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Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:29:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Trust me, Europeans care about American politics. Last I checked, most of them know about a previously obscure hockey-mom governor named Sarah Palin.

Its Americans that don't give a crap about European politics, and proudly couldn't name a single EU head of state.

It's the same reason people slow down while passing a traffic accident, something fascinating about such events.



Well, unfortunately, as America goes so does the rest of the world in this global economy. Listen carefully at your window... I bet you will hear tires screeching...

Herr Wilkus
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:32:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
Originally by: Herr Wilkus


Its Americans that don't give a crap about European politics, and proudly couldn't name a single EU head of state.


Margaret Thatcher Cool


Too bad Thatcher wasn't in charge during those riots. I like to think she would have had tanks on the streets within 30 minutes.

On the other hand, that Italian leader is pretty kool. I didn't know what a bunga-bunga party was before. Actually I still don't know what it is, but that chick in the police officer outfit was pretty hot.

Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:35:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Cadet Wiggin
Lol at the OP.
You think either pandering Perry or Homophobe Bachmann are electable?
Rolling Eyes







"Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument, but can also involve pointing out factual but apparent character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument.

This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions."

Ad Homi-ninja? Razz

Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:40:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Actually I still don't know what it is, but that chick in the police officer outfit was pretty hot.


Was that Ruby the Heart Stealer? Didn't see the pics, but heard about the "scandal".

F.Y.I. Eve Online is a known Bunga-Bunga preventative...I think we are all safe from scandal here Embarassed

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:40:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
Originally by: Cadet Wiggin
Lol at the OP.
You think either pandering Perry or Homophobe Bachmann are electable?
Rolling Eyes



"Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument, but can also involve pointing out factual but apparent character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument.

This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions."

Ad Homi-ninja? Razz

There are arguments made by the republican potential candidates that are good, and I somewhat agree with (fiscal responsibility, ect). However, much as I may agree with these arguments, many facets of these candidates social views I find offensive in the extreme (notably views on homosexuality being an abomination, an outdated viewpoint in a country where the majority of the population believes gays deserve equal rights.) While they make good points, other aspects of their political stances ensure that I (and a good portion of independents) would never vote for them.

Simply put, it's not their economic policies that are un-electable, but their social ones.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:41:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Mr Kidd on 06/09/2011 02:41:01
Quote:
Hitlmar and Obama: Both going down in flames


Reported for making threats of physical harm.

Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:47:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Discrodia
Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
Originally by: Cadet Wiggin
Lol at the OP.
You think either pandering Perry or Homophobe Bachmann are electable?
Rolling Eyes



"Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument, but can also involve pointing out factual but apparent character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument.

This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions."

Ad Homi-ninja? Razz

There are arguments made by the republican potential candidates that are good, and I somewhat agree with (fiscal responsibility, ect). However, much as I may agree with these arguments, many facets of these candidates social views I find offensive in the extreme (notably views on homosexuality being an abomination, an outdated viewpoint in a country where the majority of the population believes gays deserve equal rights.) While they make good points, other aspects of their political stances ensure that I (and a good portion of independents) would never vote for them.

Simply put, it's not their economic policies that are un-electable, but their social ones.


2012 in America will be all about the fiscal, from what I have seen from looking at polls etc. For better or worse people vote their wallet.

As far as homosexuality...its here to stay...better get with the program people!!!!!

Herr Wilkus
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:56:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Actually I still don't know what it is, but that chick in the police officer outfit was pretty hot.


Was that Ruby the Heart Stealer? Didn't see the pics, but heard about the "scandal".

F.Y.I. Eve Online is a known Bunga-Bunga preventative...I think we are all safe from scandal here Embarassed


No, guess it wasn't Ruby - according to the Telegraph, its someone else. That picture is all I really remember from the scandal.

Really puts 'ol Clinton in his place, though. Laughing

Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.09.06 02:59:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza

The whole crisis was caused because republicans refused to balance the budget by raising taxes or cut spending to America's biggest expenditures (medicare, military) out of fear of the extremist segment of their constituency.


