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Yith Solarius
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:57:00 - [1]
 

Warning subsequent threads may contain spoilers!

Just finished reading it today and damn that was good, totally didn't expect ***** to die that was a big shock but it set the last book up nicely.

can't wait for book 7 now shame its at least 2 years away.

Im interested to see what other people thought of the book so post away.

Caitriona Aine
Gallente
The Sharpies
Posted - 2005.07.17 21:15:00 - [2]
 

I thought the book overall was very good, but found the ending a bit of a letdown. I wasn't at all surprised at the death but I never would have guessed who did it. I was very wrong at who the half-blood prince was but I gained a lot of evidence for a few of my other crazy theories. It certainly will be interesting to see how it all pans out in the end.

As for the one who did it, I'm not as convinced of his guilt today as I was last night when I finished the book. IMO He didn't have a choice but to do it and there is much about the situation that we haven't found out yet. He will be vindicated just before he dies in the final book.

Ikvar
A Blue Goat
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:17:00 - [3]
 

Harry Potter is a ****, I bet he runs like, 8 stabs.

MadGaz
Temptation inc.
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:19:00 - [4]
 

Had to laugh, was out in town on Friday with some ladies, wondered past a WHSmith and they just had to buy it, all ****ed out of their heads wobbling around. I was just there laughing at the die hard potter fans waiting to buy the book so early while they was sober ugh

Lucian Alucard
Caldari
Black Vice Industries
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:47:00 - [5]
 

oh i hate you people please tell me who died

Admiral Pieg
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:55:00 - [6]
 

err, isnt harry potter a childrens book

Asharee Intrefer
Their Damnedest Day
Posted - 2005.07.18 03:06:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Admiral Pieg
err, isnt harry potter a childrens book


I think the earlier books came in different editions, with the regular cover and a more neutral adult cover...

Darlan Flame
GoonFleet
Posted - 2005.07.18 03:13:00 - [8]
 

I cant believe harry dumped her at the end. I just cant believe it.

Tekka
Caldari
Sneaky Beaver
Posted - 2005.07.18 03:58:00 - [9]
 

harry potter...wtf...kids...book.......BLAH

Eclissa
Posted - 2005.07.18 05:29:00 - [10]
 

Its ok, we forgive you for reading all those harlequin novels. Turning your brain to mush. HP is a fun story about a group of friends trying to deal with their world the best way they know how.

Yes I am still mad at Harry for dumping her!! I was furious with Ron for the way he acted early on in the book.




Originally by: Tekka
harry potter...wtf...kids...book.......BLAH

Hakera
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2005.07.18 06:13:00 - [11]
 

good read, few surprises in it, sorta predictable who was going to die but i got it wrong who would do it. Mostly just laid the scene for the next one which is sorta bad because everything is just building up to a grandiose finale which undoubtly will be the final duel between harry and voldemort.

Though the plot of the next one is basically laid out, harry + the other two and assorted extras go on big quest for the horcruxes only to find out 'R.A.B.' has already nicked a few or all, they destroy them and then big finalle between voldermort and harry with some possible twist like neither can die while the other one lives or something like that and then some return of the jedi'esque ending with various ghosts of dead characters at the big 'we killed voldermort' party at the end.

Quite a lot of easy paralells to the old good vs evil, sorta predictable whats coming next though but i'll still read it. Thought this one was average, first two were great, then the others were ok with order of th ephoenix a bit all over the place and this was the ok 'buildup for grand finalle' one.


Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2005.07.18 06:19:00 - [12]
 

Pfft, newbs. Irenicus had much greater appeal than voldermort. Cool

Darlan Flame
GoonFleet
Posted - 2005.07.18 09:56:00 - [13]
 

She went with him almost every time he went to fight voldemort. She's probably the only one left next to harry with as much experiance against him. But, oh no! You cant come with me. Its too dangerous.

Bull.

Mr Floppyknickers
Mr. Floppyknickers Corp
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:32:00 - [14]
 

Like she'll listen in the end anyway. But too much mush for me, and the relationships were very predicatable in the end, although I was glad they finally got to it instead of leaving it endlessly hanging in the air.

