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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
Posted - 2011.09.06 14:14:00 - [31]
 

Clone cost stops me doing silly t1 suicide roams, since my clone costs roughly 30 times more than the ships. Confused

As a result, I stick to lowsec, where I find nothing but... well, mainly nothing. Clone costs should be minimal, the real loss in pods should be down to implants, meaning if you want some no strings attached cheap fun, you can go get it, and all you harm is your precious k:d ratio.

Since its obvious everyone is so damn risk averse in this game that goodfights NEVER happen anymore, something needs to be done to bring back some FUN pewpew, instead of the seriousbusiness that has infected everyone.


AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.09.06 14:18:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: daddys helper


or don't warp to zero like a moron
When I said bubbles, I should have added the qualifier of "bubbles on entry gates."
of course many gates are bubbled in null (many are not), but honestly you are doing it wrong if you manage to fly into each and every one.

ffs, if you are going to spend time in dangerous places, set up perches and safes then the only bubble you need to worry about is the one on the other side of the gate


There are more ways to die then on a gate. You've never had a bubble dropped on you during a fight?

daddys helper
Posted - 2011.09.06 15:03:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: AnzacPaul
Originally by: daddys helper


or don't warp to zero like a moron
When I said bubbles, I should have added the qualifier of "bubbles on entry gates."
of course many gates are bubbled in null (many are not), but honestly you are doing it wrong if you manage to fly into each and every one.

ffs, if you are going to spend time in dangerous places, set up perches and safes then the only bubble you need to worry about is the one on the other side of the gate


There are more ways to die then on a gate. You've never had a bubble dropped on you during a fight?


plenty of times, and again its one of the instances where you have to suck it up and die like a good little chappie.

but the mere fact that it can and does happen does not dictate how I play.
and those who want to take the short cut and not have a dedicated PVP alt will pay the price of an expensive clone, that's life in the big city.

BUT EVEN THEN you still should not get podded so often it becomes a burdensome expense.
so someone drops a bubble on you
if its a hictor you can outrun it before you get popped
if its a dictor you can fly out of the bubble before you get popped

getting stuck in a ship-based bubble puts agro and GCC on the interdictor and that limits his options and makes his life a lot more intense when you are in a gang.

soooo many variables to go through before it even comes to where you need to start thinking about saving your pod.

Bottom line is you guys have "the fear"
that dark closet called null is full of all sorts of nasty monsters out to deprive you of your expensive toys and thats all you can see.
not the logic, not the reality, just "the fear"

in the last 6 months this board has been dipped and the tears of null dwellers lamenting the lack of population in null, and breaded in the coarse breading of the endless moaning about supercap blobs locking down 3/4 of the map.

and you people seem to think that every gate is r8pe caged with 20 bubbles and every ship you see is a 120mill hictor spearheading a 300 man fleet.

/shakes head

Nirnias Stirrum
Posted - 2011.09.06 15:06:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Nirnias Stirrum on 06/09/2011 15:07:34
Im a 2005 character and i can safely say that anyone playing for as long and longer than me, we know how to make isk so even the maximum 150misk for the clone isnt that much... granted you keep dieing in your pod thats not really anyones fault but your own! AS stated earlier only reason to die in pod is if ur inside a bubble! Granted if your pew pewing alot in the clone it all adds up, but fly properly and you wont land in bubbles :P

Ed Sullivan
Posted - 2011.09.06 16:29:00 - [35]
 

Normally I would tend to agree with you op, but considering the direction the game is heading, I must come out against anything that makes it less harsh.

Drakhar M'zan
Amarr
Posted - 2011.09.06 18:33:00 - [36]
 

Easy, make pods interdiction nullified, the only way to loose one is by smartbombs, superfast lockers, or stupidity.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.09.06 19:55:00 - [37]
 

in a 5mil clone ATM....
5mil clone is worth more than a t2 fitted rifter..makes short expendable pvp not an option never mind higher SP toons.

That said what are you flying with 75m SP that is not t2 or a battleship? Your ships costs a lot more that that when it explodes.

Linium
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.09.06 22:11:00 - [38]
 

I would get rid of clone updating altogether it adds nothing to the game.

Si Omega
Posted - 2011.09.06 22:30:00 - [39]
 

Quote:
I would get rid of clone updating altogether it adds nothing to the game.


This. I've seen (and done it) ppl lose 1000's of SP's by overlooking the clone update. It's purpose is what, to see if you can mess up yet another (but obscure) way?


Praia
Posted - 2011.09.07 01:05:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Linium
I would get rid of clone updating altogether it adds nothing to the game.


This!

Lelob
Posted - 2011.09.07 07:59:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Lelob on 07/09/2011 07:59:56
Originally by: Si Omega
Quote:
I would get rid of clone updating altogether it adds nothing to the game.


This. I've seen (and done it) ppl lose 1000's of SP's by overlooking the clone update. It's purpose is what, to see if you can mess up yet another (but obscure) way?




Agreed. The few times I've lost my clone it was because I was having so much fun that I completely forgot about doing such a silly thing as clone updating.

That, or depending on if it's a big enough isk sink, just make the clones cost dependent on the type of implants the char wants to plug in. That way, super pilots (for example) who want an edge and want hg slaves will have to pay for an expensive type of clone in order to insert the slaves. Someone who is out just looking for fun in a rifter without implants on the other hand pays nothing. If you don't pay for the clone, you don't get to put in the implants.

Dirty Addict
Posted - 2011.09.08 06:35:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Rodj Blake
Dying is meant to hurt.


+10

Anyone not remember what Eve it?
Its a game where everything you have owned and worked for ingame gets put on the line, dont dumb it down with cheaper clones!!!

Skinae
Hello Kitty Hug Patrol
Posted - 2011.09.08 08:05:00 - [43]
 

Ya lets make Titan pilots lifes easier.

Increase them imo.


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