The only thing extreme is your ignorance...

In America:

Social entitlements= Democrat's "sacred cow"

Military= Republican's "sacred cow"

I wont take a position politically in this debate (reminder: this is a space ship game forum)but I can't abide abject stupidity...sorry...


Gevlin
Minmatar
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:01:00 - [40]
 

Interesting use of words.
Honestly in regards to CCP - I think it is the bitter vets who are going to be the down fall of Eve. Group Think multiplied by the Trolls who look for their time in the lime light by shooting down others.

No New Ships till 18 Months. This is a Level headed statement. Unlike other MMOs, CCP want the current ships to remain useful and obsolete because of the last expansion.

Watch what they do vs what they say - Meant to be an internal memo - a level headed response to- Eve is more vocal than other people and are easily excited. Some people have strong opinions and have burnt out from the game. Instead of moving on they want to make unfocused changes, some who are no longer even relavent.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:02:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Sader Rykane on 06/09/2011 03:02:17
Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
take a position on the OP but I would love to know where the racism comes in...please explain for those of us that don't speak your particular dialect.

Was it the term "black vote" or "affirmative action" that put it over the top in your mind? Is any time you speak of the American president in negative terms, because he is black, racism?

If American blacks condemn a white American president is it also racism? Does political affiliation matter? What happens if a white leftist speaks ill of a black conservative? What if it is left on left or right on right?!?! Shocked

Explain please...


Quote:
He can't win an election on the black vote alone.


Quote:
an unqualified 'affirmative action'


What more do you need really?

He didn't just speak negatively of a President, he BLATANTLY brought race into the discussion. What other possible legitimate reason could he have for saying it? The rest of his criticisms were purely political and entirely acceptable, whether one agrees with them or not, he was the one who brought up color.

Are you naive enough to think that racism just suddenly disappeared because MLK said "I have a dream."?

Henry Haphorn
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:06:00 - [42]
 

I'm surprised the moderators haven't locked this thread yet. Don't most forums have rules against posting politically-motivated threads?

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr
Divine Power.
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:08:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
I wont take a position politically in this debate (reminder: this is a space ship game forum)but I can't abide abject stupidity...sorry...
"I can't abide abject stupidity, now listen to my insipid reduction of the American political system to a two sentence generalization"

thanks bro, good contribution

Herr Wilkus
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:18:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Discrodia

There are arguments made by the republican potential candidates that are good, and I somewhat agree with (fiscal responsibility, ect). However, much as I may agree with these arguments, many facets of these candidates social views I find offensive in the extreme (notably views on homosexuality being an abomination, an outdated viewpoint in a country where the majority of the population believes gays deserve equal rights.) While they make good points, other aspects of their political stances ensure that I (and a good portion of independents) would never vote for them.

Simply put, it's not their economic policies that are un-electable, but their social ones.


Interesting. As it is the economic policies that are invariably going to have the greatest effect on your life. I like having a job, do you? I like low taxes. I liked not having to take annoying 'green activists' seriously, just walk away and leave them to their hacky-sacks and dreads.

Gay marriage, eh, one way or the other, doesn't affect me. Energy policy does. Over-regulation of resource extraction industry does.

William Buckley Jr. wrote a great column many years ago. Effectively, he said that even if liberals WORST fears about social conservatives like Pat Robertson came true - IE, not only elected but also able to unilaterally set policy - we'd likely end up with a country that isn't all that much different than 1950's America...which, minus Jim Crow, wasn't all that bad.

Worst I can think of? Blue laws might make a comeback. Prayer in schools. Restriction on the sale and distribution of pron. Abortion and gay marriage would be out.

YAWN, pretty tame stuff if you ask me, hardly worth all the panic, and I'm hardly a 'social conservative'.

Socialists like Obama, if they were allowed to have their way... (ie, have the Tea Partiers rounded up and disposed of) - want to radically change the economy of the country, 'spread the wealth' - lead us away from individual liberty/responsibility - and towards collective salvation. Screw that noise.

