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Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 02:41:00 - [1]

Just from what im hearing, AND seeing, im not liking this patch one bit. Weapons have been nerfed..FINE... Ammo Mods come into effect.. great.. sentry guns, excellent, **** off the pirates. As for making the pirates THAT much stronger, no thats just wrong. This is a pvp game, but how can we do pvp if the pirates are out of empire space? Personally i like killing npc pirates. All these factory, lab and office bugs getting me worried. Like that they making 32 slots now. Sorry but this isnt right, change the pirates back. And PLEASE if you want to make harder pirates, MAKE NEW ONES with good drops. :cough battleship pirates: Stop trying to fix things that really arent broken, and go fix things that ARE broken. Add some new content also, because atm THERE IS hardly ANY content. Oh man, im afraid to even go near an angel thug in fear it might hit a 900 on me :makes sick face:

Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 02:44:00 - [2]

thatīs it!

Posted - 2003.07.04 02:49:00 - [3]

"Fix this patch"


CCP should put that on the box

The Second Sons
Posted - 2003.07.04 02:50:00 - [4]

Yeah viper, i agree with you, when i realised the angel gay boys were so hard, WHY PUT THE EFFORT INTO KILLING THEM WHEN THEY DROP CRAP, ohh yeah lets take on 4 solid NPC and what do i get, a standard A3 Arblast, 100 lead charges and a pack of phalanx rockets, its was harly worth the expense of the Medium projectile ammo..

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Edited by: Hanns on 04/07/2003 02:50:55

Apex Consortium
Posted - 2003.07.04 02:50:00 - [5]

Good points on the lack of content etc.. though I have to say NPC pirates are still easy to take out.. hell I have just had some fun taking out some in my indi :) all it takes is some proper ammo.

But then its also true that you normally end up spending more effort killing them than you get from what you gain from the drops, and I have only been fighting bloodraiders.

Edited by: Drefsab on 04/07/2003 02:52:14

Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 03:01:00 - [6]

Ok.. i havnt gone near a pirate since the patch. Infact im having FUN(hahaha) sitting in the station doing nothing because i dont wanna get blown up by some pirate frigate. Im going on what hanns said. I agree his setup sucks, but before the patch, my 5x 425mm dual scouts could whoop anything easy. Now they do crap for dmg, and to boot they have a longer reload. WOW!

Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 03:07:00 - [7]

No ccp should put 'Warning, This Game May and Will Get Nerfed Beyond Reason, If You Like Mining, You Will Like These Nerfs, Otherwise, TOUGH' Make it in 2 pt dark purple font

Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
Posted - 2003.07.04 03:16:00 - [8]

man thats a lot of pink bats

Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 03:17:00 - [9]

CCP stop nerfing, start fixing and adding new content PLEASE. Im bored to tears with this game

Posted - 2003.07.04 03:31:00 - [10]


P.S. I am afraid, that the name of this bug is CCP, and it should be fixed.

Edited by: GoHa on 04/07/2003 03:31:23

Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 03:58:00 - [11]

Well its agent missions for me now =(

Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 05:52:00 - [12]

Also guys.. please try to keep this topic friendly =) dont want it to get locked.. please post you're opinion of the patch here, and tell CCP what to do to fix it!

Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
Posted - 2003.07.04 05:58:00 - [13]

No personal insults please. -Elereth


Posted - 2003.07.04 05:59:00 - [14]

Keep in mind it's a pain to read a thread like this when the nerf bats take up more space than the text.

Morkalum Takor
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2003.07.04 06:02:00 - [15]

Well said Elereth.

I hope the the Dev Team and Polaris don't breakdown over a few players spamming graphics.
(even though I know Tristan and fellow protesters of this patch are not doing it for that reason.

Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
Posted - 2003.07.04 06:07:00 - [16]

Removed, moderation actions are not to be discussed on the forums - Wrangler

Marco Wulf
Posted - 2003.07.04 06:17:00 - [17]

This patch is great, keep them comming CCP!

All ships/equipment are starting to matter now... no more huge rat-race to own the biggest ships & guns is a good thing. Now we can finally start playing this game. Bring on the content!


Daemun Khanid
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2003.07.04 06:44:00 - [18]

Why can people not stop whining about rediculous crap and actually see and enjoy eve for what it's meant to be. People are too busy whining OMG my 450 rail only does blah blah damage every who gives a crap seconds. If you just want to go blow things up go play quake or some other shooter. Fact is THIS PATCH is hands down one of the best I've seen EVER. FOR ANY piece of software. I do have to say I think alot of the things patched were things I expected to see when I took eve out of the box but this patch almost single handedly turned eve into more of what it was meant to be. Face reality, battles weren't intended to last 2 seconds, second rate cruisers weren't meant to have free reign over 0.0 sec systems. The best I've heard it said yet was this,"look at it this way, up till now you've all been allowed to play with power you weren't meant to have until WAY down the road, now their taking your toys away and putting everyone in their place." Or something to that effect. Get over it people. Just keep training up the skills and hunting for the best loadouts cause guess what... That awesome setup you had was just an illusion created by the incompleteness of the software build. I think now the REAL competition in eve will get stronger and those just looking for another space shooter will get bored and move on. Hope you had fun, CCP thanx you for your $50 and maybe next time you'll consider thinking alittle more realistically about what it is you're buying. Does it say action or shooter on the box??? No. So don't come here whining that it's not that way because that's what you expected. Sorry, this will probably **** some people off but I'm sick of reading the same displaced grieving over and over again. Goodnight. BTW The patch was great CCP, keep it up.

