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Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:41:00 - [121]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 07:42:57
Originally by: Thornat


High Sec is a very small portion of Eve gameplay,


you are aware 80% of the player base plays in high sec and HAS NO INTEREST in 0.0

you saying in essence they are playing the game wrong is arrogant at best.

your post make me laugh cause it reeks of tears and...
umad bro?

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:45:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Thornat


High Sec is a very small portion of Eve gameplay,


you are aware 80% of the player base plays in high sec and HAS NO INTEREST in 0.0

you saying in essence they are playing the game wrong is arrogant at best.


Not at all. I'm not saying they are wrong. What I'm saying is that like in every other game the large majority of the community is not playing at the highest level of the game. Its the same in any MMO. Run all the missions you want in high sec. Do all the mining you want in high sec. Manufacture to your hearts content, do research.. do planetary Interaction .. Whatever. Go Nuts. What I'm saying is those doing those things in High Sec should always make less ISK and those activites should yield lower rewards in High Sec, than those doing the same things in Low, Null and Wormhole Space.

It has nothing to do with doing it right or wrong, it has to do with the simple risk vs. reward system where players taking greater risks and doing the high end content should be yield greater rewards when they are successful because its simply much much harder to acomplish. I have no issue with 80% of the population being in High Sec carebearing, I just don't think they should be recieving greater rewards than say a guy like me who cuts his teeth in Wormhole Space.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:50:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Thornat
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Thornat


High Sec is a very small portion of Eve gameplay,


you are aware 80% of the player base plays in high sec and HAS NO INTEREST in 0.0

you saying in essence they are playing the game wrong is arrogant at best.


Not at all. I'm not saying they are wrong.


Who are you to tell 80% of the ppl in this game how to play it? lol ley CCP change Highsec, so that its not worth living in.
80% of the players is the game - well I usually say 60%, Im, fairly certain 20% will adapt, but 60% of the ppl in the game will LEAVE THE GAME

Yeah thats not significant. Hence why I see ****ing off 80% of the ppl in the game as the CU/NGE of EVE
see sig

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:54:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Thornat
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Thornat


High Sec is a very small portion of Eve gameplay,


you are aware 80% of the player base plays in high sec and HAS NO INTEREST in 0.0

you saying in essence they are playing the game wrong is arrogant at best.


Not at all. I'm not saying they are wrong.


Who are you to tell 80% of the ppl in this game how to play it? lol ley CCP change Highsec, so that its not worth living in.
80% of the players is the game - well I usually say 60%, Im, fairly certain 20% will adapt, but 60% of the ppl in the game will LEAVE THE GAME

Yeah thats not significant. Hence why I see ****ing off 80% of the ppl in the game as the CU/NGE of EVE
see sig


Lets no be dramatic here. Its not like they are closing down High Sec. All they are doing it is adjusting to ensure that low sec, null sec and wormhole space yield better rewards than High Sec. Its how it should have been from the get go. High Sec will remain a place where a player can turn a profit and do well, it just won't be "the best place to be" to get the "best rewards".

And I've been playing the game for 7 years thats who the **** I am.

P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:57:00 - [125]
 

CSM can declare war on what ever they want. Just like always, they will have no possitive impact on the game. Just players on a high hourse, nailing themselves to a cross.

Could care less.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:58:00 - [126]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 08:02:08

Originally by: Thornat


And I've been playing the game for 7 years thats who the **** I am.


so I should care what you think? Well I dont an you being here that long is very whoop de doo. Tell that to the ppl that unsub an leave you to play by yourself when they do what you want. You honestly think much dev time is gonna be dedicated here with 40% of the population left?

lol SOE thought they were doing "the right thing" back then too
They probably felt just like you do now

an you "Ive been playing here 7 years blah blah blah" bittervets who want to destroy the game for ppl that live in highsec (lol you should be in Goons. They want to destroy YOUR game too) are the reason noone wants to go to 0.0, above all else. so you make high sec crap, theyll STILL not want to go there, youll be in the same place you are now, but bleeding subs even faster as ppl that dont want to put up with their game dying, leaving to find a game they CAN play "right"

Oh hey wait, I thought this was supposed to be a sandbox? There is no right and wrong...

Felix Emlen
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:33:00 - [127]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 08:02:08
so I should care what you think?



