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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:05:00 - [1]

Since I started some months ago I've been cross training races before I decide who I want, I can fly all BC's and BS's atm and doing Level 4 missions just to get some cash up.

But I don't know what route to take, I want to do ...well, everything :p join a corp, be useful in PvP while having a decent enough ship to cruise through PvE when I want time to myself. So, I am guessing a strategic cruiser would be the best bet, but again, lost who to go..

people say proteus is PvP and tengu PvE but what ship is best at BOTH those aspects, can it do wormholes? can it explore?

I hate rail guns though, and most of my skills are more directed in drones and gallente and I have a little too few in missiles.

I tried to cross train so I could choose and not regret, but months in, I'm still unable to pick something

Twilight Star Rangers
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:14:00 - [2]

Until you decide what you want to do - you won't be able to select the best ship to do it in.

Given that you can fiddle in just about everything and are months in as you say I'd suggest the following:

1) Focus on core skills - fitting, capacitor, tanking, navigation, targeting etc - these will be useful in just about all situations.

2) Try out more things - what have you done so far and what haven't you? Try out PVP (get a pile of rifters) try out explorations - try sneaking around wormholes, lowsec and nullsec.

Find what you like most and go for it - don't compromise along the way. Focus!

Thorian Baalnorn
Posted - 2011.09.05 17:36:00 - [3]

The problem is you want a ship that does everything well(or the best ship for both as you put it). Eve is not about flying one ship for EVERYTHING, its about flying ships customized to do certain task well( well usually) while doing other poorly. You are going to find yourself struggling if you try to do everything with the same ship.That said the best jack of all trades ships would be the T3s and the tengu is the probably the best of those for doing both pvp and pve in the same ship.

Posted - 2011.09.05 17:39:00 - [4]

The best way for me to really focus is for me to find a ship that I really want to fly well and then train for that. Say, for a Sleipnir, f.ex, than I would say, ok, I need Med.Proj's to V, Med AC Spec to IV, then my shield skills...

Best way to train overall imo is to train the core skills up first then remap to perception/willpower and go down the list of ships.

Just remember that over the long run, running drones is dps-limited. Also, try not to shoehorn one ship into a jack of all trades master of none ship, and train for 2 ships that are top of their class in their way.

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.09.05 19:05:00 - [5]

If you are just starting out in PvP, then what's most important is picking a ship that you can afford to sacrifice in return for experience.

That means it needs to be something that you can buy a stack of 10-20 of, including fittings, and go into combat knowing that losing is not the end of the world, and that trading a 'loss' for 'combat experience' is valuable.

As such, I'd say never ever start learning to PvP in T3s. They're too expensive, they're blob magnets, and they cost you sps when you die.

(And die you will - there's two kinds of combat pilot. Those that have died lots, and those that are going to die lots).

I'd say the largest ship you should therefore start in, is T1 cruisers. Maybe battlecruisers at a stretch, because despite being a bit more sluggish and heavy, BCs are probably one of the best examples of price for performance at the moment.

T2 frigates if you feel more comfortable, but only if you're a happy frigate pilot (I never was, and despite their low theoretical skill level, being good in a frig is actually more intensive in 'real world' skills).

Find a cruiser or BC you like. Find a PVp fit, and then buy 5 of them. And go and get yourself killed a few times, and learn the ropes.

Uppsy Daisy
Deteis Industries
Posted - 2011.09.05 19:41:00 - [6]

Originally by: James Lyrus
good sense

Wise words above.

Grab a load of Vexors/Thorax cruisers both are good, join a nice corp, have some fun.


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