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Martin Skorn
Posted - 2011.09.05 02:26:00 - [1]
 

EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off, and they could keep MT's without much complaint. Then they can make a complete and finished expansion or two each year and charge for those individually. For example, if someone wants to opt out of Incarna they simply don't have to purchase it.

It makes sense to me, although they would need to work out the unlimited alts situation that would inevitably arise...


Nemesis Factor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.09.05 02:28:00 - [2]
 

Do we really want an inbred ****** post like this to be archived on the front page forever when these forums get frozen in carbonite? Do everyone a favor and keep your stupid mouth shut until the new forums come out. Your opinions are WRONG.

~love Nemesis

Sarmatiko
Posted - 2011.09.05 02:31:00 - [3]
 

Jumping in Jita system...
Error
You dont have enough Aurum on your character
Peace off hobo without premium

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 02:52:00 - [4]
 


[tinfoil]
Kinda wondering if the NeX store and them not giving a real **** if ppl leave wasnt their way of softening up the player base of the people that would ***** if the game DID to F2P
[/tinfoil]

Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
Posted - 2011.09.05 02:55:00 - [5]
 

Troll?

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 03:16:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Troll?


joke? Hence the /tilfoil thing?


Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr
Iure Divino
Posted - 2011.09.05 03:27:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Troll?


joke? Hence the /tilfoil thing?




Not you, the OP Neutral

Simetraz
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:57:00 - [8]
 

You want F2P

Buy a Plex, there you go, it won't cost you another penny.


Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 05:01:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Troll?


joke? Hence the /tilfoil thing?




Not you, the OP Neutral


oops lol
my bad

TharOkha
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:26:00 - [10]
 

There should be f2p. And its already prepared. Trial account. There is only need to remove 14 day limitation and its done. f2p would have limitation in skill books, just like trial today.

Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:31:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: TharOkha
There should be f2p. And its already prepared. Trial account. There is only need to remove 14 day limitation and its done. f2p would have limitation in skill books, just like trial today.


an you pay real money to get non trial nooks... what? They do something like that in DDO and the quest buy system

and in case youre gonna accuse me of the tinfoil thing, I heard of this idea first in the "greed is good" memo

TharOkha
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:57:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
Originally by: TharOkha
There should be f2p. And its already prepared. Trial account. There is only need to remove 14 day limitation and its done. f2p would have limitation in skill books, just like trial today.


an you pay real money to get non trial nooks... what? They do something like that in DDO and the quest buy system

and in case youre gonna accuse me of the tinfoil thing, I heard of this idea first in the "greed is good" memo


Obviously you dont understand this whole "f2p mania". look at the WOW. They presenting F2P as "free". But its not free. Its just demoversion/trial, without time limitation. They just gave players a good feeling that they can play "for free". But its still only a demo full of limits. So i dont see a problem if CCP give us this "f2p" by the removing 14 day limit.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:04:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 08:05:31
Originally by: TharOkha


Obviously you dont understand this whole "f2p mania". look at the WOW. They presenting F2P as "free". But its not free.


when the hell did WoW say they were free to play??

Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:13:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: TharOkha


Obviously you dont understand this whole "f2p mania". look at the WOW. They presenting F2P as "free". But its not free. Its just demoversion/trial, without time limitation. They just gave players a good feeling that they can play "for free". But its still only a demo full of limits. So i dont see a problem if CCP give us this "f2p" by the removing 14 day limit.


Quote:
Merit driven items are locked from purchase until a player achieves a certain criteria [in game] hence having to earn the item/power and then having to pay real money to obtain it


As you either dont remember that bit from the memo or you "obviously didnt understand it", I figured Id help YOU out

Igor Radmilovich
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:45:00 - [15]
 

Because $15 a month is obviously too expensive.... Or buy a PLEX, EVE probably has one of the best subscription systems ive seen in any MMO so gtfo with F2P bull.

Right now someone can PLEX their whole way through EVE, not pay for anything ever, not even expansions. Your suggestion is sub par, and im sure would make NO sense to the rest of the community, kthx.

Dagon Sirius
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:57:00 - [16]
 

EVE is already a disguised F2P.
Everyone with any economic understanding can make 300m+ a day without any problems to get PLEX.

shady alt
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:01:00 - [17]
 

hmmm F2P? I could do with 32 mining accounts and being griefed by 10 year olds. I can see it now....

Dane El
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:53:00 - [18]
 

FTP would kill the PLEX market for CCP. The NEX store cannot replace the demand of all the accounts running on PLEX.

I suspect you won't see it for those reasons. CCP wants it to be viable to purchase PLEX from them and then resell to other players for ISK.

Holy One
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:54:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Martin Skorn
EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off, and they could keep MT's without much complaint. Then they can make a complete and finished expansion or two each year and charge for those individually. For example, if someone wants to opt out of Incarna they simply don't have to purchase it.

It makes sense to me, although they would need to work out the unlimited alts situation that would inevitably arise...