Seriously, throwing numbers out like that does nothing but show that you are unable to look past the bandwagon to see the bigger picture- which is that outside of big pew pew and moongoo, living in nullsec, or even lowsec, is not statistically balanced with the benefits of living in highsec.

Say 90% of the population of a terrible game like WoW didn't want to run end game boss instances- does that mean they deserve almost the same goodies from completing quests as those that put in the effort to do the bosses? And only because more people don't want the challenge? It's not that highseccers are being punished, but that nullseccers deserve more, and the easiest way to see that through without significantly destabilizing the economy is to shift resources around as opposed to creating new ones. This systematically encourages highseccer's to push their comfort zones into nullsec, which is what CCP hoped for anyway.

I'm sorry, but you are a terrible poster and have no appreciation for the workings of game balance.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:38:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 08:02:08

Originally by: Thornat


And I've been playing the game for 7 years thats who the **** I am.


so I should care what you think? Well I dont an you being here that long is very whoop de doo. Tell that to the ppl that unsub an leave you to play by yourself when they do what you want. You honestly think much dev time is gonna be dedicated here with 40% of the population left?

lol SOE thought they were doing "the right thing" back then too
They probably felt just like you do now

an you "Ive been playing here 7 years blah blah blah" bittervets who want to destroy the game for ppl that live in highsec (lol you should be in Goons. They want to destroy YOUR game too) are the reason noone wants to go to 0.0, above all else. so you make high sec crap, theyll STILL not want to go there, youll be in the same place you are now, but bleeding subs even faster as ppl that dont want to put up with their game dying, leaving to find a game they CAN play "right"

Oh hey wait, I thought this was supposed to be a sandbox? There is no right and wrong...



Alright, see if you can follow the logic here because I think you have missed the point, really I think you are having a different conversation than I am.

I have played 7 years is not whoopti doo. What it is, is experiance with the game. I have been everywhere and done everything, my perspective is one of experiance. You on the other hand, hide in high sec, make a bunch of assumptions about how the rest of the game is and than have the balls to have an opinion about **** you haven't even tried. Do I understand you correctly, we should take the advice of a player about how the game should be who has zero experiance with the majority of the game and ignore the guys who have been playing for years? This is your strategy on how to improve the game?

Do yourself a favor, really this is good advice for everyone in Eve. Before you form an opinion, get some experiance with it. I have spent a great deal of time in High Sec, I still spent a lot of time their today. Truth is, I spend more and more time their every month simply because its more profitable, yields better rewards.... but at the end of the day, its boring as **** so my choices are .. run boring ass level 4 missions and succeed in the game, or risk everything in low, null and WH space and get considerably less for my efforts with the potential of taking huge losses.

The game is upside down, thats the opinion of a 7 year old player who loves Eve. Not a bitter vet, I don't know where the **** you got that from.

Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:39:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: P42ALPHA
CSM can declare war on what ever they want. Just like always, they will have no possitive impact on the game. Just players on a high hourse, nailing themselves to a cross.

Could care less.

This is a horrible post. Go sit in the corner and think about what you did wrong.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:41:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Felix Emlen
This systematically encourages highseccer's to push their comfort zones into nullsec, which is what CCP hoped for anyway.


which will systematically push ppl out of this game and thats what the 0.0 ppl seem to want anyways. Well thats cool, when you have less than half the population of the game left, youll have plenty of room for yourselves I guess.

Itll be great for you that say. Funny thought, Im the only voice of opposition in this thread lol
Ill keep fighting the fight cause Im bored tho.
Quote:
I'm sorry

oh come on be a real troll/bittervet and dont lie about this part at least. Youre not sorry

Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:44:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
which will systematically push ppl out of this game and thats what the 0.0 ppl seem to want anyways. Well thats cool, when you have less than half the population of the game left, youll have plenty of room for yourselves I guess.

I see no downside to a bunch of highsec pubbies quitting the game. At the very least it will improve lag.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:47:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Ladie Scarlet
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
which will systematically push ppl out of this game and thats what the 0.0 ppl seem to want anyways. Well thats cool, when you have less than half the population of the game left, youll have plenty of room for yourselves I guess.

I see no downside to a bunch of highsec pubbies quitting the game. At the very least it will improve lag.


