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Drilla
Yet Another Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:31:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:36:35

I hate to be the bringer of bad news but so be it ....

The RIAA have moved against Warcraft movies made by players for using copyrighted music in the movies.

What will this mean for EVE videos? surely RIAA just found a new cashcow and ordinary people to annoy (which is their sole exsistence) - with the DMCA in their hand they are now moving against fanmade computer game movies.

Shocked

P.S. CCP themselves are hosting some infringing movies, please be advised as I'd hate for RIAA to have an actualy company to sue or threaten etc. Sad

(EDIT) Added link to the warcraft movie site closed by RIAA RPG Films


Tekka
Caldari
Sneaky Beaver
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:34:00 - [2]
 

RIAA is evil

Ikvar
A Blue Goat
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:38:00 - [3]
 

If it gets to the point where we can't use commercial music in EVE videos, I will personally sing for a soundtrack to every video made.

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:40:00 - [4]
 

Just have a Canadian host your movie. Canadian servers are out of the RIAA's reach.

Ander
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:42:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Drilla
Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:36:35

I hate to be the bringer of bad news but so be it ....

The RIAA have moved against Warcraft movies made by players for using copyrighted music in the movies.

What will this mean for EVE videos? surely RIAA just found a new cashcow and ordinary people to annoy (which is their sole exsistence) - with the DMCA in their hand they are now moving against fanmade computer game movies.

Shocked

P.S. CCP themselves are hosting some infringing movies, please be advised as I'd hate for RIAA to have an actualy company to sue or threaten etc. Sad

(EDIT) Added link to the warcraft movie site closed by RIAA RPG Films




I'm sorry to have to enlighten you.. but Iceland is not a state in the United States of RIAA^H^H^H^HAmerica.

It's a small island country in the northern sea.
As far as I know, the DMCA isn't valid in Europe.

Of course, there'll be other means of pusshing copyright legislation on people who make the movies. But I still want to clear this little misunderstanding about Iceland being a state in America.. *cough*

Drilla
Yet Another Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:42:00 - [6]
 

Actually all countries have RIAA clones who see RIAA as the über jerks.

So no - wont help unless it's proven by court that they have no case.

MAXSuicide
Core Impulse
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:43:00 - [7]
 

that...is complete *******s.......

Meridius
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:44:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Just have a Canadian host your movie. Canadian servers are out of the RIAA's reach.


Canada 4tw

Meridius
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:44:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Drilla
Actually all countries have RIAA clones who see RIAA as the über jerks.

So no - wont help unless it's proven by court that they have no case.



Argh, someone war dec RIAASad

Drilla
Yet Another Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:45:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:45:26

I know CCP is in Iceland, I know DMCA is an american law (I'm danish) BUT copyright infringement is a common law in most of the western world.

I'll bet you that there's an icelandic recording association and Iceland have copyright laws.

The only 'advantage' of the DMCA is that it's so broad they can call 'us' terrorists for using the movies - regardless of DMCA it's copyright ínfringements.

pardux
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:46:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Drilla
Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:45:26

I know CCP is in Iceland, I know DMCA is an american law (I'm danish) BUT copyright infringement is a common law in most of the western world.

I'll bet you that there's an icelandic recording association and Iceland have copyright laws.

The only 'advantage' of the DMCA is that it's so broad they can call 'us' terrorists for using the movies - regardless of DMCA it's copyright ínfringements.



there is one in iceland Mad

Ikvar
A Blue Goat
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:46:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Ikvar on 27/07/2005 21:46:49
That's true, I wonder where the EVE Files server is? Chribba, enlighten us!

Also, aren't CCPs servers in London? I heard once that at least the game servers are.

danneh
Amarr
V0LTA
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:51:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: pardux
Originally by: Drilla
Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:45:26

I know CCP is in Iceland, I know DMCA is an american law (I'm danish) BUT copyright infringement is a common law in most of the western world.

I'll bet you that there's an icelandic recording association and Iceland have copyright laws.

The only 'advantage' of the DMCA is that it's so broad they can call 'us' terrorists for using the movies - regardless of DMCA it's copyright ínfringements.



there is one in iceland Mad


heheheh Crying or Very sad

Risiru
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:53:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Risiru on 27/07/2005 21:53:08

Well it would be seriously stupid from the RIAA (well I guess that won't stop them :) because there are probably tons of people playing EVE who bought Nightwish CDs because of EVE Movies :D.

DJBoo
NEXUS CLOUD
Cursed Nemesis
Posted - 2005.07.27 21:53:00 - [15]
 

America = capitalist **** regime = Caldari/Gallente mix :)

Deathwing
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.27 22:06:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Just have a Canadian host your movie. Canadian servers are out of the RIAA's reach.


yea we pwn

OleMissFoo
Posted - 2005.07.27 22:13:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Just have a Canadian host your movie. Canadian servers are out of the RIAA's reach.


dont blame americans... it's not our fault Sad

Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.07.27 22:21:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Risiru
Well it would be seriously stupid from the RIAA (well I guess that won't stop them :) because there are probably tons of people playing EVE who bought Nightwish CDs because of EVE Movies :D.


