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Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.09 14:44:00 - [1]
 

[edit: for best results, read the following in a John Cleese accent.]

Good afternoon, ladies, gentlemen, ladies posing as gentlemen, and 14-year-old hormonally active boys posing as chix0rs.

It has come to my attention that certain issues need some... clarification, here on the boards.

I understand that as issues of the day volley back and forth in verbal salvo, the finer points of grammar and spelling are flung aside with glorious abandon.

However, certain repetetive patterns do emerge which, i feel, will serve us all by being addressed. To wit:

- "Looser" is what your girlfriend is after 3 tequila shots and a Long Island Ice Tea. "Loser" is what your friends call you after she goes home with the bouncer.

- "Tweaking" - not "Tweeking!" - is both the act of making fine adjustments and a colloquial term used to describe a twitchy reaction; freaking out; not coping in a jittery, where's-my-coffee-dammit sort of way. Oddly, the two seem firmly related.

- "Whinging" is an odd hybrid of a word; when one whines about something long enough, others may begin winging small projectiles in the whiner's general direction, so that perhaps explains it.

- "Weak" denotes the lack of any significant strength you have for several "weeks" when you start playing the game. Those who do foolish things in that time and get themselves killed then proceed to the previous entry.

I do hope this clears a few things up for everyone. Tune in next week when we shall present a galaxywide broadcast debate entitled, "Cargo Looting: I Don't Care What The Rules, The Devs, CONCORD, Helpfiles, Or Anyone Else Says; It's My Container Dammit." Sidearms will be provided to all participants.


Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 09/07/2003 16:55:57

Athule Snanm
Amarr
Rien Ici
Posted - 2003.07.09 14:49:00 - [2]
 

Whinging is a real word:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Whinging

Oops, now I guess I'm now whinging about whinging about the word whinging used by whingers.

Have fun
Finn

Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.09 14:53:00 - [3]
 

I notice you carefully avoided mentioning the other points. I'm afraid M. Harlepost's experience with Old English words that remain in the British lexicon is extremely limited.

More to the point, however, i *really* wish I could believe that every use of the word i've seen could be attributed to British posters. However, since they make free and joyous use of the other entries as well, i strongly doubt it... ;-)

Scragg
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
Posted - 2003.07.09 14:53:00 - [4]
 

Might be fun to start repling to some posts with nothing more than:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Whinging


Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.09 14:54:00 - [5]
 

oh stfu you week looser.

Mr Bubbles
Posted - 2003.07.09 14:55:00 - [6]
 

I think you're missing the main idea.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=idea

drunkenmaster
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:03:00 - [7]
 

whinging *is* indeed a real word, but many times I've seen people called 'wingers'. Last I heard, a winger is a midfield/attack position in the classic sport of football (soccer for the culturally underdeveloped ;))

There are many other basic errors that are constantly recurring. My personal favourite is 'irregardless'.

I sort of see where it came from, they're doing to 'regardless' what they did to 'responsible'

irresponsible = NOT responsible
irregardless = NOT regardless (?)

instead of irregardless, try 'anyway,' or even 'despite that,' or maybe 'nevertheless'

The thing is, I still know what people mean, but some of them are just funny to read. It's like listening to someone sing along to a song, and only get half the words right.

----------

Also worth a mention: If you are going to flame someone, there are a couple of important points to remember.

1) Be correct. Flaming someone based on bad data is like a free furnace ticket.

2) Be careful. Spelling/grammar errors have a strange way of being thrown back at flamers.

3) Don't do it at all. Unless you are percieved to be universally funny, like me*, then your flames will generate counter-flames. When I've done flaming someone, the post normally falls off the page, as people cower from it in fear. (Unless I broke rule 1 or 2, in which case, it gets thrown back in my face)

3a) If you're not funny, don't try to be.

4) Don't mistake fairly obvious over-exaggeration, and plain lies to be the truth. Flaming someone for a joke, whilst thinking them serious, is a very embarrasing situation to find yourself in.

5) This is where you put your own rule. And remember, no two flamers can be the same, OK?

*see point 4

Edited by: drunkenmaster on 09/07/2003 15:10:55

Teris Kender
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:03:00 - [8]
 

Lets not forget:

your vs you're

to, too, two

there vs their


Macumba
Minmatar
Doomheim
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:06:00 - [9]
 

stfu BH u *** kthxbye

drunkenmaster
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:15:00 - [10]
 

oh, and 'fanboi'

Where did that stupid 'i' come from? A girl, I'd say. Maybe called 'Cindi' or 'Jeni' or some other daft nonsense.

So, to continue:

6) every time you put an 'i' at the end of fanboy, a whiner gets herpes.

Mr Bubbles
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:18:00 - [11]
 

... and you can't even imagine what happens to whingers.

Athule Snanm
Amarr
Rien Ici
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:25:00 - [12]
 

>>
stfu BH u *** kthxbye
>>

What's the big deal about ***s? I used to enjoy a good long puff on a camel with the best of them before it became too expensive and I had to stop!

Have fun
Finn

Ashira Macinari
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:32:00 - [13]
 

As demonstrated by the wonderfully structured, well thoughtout critique from Macumba.

Way to go. =)


Edited by: Ashira Macinari on 09/07/2003 15:33:36

Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:39:00 - [14]
 

/me refers Ashira to the aforementioned Point 4.
(in case you yourself were trying to be funny, instead see Point 3a ;D).
Note both Mac's and my corp affiliation. Hehh.

drunken: that's a great list, btw - make that up?

Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 09/07/2003 15:40:00

Wardish
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:39:00 - [15]
 

*chuckle* I want to thank everyone for a post and thread that was a pleasure to read.

