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NGRU Rix
Dark Design
Posted - 2005.07.13 01:38:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: NGRU Rix on 13/07/2005 01:38:25
Edited by: NGRU Rix on 13/07/2005 01:38:08
Commanders, Officers and Deadspace Complex end bosses now have a chance of dropping 1-run blueprint copies of faction ships. This compensates the decrease in bounty for Complexes. The end is the goal, not the road to the end.

Well, it seems all overseers are dropping them, CCP you need to fix this ASAP because people are profiting of the earlier levels of the complexes big time.

Remember The end is the goal, not the road to the end.

Avalon Beholder
Posted - 2005.07.13 01:44:00 - [2]
 

Faction frigates will become cheap then.

It all balances out, dont worry.

Nyk0n
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.07.13 01:44:00 - [3]
 

Tho i do get what u mean, i cant forsee it becomeing a major isk generator, cos the prices will just bottom out, it wont take long before a faction frig sells 4 20m.

The only "issue" i can see is huge devalueing of faction ships, considering some of the prices ive seen some of these ships sell at, it might not be to bad a thing if they come down a tad.....

NGRU Rix
Dark Design
Posted - 2005.07.13 01:46:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: NGRU Rix on 13/07/2005 01:49:54
I'm not talking about the de-value of faction ships, im talking about the patch notes specifically saying its the end boss who is only supposed to drop the BPC's.

CCP have specifically made a little motto to go with it and even decreased the bounties to try to get people to stop farming early levels and actually complete the whole thing.

Only the end boss is supposed to drop the super uber loot - ie faction ship bpcs, the fact that the other bosses are to is a MAJOR BUG!


Also please mod dont lock this, all the complexes in the game get farmed every day anyway, its not like people will flock to abuse this, since they already do. I want CCP to see this fast.

Abdalion


Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2005.07.13 01:50:00 - [5]
 

If you know this for a fact, please file a bug report.

Nyk0n
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2005.07.13 01:54:00 - [6]
 

Sorry by oveerseers i thought u ment the "end boss", you mean that theres a bp dropping in several sections of each complex, so u do 1 complex and possibly come out with 3-4 prints?

If so, yea i guess thats a tad silly

Keta Min
El Bastardos
Freedom of Elbas
Posted - 2005.07.13 01:58:00 - [7]
 

faction ships have interesting stats and bonuses, if their price drops we will see more of them used in pvp which is good.

NGRU Rix
Dark Design
Posted - 2005.07.13 02:00:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Nyk0n
Sorry by oveerseers i thought u ment the "end boss", you mean that theres a bp dropping in several sections of each complex, so u do 1 complex and possibly come out with 3-4 prints?

If so, yea i guess thats a tad silly


Yes, you could get 4-5 blueprints out of 1 complex, 1 for each level.

NGRU Rix
Dark Design
Posted - 2005.07.13 02:04:00 - [9]
 

Some of you dont seem to be seeing the problem with this, the faction bs is supposed to be the main reward for the completing the end of the complex, people are getting them drop on every level, basically getting the uber end boss reward for each level.

This defeats the reason to even kill the end boss if hes too hard, people will just go up as far as the level before that and then leave, how lame is that.

How long before CCP would get this fixed? I would have thought a bug like this would be hotfixed within a day.

Abdalion


Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2005.07.13 02:12:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: NGRU Rix
How long before CCP would get this fixed? I would have thought a bug like this would be hotfixed within a day.


Have you thought that maybe they don't know about it?

Bug report is:

<-----that way.

Or, you could petition it under exploit, if you feel it meets the criteria.

If I had firsthand knowledge to what you proclaim to be a fact, I would file it myself.

Ticondrius
United Federation Starfleet
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2005.07.13 03:23:00 - [11]
 

Considering it takes HOURS for a room's key boss to spawn, getting a BPC midway through is a nice consolation present.

Some people have lives and want cool stuff too. I've not gotten such a BPC in person, but I've heard the rumors and I've seen the prices plummet into something reasonable that I can actually afford.

Maybe making it a rarer drop from the non-end bosses, but not impossible? I'm currently sitting on the 3rd level of a *3* of 10 and I'm approaching having been here 3 hrs waiting for the key carrying boss to come. If he spawns and drops a faction cruiser BPC..sweet..I'll go on in and see how much further there is to go, and probably get nothing from the end boss.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2005.07.13 03:28:00 - [12]
 

Sorry, I'm a bit sleep deprived here but.. Am I missing something? The patch notes said deadspace overseers (the deadspace complex end bosses) will have a chance to drop 1-run bpcs of faction ships and they are dropping them. Isn't that what's supposed to happen? Or are we talking about the overseer of level 1 of the complex?

Ticondrius
United Federation Starfleet
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2005.07.13 03:36:00 - [13]
 

They're talking about certain types of NPCs that guard keys or other such things for entering warp gates and at the end of the complex.

These overseers can sometimes just be at the end of a complex, or in each room on the way in.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2005.07.13 03:42:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Ticondrius
They're talking about certain types of NPCs that guard keys or other such things for entering warp gates and at the end of the complex.
These overseers can sometimes just be at the end of a complex, or in each room on the way in.

Ah, so the end bosses of each level are dropping bpcs, not just the end boss of the entire complex. Looks abusable.

Deja Thoris
Invicta.
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2005.07.13 03:43:00 - [15]
 

Ive run a local complex a couple of times and no sign of any bpc.

Nikko Forte
Amarr
Dead Flesh Corp
Posted - 2005.07.13 03:57:00 - [16]
 

no not all are, ive been to over 10 complexes today and no overseer has for me

Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Naraka.
Posted - 2005.07.13 03:57:00 - [17]
 

I can verify that the Overseer in the 2nd level of Serp 3/10's drops bpc.

