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Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:28:00 - [1]
 

CCP isnt gonna listen to them OR us. Hilmar made THAT clear
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Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say

Mittens is trying to declare war on CCP.

Hell were I CCP an a group of players made by my company started getting uppity, ID sure as hell disband them, especially as they have no real power anyways

CCP has in the past dropped changed into the game without discussing it with them first (to which they qqed and whined just as loudly as anyone here at any time) and it shows how little they really respect the group.

The ONLY reason CCP hasnt dropped the CSM minutes regardless of how the CSM feels I think is cause they realize that regardless of the "tone" the minutes will paint them in a bad way. I fully dont expect to see the minutes until either everyone has forgotten about them or until everyone that remembers then is gone (if ever).

So why do we still have this useless group of people flying to Iceland to drink beer and buddy-buddy up with CCP?

Cedar Locus
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:34:00 - [2]
 

good point

obviously it's just a ploy to give players the illusion of having a voice.

Andrea Griffin
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:35:00 - [3]
 

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Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say
Can you blame them? Who cares what people say? People always say one thing and do another. Words mean crap unless there is action behind them.

Besides, CCP is a business. If what they do keeps the player base the same size or growing then as far as they're concerned they made the right business decision.

So if you say you're going to quit and then you subscribe for another month anyway, well... Then obviously there's good reason not to listen to what you say.

Say what you mean, mean what you say, and don't be a hypocrite. If you say that you're going to quit, then quit. Go join the rest of the New Eden Exiles in PO (which is quite fun) or something else entirely.

Hell. Read a book.

Jenshae Chiroptera
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:38:00 - [4]
 

So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?

Cedar Locus
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:41:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Cedar Locus on 05/09/2011 17:41:12
@andrea

QQ the player base isn't growing...

by far the most players in eve are alts.

AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:50:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
So why do we still have this useless group of people flying to Iceland to drink beer and buddy-buddy up with CCP?


It's one thing to be vocal about something, it's another to actually put your face out there and stand up for something you believe in.

At least they are actually trying to stand for something, whether or not it has the desired effect is another matter.

in b4 the move to csm forum?

Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:50:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 05/09/2011 17:52:27
Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 05/09/2011 17:51:26
Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera
So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?


Just a PR scam from everything Ive seen of them
as soon as they get ****y about something theyve been shown they get slapped with the NDA so they cant rage about it.

Originally by: AlleyKat
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
So why do we still have this useless group of people flying to Iceland to drink beer and buddy-buddy up with CCP?


It's one thing to be vocal about something, it's another to actually put your face out there and stand up for something you believe in.



Yeah cause Mittens does exactly that.... wheres that "in defense of icarna" thread

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:55:00 - [8]
 

u mad

Takamori Maruyama
Amarr
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:56:00 - [9]
 

Mother of God people vomiting **** everywhere.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 18:04:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Takamori Maruyama
Mother of God people vomiting **** everywhere.



a good example of this is quoted

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.09.05 18:12:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera
So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?


Originated as a scape goat for CCP PR after being caught cheating. What it evolved into after that is questionable.

Kengutsi Akira
Posted - 2011.09.05 18:19:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera
So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?


Originated as a scape goat for CCP PR after being caught cheating. What it evolved into after that is questionable.


lol such a lofty goal, anything forming from such a pure hearted ideal must be good right?

(yeah thats sarcasm)

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.09.05 18:24:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera
So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?


Originated as a scape goat for CCP PR after being caught cheating. What it evolved into after that is questionable.


lol such a lofty goal, anything forming from such a pure hearted ideal must be good right?

(yeah thats sarcasm)


I was going to post a real world analogy, but it would invariably evolve into religion/politics. I cant deal with that right now.

Im just saying its possible to bring something positive out of it.

Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.05 20:38:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
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Im just saying its possible to bring something positive out of it.


Im saying it WOULD have been possible, had they not elected ppl to it who blantantlt want to destroy the (your) game

Andrea Griffin
Posted - 2011.09.05 23:35:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Cedar Locus
Edited by: Cedar Locus on 05/09/2011 17:41:12
@andrea

QQ the player base isn't growing...
I never said that it was; I said if. I know, as well as you do, that a small but significant chunk of players have left in the past few months.


 

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