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Sin Full
Posted - 2011.09.04 19:56:00 - [1]
 

So.. A few days ago i finally finished training for a Hulk and was very happy about it because i have been mining in a Retriever for nearly a year.. I bought a Hulk for 198Mil of hard earned ISK and then fitted it up..

Day 1 of mining went great and i had a good time doing it and pulling in alot of ore to use for manafacturing..

Day 2 i warp to a belt.. Turn on my mining lasers and about 10 minutes go by when a BS warps in on me and destroys my Hulk..

198Mil down the drain not including fittings..

Why is this Acceptable too you CCP? I would very much like one of you to comment here and tell me.. To be absolutely honest im not even angry about it just very dissapointed because of the work i put into getting it..

Why can i not insure a Hulk for its full worth? i know its Tech 2 but they are so easy to gank it seems and in a ship that costs nearly 1/4 of what a Hulk costs.. So why cant the Insurance be better for Hulk and other tech 2 ships?

All hard work i put in to getting it and its just gone.. Its ridiculous and it makes me rethink my subscription when i can be put back to square one so quickly and i pay for this? Confused

Before anyone says that i am a angry carebear.. That is not the case.. I mine to manafacture to sell on the market for ISK so i can afford ships etc to PVP with..

I really would like some answers to the questions i have asked perferably by a member of CCP if possible.. This cant continue like this..

Regards
Sin

Albetta
Gallente
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.09.04 19:58:00 - [2]
 

Thats the point. EVE isn't a game, it is a toybox.

Lita Ogeko
Posted - 2011.09.04 19:59:00 - [3]
 

That is what is fun with eve, you can get ****ed up. Soooooo Can I has your stuff when you unsub?

Cors
It's A Trap
It's A Trap Alliance
Posted - 2011.09.04 20:02:00 - [4]
 

I'll assume you're not a troll.

First.. If you undock, you CAN BE BLOW UP.
Second.. If you can't afford to loose it, don't undock.
Third.. They ARE out to get you. You are NOT paranoid. They WILL kill you.
Fourth.. Fit for COMBAT. NOT for mining. If you'd had a full tank on that ship, you would have survived long enough for Concord to blow their BS up.

Learn from this. Don't expect ponies and rainbows in EVE. This is EVE ONLINE. If you don't know what that means after a YEAR of playing...

Have a nice day.

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.04 20:02:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: J Kunjeh on 04/09/2011 20:03:10
I actually run a very professional insurance company in Eve (I'm the sole proprietor) called ShipSure. It's worth insuring your ship with me. Not only do I pay out far more than NPC insurance, but I'm cheaper per dollar insured too. Here's my offer: 10 million will get you 150 million of coverage on that hot Retriever of yours (well, your next one anyhow). Just send me the cash in game with your limited API key via Eve-mail, and you're set.

lachrymus
Gallente
Tie Rodarro Corp
Hail Of God Society
Posted - 2011.09.04 20:06:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: J Kunjeh
Edited by: J Kunjeh on 04/09/2011 20:03:10
I actually run a very professional insurance company in Eve (I'm the sole proprietor) called ShipSure. It's worth insuring your ship with me. Not only do I pay out far more than NPC insurance, but I'm cheaper per dollar insured too. Here's my offer: 10 million will get you 150 million of coverage on that hot Retriever of yours (well, your next one anyhow). Just send me the cash in game with your limited API key via Eve-mail, and you're set.

Ho ho ho!
Phaser 2?

J Kunjeh
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.04 20:08:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: lachrymus
Originally by: J Kunjeh
Edited by: J Kunjeh on 04/09/2011 20:03:10
I actually run a very professional insurance company in Eve (I'm the sole proprietor) called ShipSure. It's worth insuring your ship with me. Not only do I pay out far more than NPC insurance, but I'm cheaper per dollar insured too. Here's my offer: 10 million will get you 150 million of coverage on that hot Retriever of yours (well, your next one anyhow). Just send me the cash in game with your limited API key via Eve-mail, and you're set.

Ho ho ho!
Phaser 2?