A Goon wouldnt

Why is this not a surprise to me? You all have been trying to kill off the highsec ppl's ability to play the game forever lol

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:58:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Felix Emlen
This systematically encourages highseccer's to push their comfort zones into nullsec, which is what CCP hoped for anyway.


which will systematically push ppl out of this game and thats what the 0.0 ppl seem to want anyways. Well thats cool, when you have less than half the population of the game left, youll have plenty of room for yourselves I guess.

Itll be great for you that say. Funny thought, Im the only voice of opposition in this thread lol
Ill keep fighting the fight cause Im bored tho.
Quote:
I'm sorry

oh come on be a real troll/bittervet and dont lie about this part at least. Youre not sorry



It isn't much of a fight, the decesion to fix this problem has already been made and frankly your presumption that people will suddenly "quit" the game because the change is implemented is a baseless assumption at absolute best.

What is more likely to happen is that the vets like me who have supported the game for years will continue to do so, while the nubs like you who are likely to flush out regardless of anything will leave the game in predictable numbers. This has been a repetative cycle for the entire life of Eve and I don't see it changing anytime soon.

The difference between the NGE and this change is that no one requested the NGE, while their is considerable support for this change in the game from the most dedicated and core audiance (long term players).

I don't like the goons anymore than you do, but it is a fact that they have been here a hell of a lot longer than you and their opinion (like them or not) carries more weight with me than a high sec carebear playing on a trial account.

We all have our agendas, and I agree Goons vision of the game is skewed too far to the oppossite side of the spectrum, but their clout over the game has been sinking for years and as they get their assess handed to them in the SOV wars and their screams of "unfair" gets louder they will eventually flush out just like Bob did. The age of the Goons is just about over.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:04:00 - [134]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 09:11:33

Originally by: Thornat


What is more likely to happen is that the vets like me who have supported the game for years will continue to do so, while the nubs like you who are likely to flush out


lol yes, lets leave the game for the bittervets to fight over. If you dont play the game "right" gtfo

have fun in your empty sandbox pal

lol ya cuz we dont want new ppl or "nubs" to pollute up your leet internet spaceshipz lol

man you bittervets are some damn fun ppl to get all riled up

lol for all the tears you bittervets say we shed, the tears you all are crying over ppl not playing your spreadsheets right are the best Ive seen since I got here

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr
Divine Power.
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:06:00 - [135]
 

Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 05/09/2011 09:06:16
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Thornat


What is more likely to happen is that the vets like me who have supported the game for years will continue to do so, while the nubs like you who are likely to flush out


lol yes, lets leave the game for the bittervets to fight over. If you dont play the game "right" gtfo

have fun in your empty sandbox pal

since it's highsec players leaving like you said, how would we even notice their absence, and even if we did why would we care? Lack of Orphanage wardecs?

Alpheias
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:09:00 - [136]
 

Like the poor management at CCP should come as a surprise to anyone.

Leana Akachi
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:13:00 - [137]
 

Funny, since Eve is almost about making life hell for other side anyway...how can we give a damn about others?

Hisec carebears dont give a flying F about low/null and nerfs/buffs there.
Low/null players almost hate carebears and dont give a flying F about hisec.

We made protests, lighted Jita on fire, crashed Amarr & Rens, CSM goes to iron out things, we still dont know what the hell went on there, reach-around i guess, couse it seems they didn't talk much.

And now the CSM leader is calling for a revolt? The same one that assured us everything is gonna be fine?
Drama again?

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:14:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 09:09:34
Originally by: Thornat


What is more likely to happen is that the vets like me who have supported the game for years will continue to do so, while the nubs like you who are likely to flush out


lol yes, lets leave the game for the bittervets to fight over. If you dont play the game "right" gtfo

have fun in your empty sandbox pal

lol ya cuz we dont want new ppl or "nubs" to pollute up your leet internet spaceshipz lol

man you bittervets are some damn fun ppl to get all riled up



You over estimate how many nubs like you their are and how many "happy vets" like me their are. I'm neither bitter or upset, simply glad that CCP and the CSM reckognize that their core audiance is not the few hundred people they get to sign up for trial accounts for a few months but rather the guys who have been loyaly paying subs for years.