Eve is free to play. You pay the first six months only. Or you're doing it wrong. Shocked

Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:57:00 - [20]
 

I agree with everyone else - OP's suggestion is a bad idea.

We want a steady income stream for CCP so that thay can further improve Eve.

An excessive item store means an unbalenced game.

Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:58:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: TharOkha
There should be f2p. And its already prepared. Trial account. There is only need to remove 14 day limitation and its done. f2p would have limitation in skill books, just like trial today.


no cos eve would be swamped in trial hauler bots using primaes or pre rigged cargo exequrors (1800m3) fully cargo rigged/fitted

TheReverend
Most Wanted INC
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.09.05 11:59:00 - [22]
 

EVE should be F2P. For example in game there are skils that canot be trained on trial accounts.CCP should put something like neverending trial, where you will for better skils pay with ARUM or something like that

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.09.05 12:39:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Martin Skorn
EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off



What is a lot of companies?

What is successful?


Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 12:49:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Thornat on 05/09/2011 12:50:26
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Martin Skorn
EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off



What is a lot of companies?

What is successful?




DING DING DING.. Give the guy with the big lips a donut!

Ya generally speaking games that have failed miserably bail themsleves out by going free to play and hoping it will attract enough new cheap sk.. I mean players to play their game and sign up(pay) for the "extra stuff". Oddly enough this works, which is often quite confusing to me that a person is unwilling to pay 15 bucks a month for all the content the game has to offer but is happy paying 20 bucks a few times a month to get bits and pieces of the same game. Everquest 2 is one of the silliest examples. Free to play yet after you get done upgrading the game to the "full game" you get when you pay 15 bucks a month you end up spending hundreds of dollars for it. Yet its wildly popular and has literly revitalized the game to the point that the free to play servers are way more fun to play on than the subscription fee servers.

Never understood it, but it is a fact that it works.

Some examples

Dungeons and Dragons Online
Everquest 2
Guild Wars
Lord of The Rings

just to name a few that have been saved from definitive deaths and revitalized by free to play.

Wether these games can claim to be successful however is another story, since their is like zero information about figuires (except for EQ2 which I have experianced first hand) for all we know they are wildly successful, or horrific failures. Who knows... but if the trend is an indication than I would say, ya it seems to be very successful, otherwise no one would be doing it.



Richard Hammond II
Posted - 2011.09.05 12:51:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Richard Hammond II on 05/09/2011 12:54:07
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Martin Skorn
EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off



What is a lot of companies?

What is successful?




See DDO if you werent just trolling. It was dying, no doubt, then they went F2P, and now the DDO model is turbine's basic f2p strategy

Originally by: Thornat


Wether these games can claim to be successful however is another story, since their is like zero information about figuires




Figures

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.09.05 12:56:00 - [26]
 

Moved from General Discussion.

Prince Kobol
Posted - 2011.09.05 13:00:00 - [27]
 

It all depends on what you consider to be successful.

As a founder of Lotro I can tell you that yes, maybe financially in the short term it has been a success for Warner Brothers.

In regards to the game itself it has been a total failure.

Since Lotro went to F2P a massive amount of "I win items" have been introduced, content releases have been poor to say in the least.

At the moment a small number of players are now demanding refunds for the up and coming Isengaurd expansion as more and more features seem to be disspearing and that number is growing, especially since WB have to refund EU players by law.

A number of there servers are damn near enough empty as most people expect a number of server merges in the coming 12 months.

So yes, whilst in the short term WB might of made a some extra money, very little littel of it has gone back into the game and players are still leaving.


Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
Posted - 2011.09.05 13:22:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:24:22
Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:22:12
Umm, if you get 400 mil ISK a month per account, the game IS free to play already (I am aware it doesn't work like that entirely, but in effect, that's what it's achieving)

Also,

Quote:
Guild Wars


has been 'free 2 play' from the creation of the game, and is simply using a different profit model. It's success had NOTHING to do with it GOING free 2 play, as it never WAS pay 2 play to begin with.

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2011.09.05 13:27:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:24:22
Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:22:12
Umm, if you get 400 mil ISK a month per account, the game IS free to play already (I am aware it doesn't work like that entirely, but in effect, that's what it's achieving)



Nope.

If it requires 400m isk per month, its not free to play. If the big coalitions curbstomping pretty much everyone in the search for more vital space has taugh us anything, is that ISK has real life value.

Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
Posted - 2011.09.05 13:36:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Renan Ruivo
Originally by: Gemberslaafje
Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:24:22
Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:22:12
Umm, if you get 400 mil ISK a month per account, the game IS free to play already (I am aware it doesn't work like that entirely, but in effect, that's what it's achieving)



Nope.

If it requires 400m isk per month, its not free to play. If the big coalitions curbstomping pretty much everyone in the search for more vital space has taugh us anything, is that ISK has real life value.


Very well. BUT, my point still stands that you don't strictly need Euro's/Dollars/Pounds/Crones to play the game.


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