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Posted - 2003.07.03 23:05:00 - [1]

I think there will be more people wanting a roll-back than not.
I lost everything tonight, really feel like giving up.
wish all these changes could have been introduced more gradually.

Gold Brick
Posted - 2003.07.03 23:05:00 - [2]

I think you're assumption is wrong as I count for 100 people.

Posted - 2003.07.03 23:10:00 - [3]

OK, but you got to admit theres a lot of issues.

Jean Francois
Posted - 2003.07.03 23:16:00 - [4]

I really like the "issue" of rent backlogs, that made my day!

In yo face griefing hoggers!!!

(This is not aimed at you star, unless you are one ;] )

J0urneys End
Posted - 2003.07.03 23:19:00 - [5]

This patch worked out great for us, We got rid of some useless factories and picked up some main system factories and labs :)

Heretic Army
Posted - 2003.07.03 23:23:00 - [6]

This totally screwed me. I had two factory and two research slots. Now gone because someone rented them out from under me before I had a chance to re-rent after this "fix".

Where's Richard Simmons?


Posted - 2003.07.03 23:28:00 - [7]

A corp mate has payed better than 500ktotal on two factory slots, rent comes due every 2 hours since the patch. At the same time she lost 2 research slots THAT WERE IN USE, and got the 'do to inactivity blah blah' message.

Roll-back is the least they could do.

BTW I have lost nothing in this patch except the trade map...what a joke... However many corps have lost slots there are using, as well as time money ect. trying to save them.
Someone was spamming they had 30 factory slots and 50 research slots for sale on the trade channel... Sure glad they fixed only being able to rent what you can use....

(Those who know me or my corp, this post doesn not reflect on them. I'm saying this without permission, approval, or the knowlege of my corp. I'm ticked about this poor patch, and CCPs complete silence on EVERY post about it.)

Edited by: Malais on 03/07/2003 23:28:57

Trillian Dent
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2003.07.03 23:31:00 - [8]

1. Now when I fire a projectile weapon or someone next to me, I get not even a blue screen, it is just black with, nothing works.
2. I paid my rents, I manufactured with all my slots always (4 total) and now they are gone
3. I paid my rents for 2 research slots, was researching Mammouth and Rifter and now they got ejected and the slots are gone.

We are very very very sad and upset and since we were not online we lost all our base for operations. Feel like quiting. I am not a whiner I always supported EVE and CPP, I played the role when we could not find slots and after a long search and 40 Jumps we moved, we installed and started to grow, not as big as others but we were happy and had fun. Now its gone. And I can't even go hunting with my projectile skill.

Many others are sad as well. CCP should reconsider.

I love the improvements and the ideas of the improvements, but at the costs of many people ???

I have been in this IT business for over 10 years professionally, Big global networks, many routers (1000s) and many servers and I know that you should never change more than one thing at a time. Never.

Posted - 2003.07.03 23:56:00 - [9]

Face facts People this game is gonna die fast what is the point 3 hr battle and who runs out of ammo dies this is bulls%^t

J0urneys End
Posted - 2003.07.03 23:57:00 - [10]

I agree this patch had a ton of bugs. But I disagree about the rollback. I have spent most of today sorting out all the hanger settings and getting our labs factories in order. That is more than 8 hours of work. To see it rolled back would make me extremely annoyed. Those of you who lost a factory/lab whatever. There are plenty still lying around all over. Just look for them. There is still plenty of office space around to rent those too.

Factory rent is not cheap. This new system actually will work to keep people from just hogging them. Those that were hogging them for months got what had coming to them as they were charged for every period of back rent the system didn't charge and also if they didn't actively use the slots in that period, the slots got unrented.

Only people that got to keep the slots are the people who have legitimately used them since they first rented them. Thats the way it should be.

Trillian Dent
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2003.07.04 00:07:00 - [11]

can u read MoonDragn?

I used them and sorry I didn't had time to play 8 hours !!!!

What annoyes me the most are the comments you guys make. Of course the system will work and I am TOTALLY, can u read, TOTALLY ok with that, but not like that!!! I payed I used they were even in use.

So did others, I know people who are complaining, they used them. Sorry buddy, but your work of 8 hours, that will be bad, of course, but my and anybody elses hours 40-80 to look for slot and finally got a few!!!!!!

I couldn't play because it crashed on me!!!!

Man, get real. To bad if you loose your 8 hours and I am really sorry for you. I know what it feels when u loose 80 hours of work.