Posted - 2003.07.04 07:14:00 - [19]

BOTTOM LINE: People who love this crap patch are the ones who shanked all the slots and screwed over corps who have been in Eve since day one. This patch is a slap in the face. Rollback anyone? If they don't, it's gonna be a rollover of players. You're trading n00bs for the people who tested your beta. I'm so outta here.

Posted - 2003.07.04 07:16:00 - [20]

[Update] Slots and billing
We have found a solution to the problem, which I think should be agreeable to most. We will effectively double the available slots at each station. We will work out, from the backup taken before the patch was applied, who lost slots. Those that lost slots, will be given slots from the new pool.
We will also wipe all backlog bills.
This will allow the players that got slots today to keep them and the players that lost slots due to backlog, to only loose access to them for one day.

Well if I read that right... You will get your slots..

J0urneys End
Posted - 2003.07.04 07:17:00 - [21]

As you can see they don't bother to read the Dev Blog that everybody has been posting with the fix to the prob coming.

Daemun Khanid
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2003.07.04 07:38:00 - [22]

Funny, I don't even have a factory or lab slot and I think the patch was great. Oh that's right, the patch did more than help eleviate the slot problems. Seems to me the people who ganked all the slots and hoarded them are the ones complaining about the patch. Now they lost all their hoarded slots and other people can have them, poor things. Must be horrible not to be able to sell a slot you were RENTING for a few million isk to someone who actually needs it. I'm ranting again. Frustration still has passed.

Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 07:55:00 - [23]

Im going to make this as nice as possible even though i really really wanna flame someone. This patch was great. This patch was terriable. Both these are true. This patch added alot of functinality to the game, as well as remove alot. The new factory revamp was great! I like how you are balacing things, however i DONT like how you made pirate hunting a seemingly pointless profession, with hardly any money to be made. Atm im doing agent missions, which have a higher yield then killing pirates right now. The main reason you nerfed weapons was because they made pvp battles too short. Another problem is that you renamed the Dual 425mm 'scout' ... Why did you do that, that was a very cool name, now its very dull. Im a pirate hunting by profession, not a miner/carebear.

Band of Brothers
Posted - 2003.07.04 07:59:00 - [24]

Tell me, when are you, solo, ever able to take on three to four player cruisers and kill them with no trouble, whatsoever?

Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2003.07.04 08:05:00 - [25]

I can take 2 =)

Edit: COULD take 2, that is before this patch

Edited by: Viperx on 04/07/2003 08:06:41

EVE Employment Agency
Posted - 2003.07.04 09:11:00 - [26]

i'm sorry no matter how people try to coat this the patch was a disaster. even if you like the way guns are you can not say they did well with the market.

corp options

the jetison option is now a right pain yes i know some poeple will say well you should not be using it for mining also it stops spamming at gates. ok agreed but we were given some cargo containers to use instaed in beta they are pants. have no use what so ever give us somthing to use.

i could go on and on but this is not to point out the flaws cause people know them.

all we want is for ccp to fix them PLZ!!!

Inflatable Teen
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2003.07.04 09:12:00 - [27]

Now finally the combat is fun...
no more insta-kills...
I mean we want the action in this game to last somewhile right?

I hadnīt had any fun till last night on my Armageddon because every fight I got into lasted for 5 sec, then I had to start looking for more pirates or something.

These are not bugges that our modifiers have been nerfed, it was a bug before last night, then small + medium gun skills stacked on the Large guns as well. Now its been fixed.

All I can say is that this is a great improvement.

CCP keep up the good work.

Posted - 2003.07.04 11:57:00 - [28]

Wow, I made 7+ Mil today SOLO just killing these so called "Uber" pirates. (in my cruiser) If you don't believe me I know quite a few BS pilots that I met out there doing the same thing. Sure, they could kill them faster than I could, but It was only taking me a little longer to do than it was before this patch.

The short of it is, it is more than possible, it is soloable. 5 30-50K cruisers to a spawm, the ISK rolls in.

P.S. Got a lot of really cool drops also... Was using projectiles in a MOA. Yes they still own all other weapon types if properly decked out and the correct ammo is used. (I posted 2 threads 20 hours ago with the setup, try it, they still rude)

Edited by: Nightwing on 04/07/2003 11:59:43

Techno olic
Posted - 2003.07.04 12:07:00 - [29]

ban that chuffin nerf bat or make it half the size ! please

Mr Kipper
Posted - 2003.07.04 12:17:00 - [30]

Opinions are like as*holes....

Everyones got one, but they all stink :)

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