Tyraeil
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:20:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Herr Wilkus

God bless Amurika. Those damn demos took my jurb!



Bro, we get it, you got laid off and all you have left is Eve to play. Get mad some more.

*goes and gets more popcorn*

Laughing

Herr Wilkus
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:21:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Henry Haphorn
I'm surprised the moderators haven't locked this thread yet. Don't most forums have rules against posting politically-motivated threads?


I'd kind of half expected this forum to be closed down hours ago. Guess CCP fails yet again. Whenever you think your standards for quality are low....just wait, they'll fall further.

Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:24:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Sader Rykane


He didn't just speak negatively of a President, he BLATANTLY brought race into the discussion. What other possible legitimate reason could he have for saying it? The rest of his criticisms were purely political and entirely acceptable, whether one agrees with them or not, he was the one who brought up color.

Are you naive enough to think that racism just suddenly disappeared because MLK said "I have a dream."?



Racism does exist and it can be a terrible and violent situation (whatever race it effects). The term is cheapened by overuse.

Originally by: Sader Rykane
he BLATANTLY brought race into the discussion
Originally by: Sader Rykane


Originally by: Sader Rykane
he was the one who brought up color
Originally by: Sader Rykane


"Black Vote" describes a voting demographic...

It is similar to referring to the ...white vote...women's vote...Jewish vote...hispanic vote...union vote...goon vote...gay,lesbian and transgender vote...

I think you have to dig a little more to justify the "racist" accusation...just my opinion.










Herr Wilkus
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:28:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Tyraeil
Originally by: Herr Wilkus

God bless Amurika. Those damn demos took my jurb!



Bro, we get it, you got laid off and all you have left is Eve to play. Get mad some more.

*goes and gets more popcorn*

Laughing


LOL. Wrong, its Labor day. First time I've had two consecutive days off since 4th of July. But don't you worry, still employed, working 80-90+ hours a week. I do more before 8AM than you do all day.

Why do I do it? Simple, millions of Obama voters are relying on me for their welfare checks and food stamps. Would hate to see them starve. Rolling Eyes

Brenya Perircle
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:32:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Brenya Perircle on 06/09/2011 03:32:20
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Originally by: Tyraeil
Originally by: Herr Wilkus

God bless Amurika. Those damn demos took my jurb!



Bro, we get it, you got laid off and all you have left is Eve to play. Get mad some more.

*goes and gets more popcorn*

Laughing


LOL. Wrong, its Labor day. First time I've had two consecutive days off since 4th of July. But don't you worry, still employed, working 80-90+ hours a week. I do more before 8AM than you do all day.

Why do I do it? Simple, millions of Obama voters are relying on me for their welfare checks and food stamps. Would hate to see them starve. Rolling Eyes


If you work for the post office, I heard they wanted to fire 200k of you guys.

Herr Wilkus
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:38:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Brenya Perircle


If you work for the post office, I heard they wanted to fire 200k of you guys.


That would be a crying shame.
Would hate for Newman to be out of work.

It never stops!!!

Apocryphal Noise
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:39:00 - [51]
 

gas thread ban op

Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:43:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
I wont take a position politically in this debate (reminder: this is a space ship game forum)but I can't abide abject stupidity...sorry...
"I can't abide abject stupidity, now listen to my insipid reduction of the American political system to a two sentence generalization"

thanks bro, good contribution


The only thing reduced here was my estimate of your IQ. Please continue to illumine us with your analysis of American politics. You managed to get just about everything incorrect in such a limited amount of space, I would love to see what you could do with a treatise.

Do continue I think the moderators have the night off... Twisted Evil


Henry Haphorn
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:48:00 - [53]
 

I guess if I still have time before the lock, I may as well take advantage to post my two ISK.

1. Republicans suck ass.
2. Democrats suck balls.
3. Neither sucking ass nor sucking balls is a good position to be in.
4. Whenever the R's and the D's face stiff competition from the I's, they do everything they can to prevent the I's from succeeding. Kind of like how Microsoft and Apple are reacting towards Google.
5. The two-party monopoly of the political system should end. The same goes for the monopoly held by the NC and DRF.