More like FauxPhaser

lachrymus
Gallente
Tie Rodarro Corp
Hail Of God Society
Posted - 2011.09.04 20:24:00 - [8]
 

Tell you what: give me your money and I will pay back 10x in a month after trading. How's that for a deal?

Long John Silver
Posted - 2011.09.04 20:25:00 - [9]
 

They say that experience is something you get just after you needed it. This is especially true in EVE.

So did CONCORD come and whup the nasty BS for attacking you?

What... they didn't?

So you did have protection, mining in low or nullsec with a protective escort in attendance....?

What... you didn't???

*Facepalm*

Trixie Stardust
Posted - 2011.09.04 20:40:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Trixie Stardust on 04/09/2011 20:43:03
Does it take a year to get into a hulk? Shocked I can't remember it's been so long. Good God man, mining in a retriever for a year? Bless your heart.. Shocked

Oh, the "I mine to fund my pvp ships" is what they all say. Me included. Back when I mined, before it finally drove me utterly insane. Then I discovered something called "fishing" in real life.. sitting for hours on a dock instead of mining pixel roids, getting sun and enjoying the salt air.

But I digress.

OP, how did you get popped in high sec? I've heard tell of it, but in way too many years of mining you know it's never once happened to me.

Did you get can flipped? If so, that is your fault.

The above poster is correct, you can avoid this problem by fitting a tank. It's expensive, basically a nullsec fit. But honestly.. you're mining highsec.. is this common now? It's not hulkageddon atm.

Anyhow OP.. you're obviously trolling.. if you're not, then just suck it up. Plat insurance covers more than half of the hulk (if I recall correctly). If you can't bear to work back up to a hulk then stop crying and buy a plex. In my day, we didn't have plex -- we had to walk uphill in the snow, both ways, to recover our losses.

You want to hear sad? One of my old carebear friends, a real life girl, she worked so hard played by the rules and the culmination of her eve career was getting into a freighter. She got popped second day, going for a sweet mineral deal in .4.

And you know what? She didn't complain. She didn't cry on the forums. She took it like a man -- her only fault was that she'd just never PVP'd, she just didn't appreciate the risk. I think she quit soon after that.. I still feel bad for her, I don't care if she was a nerd I respected how hard that girl worked. And she was *honest*, you could trust her and that's golden in Eve.

She was a friend, I should have helped her replace that freighter. Anyhow OP your loss was minor and it's part of the game.. why are you crying.. man up.

YARRRR!!






Naran Eto
Posted - 2011.09.04 21:22:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Trixie Stardust
Edited by: Trixie Stardust on 04/09/2011 20:43:03
Does it take a year to get into a hulk? Shocked I can't remember it's been so long. Good God man, mining in a retriever for a year? Bless your heart.. Shocked




No, it takes 55 days, 22hrs, 49 minutes and 50 seconds on a new character with no implants to fly a hulk with T2 strips :D

Lu'Marat
Posted - 2011.09.04 21:57:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Sin Full
Stuff about getting his hulk blown up



Dude, your character name is "Sin Full", do you seriously expect me to believe you are a noob miner who is genuinely upset over getting his hulk blown up?

I call BS on that.

But just in case:
Welcome to EVE. Getting your stuff blown up is the entire point of the game (and, by the way, the main reason why you can sell the stuff you produce). If you want to avoid such events, mine in high-sec for CONCORD protection, mine with friends for backup, have someone scout, at the very least have your hulk ready to warp out the moment somebody you don't know warps in. There are several very good guides and podcasts explaining how to protect your assets.

Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.04 22:19:00 - [13]
 

Smells like CCP DEVALT hinting at implementing insurance for industrial ships so noobs will feel safer in 0.0

BATTLE BADGERS AHOY

KaarBaak
Minmatar
Seatec Astronomy
Posted - 2011.09.04 22:29:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Lu'Marat
Originally by: Sin Full
Stuff about getting his hulk blown up



Dude, your character name is "Sin Full", do you seriously expect me to believe you are a noob miner who is genuinely upset over getting his hulk blown up?