Edited by: Trillian Dent on 04/07/2003 00:07:38

Veil Obsidious
Posted - 2003.07.04 00:16:00 - [12]

as usual moon u simplify this issue to the lowest possible losing 8 hours work,lol get over it.

as far as loss,many of us had prime realestate in fact and labs,being used nearly always.

so now because ccp cant think there way out of thye world of **** they created were gonna pay for it?

roll this crap back,or simply face the consequences CCP.

you cant compensate us for stuff,and your grace period has ended,either deliver a game or watch alot of us pull the plug.

no i dont speak for all of eve,but,simply look at the tone of most of the posts on the board,do you think were gonna tolerate this any longer?


ive had to relocate to a station that i cant get a corp office in,fly 2 complete manufacturing centers to a new location,get new offices somewhere else,and all because some idiot at CCP thinks they have carte blanche.

personally im boycoting EVE till they rollback,fix restore this.

and if thast not done in a timely fashion,a call to visa ends all my eve worries.

"im mad as hell and im not gonna take it anymore"
My new CCP motto

Posted - 2003.07.04 00:17:00 - [13]

go read the dev blog. now.

Calladen Nimitz
Todaki Innovations
Posted - 2003.07.04 00:20:00 - [14]

From what I've seen aren't the slot rent bills just past due bills that weren't collected before?

If I'm correct that means they're just billing people what they should've been billed before right?

Calladen Nimitz

J0urneys End
Posted - 2003.07.04 00:28:00 - [15]

Correct Callenden. They are just collecting overdue bills that never got collected.

Vail. Yes I oversimplified things. Some people don't want to read novels. They have a log of everytime you used the slots and every time the rent was due. Perhaps those people should petition and see why their slots were taken.

DON'T PENALIZE the rest of US. The last rollback cost me 20 hours of work and 10 mil in isk. Time is precious to me and I don't think you can justify wasting my time on something that isn't my fault. I'm sure CCP have utilities to fix these problems IF there was one. They do not need to roll back everything we have done today to do so.

Crying for a roll back because you could not log on to rerent the slots is dumb. What about all those people who could not log on during the first month of the game and could not rent a slot?

Should they get a rollback too? Or do you want to just wipe out the universe and start over?

Posted - 2003.07.04 01:28:00 - [16]

Well what I saw was a billing error, in that I never recieved a bill for my Corp office space so I lost it. I lost it to non payment for a bill I never recieved. Then could not re-rent my space back because they had been taken by people who get online before I do and grabbed my office space before I could even get online.

To make matters worse was I had to pay a fine for impounding the stuff I had to get it back, then was billed for factory space which I then lost before I even had a chance to see what was going on because of time differance.

Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2003.07.04 02:39:00 - [17]

Well i didn't even play game after patch, thank GOD, I will give it a go, will first pick on 0.4 pirates, and maybe 0.3 or so, see how it goes.

Also about game, I see it dead also in little while, frankly me and some mates, we working on EVE2:) well afcourse similar, main ***** is the Graphics engine, if we coudl only get it from CCP for free, or for a small sum, we could make a great game. Firsly we would change the main database:) and then I'm sure we could come with 100's of improvments, besides there are forums for ideas:)

We'll see what we come up with. But don't be surprised to hear abut a new game that will probably use the EVE engine. Someone out there will pick it up soon, if not I;ll just way for X2, seems like EVE and Freelancer and much more crossed over.

If all fails, there is always World Of Warcraft.

Alliance Tactical Research Industries
Posted - 2003.07.04 02:53:00 - [18]

Tyrellius I am hoping you are just a moron.

Why would CCP give away years of hard work for "free or low cost" so you can make a competing product.

That is like me saying if I just could get Ford to give me 1000 cars, trucks, and SUVs for free or for $1 each then I could open a dealership.

The fact that you have no concept of how the real software industry works leads me to believe you don't have the ability to code solitare2 let alone Eve2.

BTW: Eve is a registered trademark of CCP so if you did somehow make a game "eve2" you would just be sued for trademark infringment.

Posted - 2003.07.04 03:02:00 - [19]

I wish they would release the server software, my UO shard has pretty much stalled out since I have been totally neglecting it this last year playing eve, so I could stand to start up a new server.

And I already know how to fix most of the crap that they can't seem to wrap their brains around.

I wonder if anyone besides Campion has ever actually PLAYED any game like this....


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