There, got that off my chest.

Bklyn 1
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:49:00 - [54]
 

Confirming that Obama is terribad. Probably the worst president in my lifetime. I know you Europeans out there like him because he's running the US into the ground, thus making the EU more powerful and so on, but for those of us whose quality of life is visibly worse because of his policies, we've had enough of him.

Also confirming that this thread probably does not belong in GD.

Herr Wilkus
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:53:00 - [55]
 

I'm not opposed to a third party.

Nothing would make me happier than to see the Green Party grow some balls and start running more of their own candidates in the general elections.

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr
Divine Power.
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:55:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
I wont take a position politically in this debate (reminder: this is a space ship game forum)but I can't abide abject stupidity...sorry...
"I can't abide abject stupidity, now listen to my insipid reduction of the American political system to a two sentence generalization"

thanks bro, good contribution


The only thing reduced here was my estimate of your IQ. Please continue to illumine us with your analysis of American politics.
It seems rather wasted on illiterates such as yourself.

Shorty Life
Posted - 2011.09.06 04:04:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Edited by: Herr Wilkus on 05/09/2011 23:36:38
While the organizations they run vary in size and scope, their autocratic leadership styles since 2009 are quite similar, and are leading to similar results. Massive FAIL in 2012. Both leaders equally deluded about the future. Shocked

Obamacare: "This new socialized medicine system will be awesome. Everyone will be covered, but don't worry, if you are a bitter clinger that likes your current health care plan, you can keep it." (LOL)

Incarna: "This is going to be the total sci-fi package. Rumors of MT are overstated. No plans for non-vanity MT"

Obamacare: You'll love it so much that failure to participate could land you in jail for up to 5 years. US Constitution? Supreme Court? What, me worry?

Incarna: You'l... Confused


When Politics and EVE ride in the same cart, the whirlwind follows.

Herr Wilkus
Posted - 2011.09.06 04:06:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Bklyn 1
Confirming that Obama is terribad. Probably the worst president in my lifetime. I know you Europeans out there like him because he's running the US into the ground, thus making the EU more powerful and so on, but for those of us whose quality of life is visibly worse because of his policies, we've had enough of him.

Also confirming that this thread probably does not belong in GD.


THIS.

Somewhat worried that 'Zero'bama is going to go 'scorched earth' on the US Economy, once he realizes that he has NO chance of re-election. New insane enviro regs like mandating truck fuel efficiency at 55 MPG (I mean, why not mandate cars run on unicorn farts, for crying out loud) printing billions more dollars and calling it QE3. Amnesty for illegal immigrants via executive order. I mean, who knows how far down the rabbit hole goes?

and, yeah. I mostly expected this forum to be frozen by now, but leave it to CCP to fail to keep its promises.

Kno Bodeesbitch
Posted - 2011.09.06 04:07:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Originally by: Kno Bodees*****
I wont take a position politically in this debate (reminder: this is a space ship game forum)but I can't abide abject stupidity...sorry...
"I can't abide abject stupidity, now listen to my insipid reduction of the American political system to a two sentence generalization"

thanks bro, good contribution


The only thing reduced here was my estimate of your IQ. Please continue to illumine us with your analysis of American politics.
It seems rather wasted on illiterates such as yourself.



illumine [ɪˈluːmɪn]
vb
a literary word for illuminate
[from Latin illūmināre to make light; see illuminate]
illuminable adj

I want to tell you that you just proved my original statement concerning your "abject stupidity" and then say something about giving you enough rope...blah blah blah...but I don't want to hurt your feelings anymore so I am just going to keep those feelings on the inside.

Instead I will bow out gracefully and tell you that you won.

Nicolo...I'm sorry..you were right all along. Good night.

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr
Divine Power.
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.09.06 04:13:00 - [60]
 

Thanks for conceding defeat gracefully, be sure to consult a dictionary before you post next time.


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