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Natagia Gunganator
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:27:00 - [1]
 

The numbers never lie. And this says it all.

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When the trend is usually an increase in log in's, one can only assume when there isn't it was a failure.

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:34:00 - [2]
 


Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:28:00 - [3]
 

Yes, the trend is clearly visible, even more so on all time graph. Eve is in real mess atm. Partly it's Incarna (which is the best expansion ever, according to CCP), partly other things, like dying 0.0 political game as one superbehemoth slowly killing off everything non-blue in the null-sec. I guess by Christmas we'll know for sure if Eve had just a cold or is it terminally ill.

Cadburys Creamegg
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:00:00 - [4]
 

See I Knew it, it's because EVE has lost it soft creamie center. Good job I have enough to go round :P

Kogh Ayon
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:08:00 - [5]
 

Look at the triple increasement from 2006, it is reasonable that the CCP might just feel satisfied with the current situation.

flashmek
PWNED Factor
The Seventh Day
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:11:00 - [6]
 

eventually they may hold everything but just like what happened to BOB a few years back we all thought the same ...... then people get together and bash them back.

let the game play, enjoy urself and dont worry lmao

Generals4
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:13:00 - [7]
 

oh it's this topic again.

The posting of charts to "prove" incarna was a bad x-pac is so last month.

Cadburys Creamegg
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:15:00 - [8]
 

In fairness last month was too soon to really tell, what with everyone giving away their stuff.

Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:16:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Generals4
oh it's this topic again.

The posting of charts to "prove" incarna was a bad x-pac is so last month.



and the usual factless retort trying to disprove numbers.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:18:00 - [10]
 

People who attempt to discredit facts with an opinion should be running for office in Alaska not posting on the Eve forum. Seriously... the chart doesn't lie, those are real numbers and you have to be a moron not to reckognize that the games population is on a downward spiral.

Its a sad state of affairs, I hope CCP takes it seriously.

Ramalamadindong
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:24:00 - [11]
 

In B4 Forum Worrier and Admiral Spreadsheet.

Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:25:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Mors Magne on 05/09/2011 11:29:07

To be fair to CCP, Incarna is a big step forward in terms of technology. However, it needs further rooms to have a significant impact on us. Hopefully, that's coming with the next expansion.

If it doesn't though, I think that's when the sh!t really will hit the fan. People will seriously ask what has CCP been doing to further Eve. - i.e. do they even care about Eve any more?

The big question is, are CCP moving on from Eve to Dust/WoD. Obviously, I really hope not - I've invested a lot into Eve.

Cedar Locus
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:25:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Cedar Locus on 05/09/2011 11:26:38
sauce

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:26:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 05/09/2011 11:28:19

The all-time chart is arranged chronologically from right to left for some reason. The trend shows an almost constant uptick in users since 2006, not a decline. It does appear to have been leveling out since late 2009, but the increase in users would be even clearer if the chart went back to launch.

Cedar Locus
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:29:00 - [15]
 

:( i hoped it would be over sooner

illirdor
Gallente
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:29:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Thornat
People who attempt to discredit facts with an opinion should be running for office in Alaska not posting on the Eve forum. Seriously... the chart doesn't lie, those are real numbers and you have to be a moron not to reckognize that the games population is on a downward spiral.

Its a sad state of affairs, I hope CCP takes it seriously.


LoL right !!! i hope that was just a joke !

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Kogh Ayon
Look at the triple increasement from 2006, it is reasonable that the CCP might just feel satisfied with the current situation.
Doubt it, since the current situation is that the game has flatlined for the last two years.

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:31:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 05/09/2011 11:28:19

The all-time chart is arranged chronologically from right to left for some reason. The trend shows an almost constant uptick in users since 2006, not a decline. It does appear to have been leveling out since late 2009, but the increase in users would be even clearer if the chart went back to launch.


As far as the eve-offline chart that is true. However near the end is showing a steady decline. Its too soon to really tell if that will be a consistent decline or leveling off. The range is too wide to really tell. However when looking at shorter term graphs and numbers it is showing a leveling off and slight decline. Like I said it might be too soon to tell and once winter rolls around will really show where things are heading.