I call BS on that.

But just in case:
Welcome to EVE. Getting your stuff blown up is the entire point of the game (and, by the way, the main reason why you can sell the stuff you produce). If you want to avoid such events, mine in high-sec for CONCORD protection, mine with friends for backup, have someone scout, at the very least have your hulk ready to warp out the moment somebody you don't know warps in. There are several very good guides and podcasts explaining how to protect your assets.


I've always thought these some of the most insidious scams, as it attempts to play on people's better natures. I'm sure he's collected a couple hundred million isk by now through charitable donation.


Corelous Alterrian
Amarr
High Flyers
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2011.09.04 22:32:00 - [15]
 

Never undock in a ship you can't afford to lose.

Hwong Jian
Posted - 2011.09.04 22:58:00 - [16]
 

Would you like to know a secret?

Would you like the absolute best protection available in high sec for your mining operation?

This is the closest EVE has to a 100% guaranteed method of making certain that CONCORD will be there when you feel you need them.

Ready for it? Here... we... go!

Make a second account. This can be a trial account. Fly the pilot on the second account, in a noob ship (ibis, velator, reaver, the amarr one) to where you are mining in high sec. Have the second account lock you and shoot you. Once CONCORD blows your "alt" up, dock in a station and wait out your GCC. Once the GCC is gone, undock in a noob ship and shoot your hulk again. Do this for the entire duration that you're mining.

CONCORD is limited by how long until they appear on grid. However, once they're on grid, they respond immediately to unauthorized acts of aggression. No offending ship will get more than a single volley at you. And, very few suicide ganks will be willing to tee off with CONCORD already on grid.

Aside from having someone shield repping you constantly, this is the safest way to mine.

Cozmik R5
Minmatar
Dock 94
Posted - 2011.09.04 23:05:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Sin Full
Hulk gank stuff (gratz to ganker btw)



You should switch your name to Tear Full Twisted Evil

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.09.04 23:07:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Hwong Jian
Make a second account. This can be a trial account. Fly the pilot on the second account, in a noob ship (ibis, velator, reaver, the amarr one) to where you are mining in high sec. Have the second account lock you and shoot you. Once CONCORD blows your "alt" up, dock in a station and wait out your GCC. Once the GCC is gone, undock in a noob ship and shoot your hulk again. Do this for the entire duration that you're mining.

This has to be an exploit.

Si Omega
Posted - 2011.09.05 03:04:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Si Omega on 05/09/2011 03:17:15
[removed tard flames]

Just fit a sebo to a Hulk and keep your drones out. Hulks lock very fast with a sebo. Get a shot in. Gankers HATE having losses. Being Concorded does not show as a loss. A single drone shot does. Too many losses hurts their e-peen.

Mystic5hadow
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.09.05 03:53:00 - [20]
 

If you PvP, you should hunt the guy down and blow him up.
Simple as that.

If you can't handle the harsh realities of EvE, then go to a different game that suits your carebear ways. Don't try to change or complain about the game plenty of us are happy with.

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:24:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Hwong Jian

Make a second account. This can be a trial account. Fly the pilot on the second account, in a noob ship (ibis, velator, reaver, the amarr one) to where you are mining in high sec. Have the second account lock you and shoot you. Once CONCORD blows your "alt" up, dock in a station and wait out your GCC. Once the GCC is gone, undock in a noob ship and shoot your hulk again. Do this for the entire duration that you're mining.

CONCORD is limited by how long until they appear on grid. However, once they're on grid, they respond immediately to unauthorized acts of aggression. No offending ship will get more than a single volley at you. And, very few suicide ganks will be willing to tee off with CONCORD already on grid.

Aside from having someone shield repping you constantly, this is the safest way to mine.


You ****ing Star!!! honestly never thought of that!!! Bio-mass the toon, rince and repeat....perfect =D.

Living Dead Girl
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:25:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Hwong Jian
Make a second account. This can be a trial account. Fly the pilot on the second account, in a noob ship (ibis, velator, reaver, the amarr one) to where you are mining in high sec. Have the second account lock you and shoot you. Once CONCORD blows your "alt" up, dock in a station and wait out your GCC. Once the GCC is gone, undock in a noob ship and shoot your hulk again. Do this for the entire duration that you're mining.

