Originally by: Simetraz
Edited by: Simetraz on 03/09/2011 18:41:29
No it is a matter of CSM crossing a line.
When posts like the one linked gets out CCP has every right to close down the CSM.
CSM should have done the reverse.
CSM should have called it quits and closed it down themselves under the premise of no communication with the developer.
Yes it is a matter of semantics but Goonies has lawyers and they should have consulted with them first, CSM made a mistake here and it was a big one.
I fail to see a line that has been crossed.
Let's say CCP releases the unredacted minutes, to include anything covered by the NDA. People look at it, go "Wow, they got some transparency going now!" and the players are happy. People start to feel confident that their gripes are being heard, and that CCP will at least entertain the notions put forth. No BS, no strings, just saying, "This is what we discussed, no=holds-barred, to crap, these are the official minutes." CSM comes out and says, "Yep, that is exactly what we talked about. CSM endorses 100%." You now have the players believing that CCP cares.
However, CCP is trying to turn the CSM into their puppets. The Mittani, for all his shortcomings, has said, "I refuse to be played like this." It's a legitimate grievance. If you want me to be a spokesperson and go along with you, you pay me. Since you're not, I'm not allowing you to use me or my likeness to bolster your sales. You can claim ownership of any and all characters the player has. But you can't copyright and own the actual person. By putting words in the CSMs' mouths, CCP is attempting to sabotage their own initiatives.
As The Mittani said, the developers, for the majority of it, are supporting CSM and the players. Hilmar is the problem. The suits in charge are the problem. If this is the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back and CCP decides to shut down the CSM once and for all, they are admitting defeat.
And once the CSM is disbanded officially, how many subscriptions do you think will go with them?