I want a royalty check, damnit!!! Very Happy

joefishy
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.07.27 22:27:00 - [19]
 

****ing big corparate ****s trying to scam little ppl , id do what ikvar does if it comes to that and sing to every ****ing moovie and just change the wrods lol so the song isn the same as the origanal lol w00t

Turix
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2005.07.27 22:44:00 - [20]
 

RIAA and MPAA are corprate ass holes

Greedy ****s

They dont care bout the aritists for more than they need to make money.

There pushing the law as far as they can to the point of fraud.

KrogothZero
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
No Holes Barred
Posted - 2005.07.27 23:10:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Ikvar
Edited by: Ikvar on 27/07/2005 21:46:49
That's true, I wonder where the EVE Files server is? Chribba, enlighten us!

Also, aren't CCPs servers in London? I heard once that at least the game servers are.


static-213-115-157-54.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se = eve files so sweden :) which reminds me of
*snip* funny stuff.

That site isn't allowed to be linked on the eve forums, just for future reference. It contains illegal material. - Teblin


Drilla
Yet Another Mining Corp
Posted - 2005.07.27 23:49:00 - [22]
 

TPB doesn't host data only torrent files and as such is not in violation of swedish law.

Layrex
Caldari
Posted - 2005.07.28 02:20:00 - [23]
 

How can these bosses be so horrible and bored in their pointless company's existance, as to actually sue people for using music in videos people record of their games to show their friends. Evil or Very Mad

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2005.07.28 02:54:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 28/07/2005 03:00:00
Reason enough to promote the downlaoding of music methinks.

Edit:
*snip*
Quote:
Oh wait, just kidding. We haven't, since the site in question is fully
legal. Unlike certain other countries, such as the one you're in, we have
sane copyright laws here. But we also have polar bears roaming the
streets and attacking people :-(.

Laughing

infused
Posted - 2005.07.28 04:01:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Risiru
Edited by: Risiru on 27/07/2005 21:53:08

Well it would be seriously stupid from the RIAA (well I guess that won't stop them :) because there are probably tons of people playing EVE who bought Nightwish CDs because of EVE Movies :D.


Nightwish 4tw. I want them to produce music for eve. I rekon it would rock.

I heard about them before eve. I was going to make a video with nightwish music until i watched everyone elses with nightwish music :(


Serdarxxx
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2005.07.28 04:17:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Drilla
Edited by: Drilla on 27/07/2005 21:36:35

I hate to be the bringer of bad news but so be it ....

The RIAA have moved against Warcraft movies made by players for using copyrighted music in the movies.

What will this mean for EVE videos? surely RIAA just found a new cashcow and ordinary people to annoy (which is their sole exsistence) - with the DMCA in their hand they are now moving against fanmade computer game movies.

Shocked

oh my god i make a night mare come true.
BoB/5 - [G] vs. RIAA
LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing




P.S. CCP themselves are hosting some infringing movies, please be advised as I'd hate for RIAA to have an actualy company to sue or threaten etc. Sad

(EDIT) Added link to the warcraft movie site closed by RIAA RPG Films



Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2005.07.28 07:44:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: KrogothZero
Originally by: Ikvar
Edited by: Ikvar on 27/07/2005 21:46:49
That's true, I wonder where the EVE Files server is? Chribba, enlighten us!

Also, aren't CCPs servers in London? I heard once that at least the game servers are.


static-213-115-157-54.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se = eve files so sweden :) which reminds me of *snip* funny stuff.




Yup Sweden, however I have good relations to the Swedish equivalence of RIAA (called IFPI) so I would most likely get to know from them first, but I seriously doubt that they will bother unless you start using Swedish artists, so more likely that RIAA talks to me or my ISP if so.

But I guess we will see, I will keep you updated on the matter if I find out anything worth telling.

Henka
Gallente
Total Mayhem.
Aftermath Alliance
Posted - 2005.07.28 08:48:00 - [28]
 

the entire thing is just foney, the letter they got from RIAA was (by a offical on RIAA) fake.

Riaa never closed them down.

Love internet and all the rumors, here is a quote:

Quote:
"RIAA Director of Communications Jenni Engebretsen sez, "The RIAA has not initiated any communication or legal action against RPG Films. It appears as though someone may have found and copied an old RIAA notice and filled it in with RPG Film web site information -- regardless, the link included in this posting is not an authentic RIAA notice."


And here is even the link: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/27/riaa_we_didnt_take_d.html

JoCool
Caldari
Posted - 2005.07.28 12:55:00 - [29]
 

As long as you don't make money with the movies, it shouldn't be touchable by law or am I wrong?

Glad I live in the EU.

Henka
Gallente
Total Mayhem.
Aftermath Alliance
Posted - 2005.07.28 14:13:00 - [30]
 

Well, its hard to say. They dont like people downloading music (mp3's), so why would they like that we download the same mp3 but in a "video", essentialy making it a MUSIC VIDEO.

Oh well, I dont know.


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