What I don't get is how he's supposed to pull it off. The character clearly doesn't know nearly as much as he should for the tasks and dangers that lie ahead. I wonder if the author will buzz ahead a decade to show a grown, darker, more experiences and more powerful Harry, or if it will pick up right after the events at the end of the book? Granted he'll likely have a band of his freinds at his side, but invariably it is always he who faces the most terrible dangers alone and as is just doesn't seem prepared for them. I hope she does grow him up a bit before he really gets into what he needs to do.

Again I say he was no where near a match this time around, and clearly lacked the knowledge when it came to ferreting out the items location and nature of their protections. He simply lacks the skill of more experienced wizards and for the first time found himself desperately overmatched on more than one occasion without any way whatsoever to get the job done.

As for the comments about it being a childrens book, all I can say is sooo damn what!Evil or Very Mad If people enjoy it let them enjoy it, and any more the books are seeming less and less like childrens books as the story progresses. I'm sure the author loves that everyone enjoys and more importantly buys her books. I don't see anyone railing on others for playing EVE "Because only kids played video games." Lose the tude.

Rissa Kerguelen
Posted - 2005.07.18 14:13:00 - [15]
 

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I think what someone mentioned on another forum I read has some good possibility... Harry's the last Horcrux. Neither can die while the other lives. Dumbledore mentioning that Horcruxes can be living things. I doubt Rowling has the guts to do something like that because it would probably alienate all of her fanbase, but she's uber-rich and it could, and hopefully will be, her last book in the Potter universe so one can only hope...Twisted Evil

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.18 20:12:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Rissa Kerguelen
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I think what someone mentioned on another forum I read has some good possibility... Harry's the last Horcrux. Neither can die while the other lives. Dumbledore mentioning that Horcruxes can be living things. I doubt Rowling has the guts to do something like that because it would probably alienate all of her fanbase, but she's uber-rich and it could, and hopefully will be, her last book in the Potter universe so one can only hope...Twisted Evil


I had that theory in my mind as soon as they said there were multiple horcruxes. Oddly enough, DD didn't come to this conlusion.

It wouldn't alienate btw, it would rather be a cool climactic moment, for Voldemort to see he accidentaly made Harry his last horcrux (so he can't kill him without exposing himself to an enourmous risk and dependancy on his followers) and Harry can kill Voldemort, although i don't know how the remaining horcrux fragment would act.

Also, i knew either DD or Snape was going to get killed, however, i put my money on Snape for the msot part, and i would nnever have guessed who was to be the killer of either of those 2.

Also, i simply think Snape is a traitor. DD said so himself: Because he is a great man, his misstakes are equally great. The impression i got from his death scene was one of despair, not one of trust and understanding. He finally saw that Snape was evil.

Too bad Rowling exposed the hint to that waaaaaaay too early, and the scene at the Prime Minister was nothing but a short summary of the 2 months in between book 5 and 6. I hope this involvement gets a little bit more attention in the next book.

And i certainly hope it's at least 1000 pages. 5 hours for a book of 600+ pages that isn't even written in my primary language is too short.

PaulAtreides
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.18 20:26:00 - [17]
 

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OMG MY EYEZZZZZ!!!1

Yith Solarius
Posted - 2005.07.18 21:06:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: PaulAtreides
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OMG MY EYEZZZZZ!!!1


lol i did warn people at the top Laughing

fairimear
Gallente
The Sp00Ks
Posted - 2005.07.18 21:10:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: fairimear on 18/07/2005 21:16:24
im gona be shuned by my peirs for this but wtf.

1. She killed him off but did not remove him.
He now is a portrait on the wall of the heads office.
This has allowed her to leave him to guide Harry but not be a obstical in having the final battle.

2.Note how fast the end came about.
most of the book was about the school year.
This says to me the last book will not follow the norm of school year leading to events.

3. He did't dump her he tried to protect her.
And as you can tell from the books in the past her characters have a habbit of not doing what Harry wants.
She will probably be more important at the end than the other 2.

4. note how the events of his death unfolded and what Harry had found out about the murderer not a chapter before.
This is also in habbit with how normaly she will land a plot twist about the character that is about to go into a majour event.