So does the Sansha black Ops Squad Leader in the first level of a Sansha 3/10 or 2/10.
Funny side note; The Overseer in the 2nd and final level of the Sansha complex always drops crap.

Ixianus
Posted - 2005.07.13 04:03:00 - [18]
 

At most the complexes we have tested drop 2 bpcs a day, at most.

In order to get 3 or 4 bpcs in a day a person would have to do 2 or 3 complxes. Its about right actually. Its not like each complex is droping 40 a day.

Please if you have actual reports that state other than what I have just said post them. Dont go fabricating events, as is so popular "round heah".

Nikko Forte
Amarr
Dead Flesh Corp
Posted - 2005.07.13 04:06:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
I can verify that the Overseer in the 2nd level of Serp 3/10's drops bpc.

So does the Sansha black Ops Squad Leader in the first level of a Sansha 3/10 or 2/10.
Funny side note; The Overseer in the 2nd and final level of the Sansha complex always drops crap.


lemme know where :P ive done 4 3/10 serph today, im doing one atm infact ;p and ive seen nothing out of it other than 7th tier effects.

nahtoh
Caldari
Brotherhood of The Saltire
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2005.07.13 04:08:00 - [20]
 

Lvl 4 guristas scout first overseer sometimes does (well once scored a gila). mind you have killed about 5 today would have been 6 perhaps but the guristas can thank Verone for stoping my NPC killing spree Very Happy

Warp in and think cool theres verone...then brain kicks in to slow locked scrambled toasted harpy Crying or Very sad

Ah well stuff happens...

Necrologic
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.07.13 04:19:00 - [21]
 

i run guristas 4/10s often while waiting for prey. Havn't gotten anything yet.

Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
Gilead's Bullet
Posted - 2005.07.13 04:31:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Necrologic
i run guristas 4/10s often while waiting for prey. Havn't gotten anything yet.
I can attest to this, because I just saw him doing this in Aurohunen in his Deimos. I was in my Harpy, flying with a few friends. After we cleared out the complex, we were cleaning up the loot cans in the last level when Necro showed up. My friends bolted...I didn't. Oddly enough, he just...sat there...for about a minute or so, before even trying to lock me. Killer instincts getting a little rusty, are they?

Of course, by that time, I was already moving precisely in the direction of my warp-out point, at full speed, so the instant he tried to lock me, I was able to insta-warp out like a scared little girl. Three cheers for cowardice! Oh well, my Harpy thanked me for saving her life...

F'nog
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2005.07.13 05:15:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: F''nog on 13/07/2005 06:51:41
If anyone would know this, it's certainly Grey Death Legion.

Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2005.07.13 06:10:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: F'nog
If anyone would know this, it's certail Grey Death Legion.

Laughing Found a secret cache of Star League tech?

P.S. Dont mind us, Battletech fans.

Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2005.07.13 06:10:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Sadist on 13/07/2005 06:10:25
double post, delete plz

Leno
Turbulent
Anarchy Empire
Posted - 2005.07.13 06:11:00 - [26]
 

i've gotten a frig and cruiser bpc so far... but spent more time then i would like waiting on key's to drop. Though i do thoroughly enjoy having faction ships with which to make pvp more exiting

DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
Posted - 2005.07.13 06:15:00 - [27]
 

I've done a bunch of them, no bpcs at all.

Amthrianius
Keiretsu
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2005.07.13 06:27:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Amthrianius on 13/07/2005 06:30:32
heh this is quite funny actually

the 3/10 serp complex is by farrrrrrrr the most profitable in empire

2nd lvl - drops Vigilant bpcs
3rd lvl - drops vigilant bpcs
final lvl - drops gistii items and domination items

bugged in soooooooo many ways

for a start its a 3/10 so should, if anything drop frig bpcs also its serp so should be dropping Coreli/shad serp items not gistii/domination :|

Not that this is all bad more faction ships in pvp = win, but it shouldnt be like this in empire complexes :/

Necrologic
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2005.07.13 06:32:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Necrologic
i run guristas 4/10s often while waiting for prey. Havn't gotten anything yet.
I can attest to this, because I just saw him doing this in Aurohunen in his Deimos. I was in my Harpy, flying with a few friends. After we cleared out the complex, we were cleaning up the loot cans in the last level when Necro showed up. My friends bolted...I didn't. Oddly enough, he just...sat there...for about a minute or so, before even trying to lock me. Killer instincts getting a little rusty, are they?

Of course, by that time, I was already moving precisely in the direction of my warp-out point, at full speed, so the instant he tried to lock me, I was able to insta-warp out like a scared little girl. Three cheers for cowardice! Oh well, my Harpy thanked me for saving her life...


Actually, i was coming into the complex to see if any of you had been silly enough to stay near the warp in point. I was approaching you at full speed the whole time, but i have only a mwd, no ab, and move aobut 200m/s. I noticed you weren't warping out, so i kept scanning to see if you were playing "bait" while your buddies re-entered the complex to come up behind me. After a minute, i got bored and locked you to the desired effect of you leaving.

Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
Posted - 2005.07.13 06:57:00 - [30]
 

I can also confirm that the second-room boss in guristas 2/10 and sanshas 1/10 drop them. But I dont see this as a bug or anything, I am assuming (particularly given lack of CCP response to this thread) that they want faction frigates to be somewhat common, valued at a few million isk so people will actually fly them around and fight with them, not have them just be rich-kid toys like empire-faction ships are. They have good stats but not awesome, I can see them as sort of being a bridge between tech1 and tech2 in terms of cost vs effectiveness.


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