This has to be an exploit.




It Is.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:26:00 - [23]
 

qq moar

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:27:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Living Dead Girl
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Hwong Jian
Make a second account. This can be a trial account. Fly the pilot on the second account, in a noob ship (ibis, velator, reaver, the amarr one) to where you are mining in high sec. Have the second account lock you and shoot you. Once CONCORD blows your "alt" up, dock in a station and wait out your GCC. Once the GCC is gone, undock in a noob ship and shoot your hulk again. Do this for the entire duration that you're mining.

This has to be an exploit.

It Is.

It's ONLY an exploit if the pilot that flies the noobship is being recycled on a regular basis.
If you can do that by NOT abusing the trial/buddy system and by NOT constantly biomassing pilots to create new ones, then it's a-ok with CCP.

Puppet Mas'ter
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:28:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Hwong Jian
Make a second account. This can be a trial account. Fly the pilot on the second account, in a noob ship (ibis, velator, reaver, the amarr one) to where you are mining in high sec. Have the second account lock you and shoot you. Once CONCORD blows your "alt" up, dock in a station and wait out your GCC. Once the GCC is gone, undock in a noob ship and shoot your hulk again. Do this for the entire duration that you're mining.

This has to be an exploit.


reported. We'll see

Living Dead Girl
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:28:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Akita T

It's ONLY an exploit if the pilot that flies the noobship is being recycled on a regular basis.
If you can do that by NOT abusing the trial/buddy system and by NOT constantly biomassing pilots to create new ones, then it's a-ok with CCP.



That makes sense.

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:30:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Desert Ice78 on 05/09/2011 04:30:16
Originally by: Puppet Mas'ter
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Hwong Jian
Make a second account. This can be a trial account. Fly the pilot on the second account, in a noob ship (ibis, velator, reaver, the amarr one) to where you are mining in high sec. Have the second account lock you and shoot you. Once CONCORD blows your "alt" up, dock in a station and wait out your GCC. Once the GCC is gone, undock in a noob ship and shoot your hulk again. Do this for the entire duration that you're mining.

This has to be an exploit.


reported. We'll see


I foresee fail ganker tears coming here!!!! Very Happy

Hmmmmmmm....delicious......

Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:31:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Puppet Mas'ter
Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Originally by: Hwong Jian
Make a second account. This can be a trial account. Fly the pilot on the second account, in a noob ship (ibis, velator, reaver, the amarr one) to where you are mining in high sec. Have the second account lock you and shoot you. Once CONCORD blows your "alt" up, dock in a station and wait out your GCC. Once the GCC is gone, undock in a noob ship and shoot your hulk again. Do this for the entire duration that you're mining.

This has to be an exploit.


reported. We'll see


nor likely, doubt the forums are being monitored given that the new ones open soon (kinda how EVE isnt being worked on since they have WoDouches and Dust)

Si Omega
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:35:00 - [29]
 

Nothing says you can't keep using the (soon to be) -10 char, keep a li'l frig in an Orca close by, grab it after you warp in your pod and start shooting until CC arrive. No need to recycle.

Can't see it being an exploit because it's using game mechanics. Recycling chars is an issue though so use tip above.

(In fact, a -10 dude I used to fly with uses this trick to (you guessed it) gank high-sec miners. Go figure.)

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.09.05 04:38:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Si Omega
Nothing says you can't keep using the (soon to be) -10 char, keep a li'l frig in an Orca close by, grab it after you warp in your pod and start shooting until CC arrive. No need to recycle.

Can't see it being an exploit because it's using game mechanics. Recycling chars is an issue though so use tip above.

(In fact, a -10 dude I used to fly with uses this trick to (you guessed it) gank high-sec miners. Go figure.)


In fact the only (exploit) issue that I can see is by creating unacceptable levels of server lag.

3/4 round of concord should do nicely and leave the hamsters still chirping...


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