These normaly lead to harry not having all the info and imediatly jumping to a conclusion also normaly part rong.


These are the main things i see from my point of view and they lead me to beleive:

1. The final battle will be at the school or some where equaly prominant in the books.

2. We are going to see a new characer or 1 that has been so breifly mentioned before in 7.

3. The whoha about who killed him and their real alligence is probably not over.



As for who reads the books.
the first 2 are best to see as films and are 100% childrens tales.
3-6 get much darker and more grown up as the books go on.
7 is probably going to follow the same lines.



Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2005.07.18 21:54:00 - [20]
 

7 will probably not play at Hogwarts. Most of it will be a search for the remaining horcruxes, with Harry, Ron and Hermione.

I, for one, welcome this, as it presents a little more view of the magic world outside of the castle.... I liked the glimpse i caught of it in the 4th book.

execc
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.07.18 23:21:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: execc on 18/07/2005 23:24:58
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Gunstar Zero
Caldari
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2005.07.19 09:27:00 - [22]
 

I'm still not sure Snape is teh ebil. DD could have been stuffed anyway, what with his arm, drinking that crap etc.

Allowing himself to be killed would let snape be in top position to assist further - he was after all bound with the unbreakable thingy.

Who knows, he may well come back anyway something to do with that 'Phoenix lament' or something.

j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.19 14:20:00 - [23]
 

"I'm still not sure Snape is teh ebil. DD could have been stuffed anyway, what with his arm, drinking that crap etc."

Not sure myself, either... Snape had the vow thingie going there, and if he didn't do what Draco what ordered to, he'd drop dead there himself. Kinda caught between the rock and hard place... o.O;

Hakera
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2005.07.19 15:29:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: j0sephine
"I'm still not sure Snape is teh ebil. DD could have been stuffed anyway, what with his arm, drinking that crap etc."

Not sure myself, either... Snape had the vow thingie going there, and if he didn't do what Draco what ordered to, he'd drop dead there himself. Kinda caught between the rock and hard place... o.O;


but it takes true hatred to cast the unforgivables against someone. It's possible DD knew Snape would do it and planned everything (as he mysteriously does) and other questions are raised like why didnt the other death eaters take a pot shot at DD and how did they manage to block the order from coming to help which makes me think it was a field put there by DD as I doubt the others would have such powerful magic.

On one last note I always find it strange that the unforgivables dont have their opposites. The death spell cannot be countered except indirectly like using a phoenix (which oddly didnt come to help DD...) In a world of good vs evil and all that you would think there would be some counter imo anyway (aside from love but that still required a sacrifice to make it work...)


j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.19 16:23:00 - [25]
 

"but it takes true hatred to cast the unforgivables against someone."

Ohh i don't doubt Snake is one sick puppy that's seriously fscked up in the head <g> It's just he seems more to me like swaying between both light and dark, rather than being the hardcore, declared, 100% ebil thing with a masterplan he follows... which is what actually make him interesting, there isn't that many book characters like that out there. He's very... human in that aspect, which is probably what makes him so prone to be disliked in the world of larger-than-life heroes.

Lianhaun
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.19 20:03:00 - [26]
 

K, sounds like i should read this then.

Xrak
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2005.07.19 22:00:00 - [27]
 

hmm maybe if a I read number4 I mite understand the spoliers

Confused

Viceroy
Posted - 2005.07.20 01:14:00 - [28]
 

So like, who got DD's killmail? Very Happy

(PS: At last a book where the griefers won)

Electric Six
Posted - 2005.07.21 11:06:00 - [29]
 

Shocked

2005.07.20 14:19:00

Victim: Albus Dumbledore
Alliance: Good
Corporation: Hogwarts [HOGW]
Destroyed Type: Person
Solar System: Sol
System Security Level: 1.0

Involved parties:

Name: Severus Snape (laid the final blow)
Security Status: -0.2
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Hogwarts
Curse Type: Avada Kedaver
Wand Type: Unknown

Lady AhnWeinerschnitzel
Posted - 2005.07.21 12:34:00 - [30]
 

BY FAR THE BEST BOOK YET!!!!


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