Generals4
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:34:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Generals4 on 05/09/2011 11:34:39
Originally by: Trolls Troll
Originally by: Generals4
oh it's this topic again.

The posting of charts to "prove" incarna was a bad x-pac is so last month.



and the usual factless retort trying to disprove numbers.


Who is trying to disprove what here? I know it's futile to attempt to communicate with a troll forum alt but i'm simply tired of seeing the same topic pop up all the time. So what, the charts show this or that? It has been posted countless times and repeating it won't change jack ****.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:35:00 - [20]
 

I'd like to see actual subscription numbers, but it seems CCP has deemed this a need to know figure and we don't need to know.

Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:35:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Natagia Gunganator
The numbers lie when the graphs are not zero'd. And this says it all.


FYP

Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:36:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Kogh Ayon
Look at the triple increasement from 2006, it is reasonable that the CCP might just feel satisfied with the current situation.
Doubt it, since the current situation is that the game has flatlined for the last two years.


I agree - it looks as if Eve is on a plateau.

I don't think this is good - it's like a vote that says Eve is mediocre.

I think the problem is that CCP have one cash stream (Eve) and three games to fund (Eve, Dust, and WoD).

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:36:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Mag's
I'd like to see actual subscription numbers, but it seems CCP has deemed this a need to know figure and we don't need to know.


It would be interesting to know. However CCP decided to stopping doing the QENs which usually had that information. Odd timing on that decision.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 12:27:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Mag's
I'd like to see actual subscription numbers, but it seems CCP has deemed this a need to know figure and we don't need to know.


It would be interesting to know. However CCP decided to stopping doing the QENs which usually had that information. Odd timing on that decision.


Nothing odd about it. You post the numbers when your doing well, you don't post them when your not. Its kind of like gambling in that way. When your winning your bragging, when your loosing, you say nothing. Gives the impression that your always winning.

Ava n'Daara
Posted - 2011.09.05 13:11:00 - [25]
 

I'm curious what the 7-day dots will look like over the first couple weeks of the Diablo 3 launch.. most especially launch day. And how quickly, if much at all, they recover.

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
Posted - 2011.09.05 13:34:00 - [26]
 

I have a feeling that quite a lot of ppl are waiting when some cool game is released to dump Eve or to go partially inactive. CCP should pay attention or the cash cow will starve and die and vampires may die with it too.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 13:45:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Estephania
I have a feeling that quite a lot of ppl are waiting when some cool game is released to dump Eve or to go partially inactive. CCP should pay attention or the cash cow will starve and die and vampires may die with it too.


I personally would have never believed something like that was possible 3 months ago, but now I'm not so sure. Things are different now. Eve is in some kind of wierd new flux. Its trendy to leave Eve now and I don't need a chart to tell me that the playing population in Eve has very noticeably diminished and continues to do so more and more each day. I mean hell it was a ghost town this weekend.

baltec1
Posted - 2011.09.05 13:52:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Mors Magne
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Kogh Ayon
Look at the triple increasement from 2006, it is reasonable that the CCP might just feel satisfied with the current situation.
Doubt it, since the current situation is that the game has flatlined for the last two years.


I agree - it looks as if Eve is on a plateau.

I don't think this is good - it's like a vote that says Eve is mediocre.

I think the problem is that CCP have one cash stream (Eve) and three games to fund (Eve, Dust, and WoD).


Or its the result of the RL economic situation going south.

Natagia Gunganator
Posted - 2011.09.05 19:01:00 - [29]
 

There is of course another possible reason, although I think its unlikely. The chance there is a large number of long skill trainers, that are otherwise inactive. However that's probably just Me wishful thinking as I don't want EVE to ever go away.

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
Posted - 2011.09.05 19:54:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Estephania
I have a feeling that quite a lot of ppl are waiting when some cool game is released to dump Eve or to go partially inactive. CCP should pay attention or the cash cow will starve and die and vampires may die with it too.


Personally, I will give a look at X Rebirth when it launches. Though not online, the X series are serious cool games. Cool


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