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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.09.06 12:50:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn

Remember that it was never the intention for people to actually live in w-space. You can expect that "removal of hisec ice will lead to decimation of permanent w-space habitation" is seen as a good thing.



What may have been intended, however, is irrelevant to what now is. There's a thriving wormhole community out there living a life that null-sec could only dream of being again. It's the last frontier of Eve, and like all frontiers, they do eventually get colonized. Wormholes are the last bastion of small to mid-level combats, independent living without a mega-alliance trying to control every aspect of your life, no supercaps, make your own rules and your own way, keep what you can hold and take what others can't. Perhaps completely by accident, they've created something great in Eve with wormholes and it's probably time they stepped back and took a real look at what's happening now, actually in the game, instead of what someone may have once thought it would be.

Besides, I don't buy that... just the logistics alone make it nearly impossible to run C5 and C6 wormholes without setting up a permanent residence. If they weren't designed to be lived in, you'd have little to no T3 production. The logistics require a permanent presense.

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.09.06 13:05:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn

Remember that it was never the intention for people to actually live in w-space. You can expect that "removal of hisec ice will lead to decimation of permanent w-space habitation" is seen as a good thing.




To me this clearly interprets as

"People that don't have access to the nex store, how can we get them back to station".


Ineka
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.09.06 15:24:00 - [63]
 

So, removing ice from high sec is overall better for the game?

Sry if I have hard time understanding but seems some people say that ice is mined by bots (really?-when everyone in this game knows all the big alliances are full of them? -lols)

Then people thinking it's better to improve null sec...how? -raising prices for null sec ice miners? -you'd be better to find ways so those alliances don't rent space for billions and those miners will have better income.

Repercussions if it's done will be heavy, very heavy imho. And those will most likely profit for the same old RMT's than the number of subs. Just an opinion.

Emperor Salazar
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.09.06 21:24:00 - [64]
 

I hope so.

LuxLight
Posted - 2011.09.06 23:51:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: LuxLight on 06/09/2011 23:51:13
Originally by: Sir Ibex
Cause seriously.. This would be the last drop...

'Cause seriously, that would be AWESOME.

Nuke ice. Put it in low sec only. Make it pop.

Total win.

Whiteknight03
WESAYSO Industries
Posted - 2011.09.07 03:30:00 - [66]
 

A direct answer from CCP on an important issue? I'm impressed.

Bane Nucleus
Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2011.09.07 04:29:00 - [67]
 

It's a simple solution really. Make ice only spawn in grav sites, that have to be scanned down. Also, make it to where these grav sites spawn in high, low, null, and wh space.

That way everyone gets a shot at it, no matter where you live.

Cynthiana
Posted - 2011.09.09 15:54:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
We are still looking into the option of altering the ice distribution in EVE, but it's not planned for any release at this point.



As you should be aware, we get our fuel pretty much from high sec while hauling things to market. Stuff goes out, fuel comes back on the return trip. Screw with the prices too badly and a lot of smaller wh corps will strugle to survive, and those making T3 products will need to jack up the cost of T3 items considerably to make up the lost income.


T3 production requires a colony. The colony requires ice, mainly from HS. I agree with Ingvar whole heartedly. Remove HS ice and you'll be removing WH colonies, therefore your T3 production will grind to a snails pace creating extreme high prices for a T3 ship. Only the richest of people will be able to own them.

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This is far greater than a simple "Gee, we'll get more people into null this way" thing. First of all... no, you won't. People won't go to null to mine ice. They're already not in null simply because they don't want to be. It doesn't appeal to many... screwing the community over won't change that.



I certainly won't go to null sec, and neither will just about everyone in my corp! We have our corp/alliance because we DON'T want null sec anymore. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. It's not what we want from the game. Screw with my game too much and I'll take my $$$ for annual fees to another game.

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Look, we all know Eve is meant to be a sandbox style game. Keep in mind, you keep taking the sand away and you'll find no one wants to play in your empty box anymore.


If I don't have sand anymore I'll go mine my own...in another game :) My main toon is +4 old and still training. I could easily buy plex now every month, but I pay annual because I enjoy Eve that much (and keeping the isk). I'll say it again, Screw with my game too much and I'll take my $$$ somewhere else. If I had to guess, I am fairly certain my entire corp and alliance would to.

I certainly will NOT be going back to null sec!





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