I always appreciate it when people use iq points for something besides a preschool digit example.

I think the i at the end is a reference to alternative lifestyles. If I recall correctly (and please correct me if I don't) it refers to one of the opposite gender that identifies with that gender. So that boi would be a female identifying with a male'ish role in a relationship. (I merrily create words when I don't have one handy.)

As to flaming in general, there are few pleasures more shared than watching someone disassymble a flamer/haxor/l33t person in a channel and all without ever saying anything improper or objectionable. Channels can produce rousing cheers...<G>

Looking forward to more from all,


Xane
Minmatar
Republic Security Services
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:47:00 - [16]
 

disgruntle is a great word, but like nearly all dis- prefixed words the opposite is in fact a real word too - gruntle.

Saying that I find myself fairly gruntled about EVE so far :)

Edited by: Xane on 09/07/2003 15:47:58

Ashira Macinari
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2003.07.09 15:52:00 - [17]
 

damn that rule 4, I guess I'll just read and laugh, and leave the posting to those better suited to it.

Unless of course I was following a secret rule of my own...

7. Act the fool, to hide your foolishness (that a word?)

Riddari
VIT
Posted - 2003.07.09 16:20:00 - [18]
 

While I'm quite confident that my english isn't unbearable for native english speakers, those same people must remember that this is an international game.

The playing field is not level, many have difficulties writing correct grammar or spelling in a language that is perhaps their 4th one. We also have numerous people who are dyslexic.

If the point comes across... the end is met. Female dog-calling is not needed, you native english (american english/australian english etc) speakers should be thankful that they decided to use English as official language for EVE and not Spanish!

drunkenmaster
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2003.07.09 16:27:00 - [19]
 

Ashira escapes embarrasment by citing rule 5. Good work.

Yeah, I made it all up. But that is only a partial list. The mistakes people make when flaming are some of the best material on the internet.

And I'm still laughing at 'gruntled'

This is my favourite thread today.

I just wish I could subscribe to the buggering things. I don't really want 50 bookmarks called 'Eve player website'. Curse Snitz.

My UT clan used to have a snitz forum, and it was abysmal, even *with* all the features. I can understand why it's being used, but it's a real shame we can't use Invision or even UBB*.

Maybe now they're getting subscription money in, they can think about upgrading to a more powerful system. Irregardless**, there's still hope.

* pfft
** ;)

drunkenmaster
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2003.07.09 16:31:00 - [20]
 

Ridd, I make a point of *not* having a go at foreigners. Although I did post one the other day, but what he wrote made me laugh for about 10 minutes (in a good way).

But there's no excuse* for the native English-speaking types. Especially when they're flaming somebody.

And if I were to flame somebody in a foreign language, I'd do my best to get it proof-read :) So far, I've only flamed a dutch guy in Dutch, but I totally couldn't understand his reply, so I guess I lost that one :/

*a few excuses

Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.09 17:02:00 - [21]
 

I find it amusing that many of the non-native speakers on here post with more clarity than (some of) the ranting hordes of America. Break out the foam hands, 'cause We're Number One!

I also love language and playing with words (can y'TELL?) and can *usually* spot the difference between a Transmanglation program and someone posting themselves, due to grammar and sentence structure...

Oh, drunken, i usually just change the name of the bookmark on the fly to fit the topic, leaving the EVE prefix. It sorts things nicely =8).

Scragg
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
Posted - 2003.07.09 17:23:00 - [22]
 

Wait just a dern minute...... now ya'll have gone to fer. No fair pikn on our foam were #1 hands!


Xane
Minmatar
Republic Security Services
Posted - 2003.07.09 17:38:00 - [23]
 


Mr Bubbles
Posted - 2003.07.09 17:46:00 - [24]
 

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Khaed Duhn
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Posted - 2003.07.09 18:07:00 - [25]
 


No there is nothing wrong at all with expressing yourself as an individual, but it would be nice if during this process you could provide us all with decoder rings.

Sorry gotta labour the point a bit more (work related boredom does this) also I love expression and all that, but isn't the fun in expressing yourself in actually being understood ?

It's seems that you guys are backing yourself into the same corner the pygmies did when the explorers turned up.

"Whats that Smithe.... the little fella with the stick seems to be saying something, all a bunch of clicks'n'whistles to me....shoot him will you."

:)

Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.09 18:08:00 - [26]
 

nice link Xane. I may make it into a T-shirt 8)

Letifer Deus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2003.07.09 18:34:00 - [27]
 

you native english (american english/australian english etc) speakers should be thankful that they decided to use English as official language for EVE and not Spanish!

No offense, but I do not think Spanish would have even been a choice.

Arondos
Minmatar
Old Timers Guild
Posted - 2003.07.09 18:53:00 - [28]
 

Just a post too you Looserz, Tweeking and Whinging some week irregardless jibes at there sux0rzn3ss irregardless of wether your deserving of the to. And you're post was quite entertaining two.

There that should have some English teachers heads spinning.

Hoar
Amarr
Hoar Corp
Posted - 2003.07.09 19:03:00 - [29]
 

rule 15
1337 speak does not impress the girls
rule 16
1337 speak does not impress anyone
rule 17
1337 speak is something you will grow out of when the fur or bumps appear (depends on gender)
rule 18
Putting quotes in a sig is ok but see rule 16
rule 19
Putting made up quotes in a sig and thinking that they are deep in phylosophical meaning - see rule 17
rule 62
Things do not 'comprise of..' they 'comprise..'
rule 98
Sleeping with people for money does not make you cheap, sleeping with people for very little money makes you cheap.

alphatronics
Caldari
Posted - 2003.07.09 19:26:00 - [30]
 

back to work, you.


 

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