level 5 as a prenup.

Resume Reading Level 1 - Lets you see the last 2 months of a pilots employment history

Resume Reading Level 2 - Lets you see the last 4 months

Level 3 - 6 months

Level 4 - 1 year

Level 5 - All of a pilots history.

Without the skill at all, all you can see is the pilots current Corp - with no information regarding how long they've been in it.

Makes sense to me... but that probably means it doesn't make sense to anyone else hehe.

Just a thought

F'nog
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2005.08.03 02:46:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Antirox
Originally by: Hague Starcatcher
No, employment dates give information on a person just like a resume. Tells you alot about a perspective corp member.

well, have u ever tryed talking to members u recruit? doing some sort of interview? that gives u a lot more info about person.


Yes, because people never lie about their backgrounds and previous actions.

Amaron Ghant
Caldari
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2005.08.03 04:13:00 - [19]
 

Your employment history is your CV to a potential recruiter. I know that we wont recruit anyone with a "dodgy" employment history that they canīt explain to our satisfaction.

Saying that, yes people do click info when they see a character warp in, and yes they do warp away if they donīt like what they see, so how about this....Keep employment history hidden, but when you wish to join a Corp, your history is sent as part of your application to the corp ceo.

The only Information visible to everyone should be your current Corp.


Layrex
Caldari
Posted - 2005.08.03 04:49:00 - [20]
 

They are too busy raping caldari to sort something as trivial as this.


 

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