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Aayla Reyvar
Posted - 2011.09.09 04:30:00 - [1]

I just don't get it. I really want to like this game. Amazing graphics, one of the better space travel MMO's I've played.. but its just not happening. I can forgive the fact that I rarely actually do anything because the game does it all on its own. I can forgive the fact that I can only level one character at a time. I can even forgive the fact that it's going to take months before I'm capable of really doing anything at all, no matter how much I play.

What I can't forgive is the total inability to actually play the game. I'm new. I have a crappy ship. Granted, its the best I can get.. the destroyer and industrial Gallente ships given by the intro missions that is. I go out, try making money by mining. Read up on guides, decide to try it out. After all, its about the only thing I can do at this point. Put a few mining lasers on my destroyer and go jetcan mining.. next thing I know some guy makes off with all my stuff. Knew that was a gamble, but really.. the only other way to mine takes too long to be remotely feasible.

So I keep going, figure it's probably a freak thing.. after all, who would go mining if that happened all the time? Next thing I know, some guy comes up in a ship that is triple my destroyer in every way.. picks up all my stuff, then warp scrambles me for an hour and puts himself on follow so I can't even play. Wow, what an ass right?

Third time's the charm? Nope. Some guy pops up with a yellow name. Figure I'd better go get my industrial ship and get my stuff to base this time. So, I get back.. pick up my stuff.. and he warp scambles me and two shot's my industrial ship from 25k away.

What am I doing wrong? How do you play this game? I'd love to like it.. but at this rate its so incredibly new player unfriendly (and that's being kind) that I'm amazed anyone even bothered. I haven't even left noob island and I'm being harassed, robbed, and murdered by people in tech II ships that I don't even have a chance against.

Flame if you want, but keep in mind that new players are the lifeblood of MMO's. This kind of activity isn't in any way good.

Templar Knightsbane
Posted - 2011.09.09 12:55:00 - [2]

Originally by: Aayla Reyvar
I'm being harassed, robbed, and murdered by people in tech II ships that I don't even have a chance against.

This will never change. As soon as you have a fully fit Tech II ship, it will be carriers that can destroy you in seconds, once your in carriers then the Supercapitals can kill you.

Mining is the most boring and ass end way to make money in eve, especially for a new player, and yes the older pirates will look at your info, decide you are a totally new player and try do do their worst to you.

There are lots of avenues in eve, but rarely are they any good if you are all alone in New Eden.

May i suggest you apply to Eve University corporation, it has a large active user base with players of all standards giving advice and helping each other. Once you enter a Corporation that is focus'd on what you would really like to do in the game, you will find yourself with much more isk, and the strength that can come in numbers (but not always lol).

Mining is profitable but is slow and extremely boring, which is why these Mad Max style pirates just come and pinch your ore. I have not mined since the tutorial missions in Eve, and hate the task, even though some love it, mining may not be your real desire, maybe you'd like to scam people, or go running missions, or live in a wormhole and kill the sleeper sites. Look around, see what people are doing and get some advice from older players.

I will just also add that mining in Eve is not like mining in say, World of Warcraft, if you choose to mine you will need to dedicate a whole load of time to those skills, which for someone new to the game may really want to be in a small fleet learning how to PvP, which can be done extrmemly cheaply and can be sustained from running missions and salvaging.

Get a frigate or destroyer, or both, and start running missions for a corporation and grind and grind and soon you will be gettin nice isk from running the missions, a PLEX doesnt hurt to get some back up funds to begin, just stick to cheap Tech 1 hulls and mods until your are more skilled and can fit your ships etc.

Griefing is a part of Eve, and some players will always go out of their way to make your life torrid, but, this is also the richness of Eve, where as long as it falls within the normal game mechanics, it ok to do!!!

So, Capsuleer Aayla Reyvar, forgot the boringness that is mining, join Eve University and ask about learning to PVP and how to support yourself without mining, or mining with a fleet which makes it LOTS more profitable and ten times safer. Safety in numbers.

Pvp training will also teach you how to deal with hi sec griefers who decide to flip your cans, once a pirate flips your can, he can only shoot at your ship if you have shot at him 1st, this includes drones that are on aggressive setting so be careful of that, another way around this is to use password enabled cargo containers that you can purchase from any of the major trade hubs that will make it a lot less likely that anyone will bother to try and get your loot.

The other great thing about Eve is that you can add the guy who warp scrambled you for an hour and return the favour in time, and wave, and say REMEMBER ME YOU ****ING PRICK DIEE!!!!!!!! GO PVP!!!


Posted - 2011.09.09 13:01:00 - [3]

You can't engage somone in highsec (0.5 and above) without being at war with their corporation, having agression from them stealing from or shooting at you, or kill rights from them having unlawfully kill you recently. That being said you have probably been canfliped, otherwise concord would have destroyed them very shortly after they shot you.
When you pick up your ore make sure the can says its yours and don't Just click ok if a popup apears as its likly telling you that your about to steal. If they take your ore and put it in a can of their own the game now regonizes it as theirs, if you take it after that then you have stolen and can be shot.

And there are plenty of other things you can do with ony a few days skill ivestment, don't listen to people who say you need a year of skills to do anything, yes the skills help but in the end they are just tools to help you do things easier and things can be done without them.

Ruban Spangler
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.09.09 16:20:00 - [4]

Originally by: Templar Knightsbane
May i suggest you apply to Eve University corporation,

The quickest, most profitable and most fun way to learn is, as suggested, to look for a player corp that will teach new players the ropes.


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