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Valandil Caldarini
Posted - 2003.07.04 15:47:00 - [1]

Okay - I know! Another NooB without the EVE vision or foresight. But.....
How do I climb the EVE ladder then? Do i just spend my time mining roids and selling the minerals to make my millions which will allow me to upgrade? Or.....
Do I do something else? I'm not expecting a quick buck here guys - just some advice as to what I should be aiming at doing to get me out of my skip with a rocket strapped to the back of it!!! What sort of timescale should I be looking at? People are talking about their forst 100 million ISK? WHAT??? I have busted my ass for 45k!
Your assisitance and advice will be very welcome!

Republic Security Services
Posted - 2003.07.04 16:25:00 - [2]

You have to be very careful when people post strategies, especially those who have been in the game since release or back in beta.

On release there were high quality ore asteroid belts completely unguarded, a lot of people made millions in those first few days until they upgraded the pirates.

At the start there were no NPC pirates, and certainly no player pirates, guarding gates in low security systems, so trading through them was no real risk, many people made a lot of money on trade when it was all risk free.

About a week after release, the price of isogen fell through the floor, being the staple commodity of low level asteroid miners there was suddenly a whole money making method taken away from them.

Later on, when people started manufacturing and demand for rarer minerals was high, suddenly it all moved out into fringe space, and again the starting character had no chance of getting it.

A lot has changed, and strategies may no longer work.

I always hear about how people make money by trading in "easy low risk get rich quick" schemes, but the answer always assumes you have an Industrial class ship, the skill to use it, and a fat wad of cash in the bank to buy goods to fill it, no one explains how you get to that position to start with.

For quick cash right after you generate you character try the Agent missions, which also introduce you to all the aspects of the game, once you have a little nest egg buy a better ship and quip it, then move into the profession you desire, be it trade, mining, hunting or piracy.

Edited by: Xane on 04/07/2003 16:25:55

Abavus Durden
Pukin' Dogs
Posted - 2003.07.04 18:41:00 - [3]

xane is right, tactics have changed and the universe has become much more dangerous to newer/less powerful players.

Probably the best way to make some immediate cash is to try to find someone to buddy mine with. By this, I mean someone with an Industrial hauls ore for you, you use a frigate w/ multiple mining lasers to pull ore. This is something our corp does frequently to pull in vast amounts of cheap ore. You won't make 100 mill doing this (unless you're willing to spend months at it), but it is a very good jumpstart for a new player.

There's many theories on the "best" ore to get, but a simple standby is Scordite. It's easy to sell because everyone needs it to build ships.

Republic Security Services
Posted - 2003.07.04 20:27:00 - [4]

The ship materials is going to be in demand now that factory space has been freed up, so again, another strategy that may have been previously unavailable.

Wil Rufus
Posted - 2003.07.04 21:51:00 - [5]

Best thing to mine, in my oppinion is NPC Pirates <g>

Rather then whole sale mining, go for a career NPC pirate hunting. Since the new patch this week. I'm finding it quite profitable now to hunt NPC pirates because you can carry more 'salvage' in your hold before you have to return to a station.

I can only cite Amarr ships in what I'm going to suggest, as they are the only ones I have used, but the other races will have equivalents.

Start off mining omber and scordite in 1.0 and 0.9 systems, with your first goal to be getting a Tormentor. They are quite cheap now. Once you have your Torm, set it up for mining. It will take 2 miner1's and with a couple of cargo extenders, then spend some time working towards getting a Punisher. You can also use your mining time to develope the skills you'll need to fly one while you are mining to raise your initial cash.

Once you have your Punisher, play around with various equipment load outs, then start hunting NPC pirates in 0.8 systems, once you can deal with them comfortably, then drop to a 0.7 system, and so on.

Once you have killed a pirate scoop up any equipment dropped as 'salvage'. When you have a full hold, return to a base that has a recycling facility, sort out any equipment you want to keep, then recycle the rest.

I personaly never try selling anything. If I'm not going to use it I'm quite brutal and it goes into the 'melting pot' Depending on what is dropped a hold full of recycled equipment can raise between 50k and 100k isk.

OK, you may be able to raise money faster with just pure mining, but I find this way much more entertaining. Plus it lets you get used to combat better and gives you a better feel for what does what.

Valandil Caldarini
Posted - 2003.07.05 22:19:00 - [6]

Thanks for the help guys! Keep 'em coming - this could turn into a really useful post for all newbies!!

Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2003.07.06 00:21:00 - [7]

Here's another tip, and a deal that i've made in the past:

Tritanium. It's a ***** to get in the amounts needed for cruiser production. A Low level miner can usually set up a good deal with a corp rep to mine for them exclusively. Meaning you mine veldspar or scordite and they buy it from you en masse. And will probably give you a probe to mine in and some cash to get you started, then a good deal on the minerals.
(This negates the point of flying around trying to find buy orders)

With a steady income of these minerals, they can focus on production and the little guy can sell his 1 mil tri for 1.5 mil isk, or trade the ore, which the corp probably has a better refiner than the small guy.

Another aspect of this, if you prove to be trustworthy they very probably will invite you into the corp and you can wreap the benefits.

Sadistic Savior
3vil Enterprises
Posted - 2003.07.06 04:45:00 - [8]

My site has answers to a lot of these questions.

Lexington Cabot
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.06 09:55:00 - [9]

I've been playing a week now. I mined until I had about 120k, bought a Slasher and looked for people to group up with to hunt the NPC's.

Not making a ton of money, but having a lot of fun and good combat experience. And there's the occasional good loot as well.

Just playing, having fun, and seeing where the road takes me. Think that's what it's all about if your new. That and talk to people. Be social. It is a multiplayer game after all.


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