Eve will see a mass exodus, nothing will stop that from happening now. The result however will be trimming of the abnucious wannabe's who think this is some kind of single player sandbox and leave the game to the vets who actually know how to take advantage of a sandbox. Running missions in the safety of high sec is not what the game is really about, its fine that people do it and I don't have a problem with carebears. But frankly we don't really need a bunch of temporary accounts flooding the market with garbage and whining on the forums about how their T1 cruisers got destroyed and how unfair it is. So ya Im with the so called bitter vets, we really don't need you and the game will be better when you leave.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:17:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Leana Akachi
Funny, since Eve is almost about making life hell for other side anyway...how can we give a damn about others?

Hisec carebears dont give a flying F about low/null and nerfs/buffs there.
Low/null players almost hate carebears and dont give a flying F about hisec.

We made protests, lighted Jita on fire, crashed Amarr & Rens, CSM goes to iron out things, we still dont know what the hell went on there, reach-around i guess, couse it seems they didn't talk much.

And now the CSM leader is calling for a revolt? The same one that assured us everything is gonna be fine?
Drama again?


Its a cluster **** and I agree that Mittans is an ******* who has no business representing the community. But I think most of the CSM's have their **** together and are on the right track. High Sec is not broken at all, it works fine. Focusing on low, null and Wormhole space is what they should be doing because thats where the problems are. The fact that Mittans had some sort of nervous breakdown has less to do with CCP and the game and more to do with his flawed character.

Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:19:00 - [140]
 

Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 05/09/2011 09:22:13
Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 05/09/2011 09:06:16
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Thornat


What is more likely to happen is that the vets like me who have supported the game for years will continue to do so, while the nubs like you who are likely to flush out


lol yes, lets leave the game for the bittervets to fight over. If you dont play the game "right" gtfo

have fun in your empty sandbox pal

since it's highsec players leaving like you said, how would we even notice their absence, and even if we did why would we care? Lack of Orphanage wardecs?


Hell I dont even get why you 0.0 dwellers are so damn jealous of the high sec players anyways. You get a ****load more money in 0.0 ratting and running anomalies than you do running even lvl 4s especially with the diminishing returns thing they got on the way mission payouts work.

Why the high sec players cant play in high sec an the 0.0ers cant play in 0.0 without forcing one group to play in the others sandbox is beyond me other than they you all either want fresh targets. Thats it as far as Ive ever seen. It galls you to no end that we dont wanna offer ourselves up to your guns.

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why would we care? Lack of Orphanage wardecs?


Why DO you even care? lol Thats actually a damn good question. If you wanna lower the income of those in high sec so that they have to move to 0.0 youre gonna have to go a lot more drastic than moving ice an agents honestly tho, youll have to move all the minerals too. Since I came back (yes back) into the game from when I left last an found all the agents changed, Ive mostly been mining, and every time I stop to mission, Ive found Im making a hell of a lot more mining than even missioning. Hell if youre really looking to destroy the highsec'er's way of playing, remove empire entirely. Make the whole game 0.0. I think that'd actually be fun.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:30:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 05/09/2011 09:22:13
Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 05/09/2011 09:06:16
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Thornat


What is more likely to happen is that the vets like me who have supported the game for years will continue to do so, while the nubs like you who are likely to flush out


lol yes, lets leave the game for the bittervets to fight over. If you dont play the game "right" gtfo

have fun in your empty sandbox pal

since it's highsec players leaving like you said, how would we even notice their absence, and even if we did why would we care? Lack of Orphanage wardecs?


Hell I dont even get why you 0.0 dwellers are so damn jealous of the high sec players anyways. You get a ****load more money in 0.0 ratting and running anomalies than you do running even lvl 4s especially with the diminishing returns thing they got on the way mission payouts work.

Why the high sec players cant play in high sec an the 0.0ers cant play in 0.0 without forcing one group to play in the others sandbox is beyond me other than they you all either want fresh targets. Thats it as far as Ive ever seen. It galls you to no end that we dont wanna offer ourselves up to your guns.

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why would we care? Lack of Orphanage wardecs?


Why DO you even care? lol Thats actually a damn good question. If you wanna lower the income of those in high sec so that they have to move to 0.0 youre gonna have to go a lot more drastic than moving ice an agents honestly tho, youll have to move all the minerals too. Since I came back (yes back) into the game from when I left last an found all the agents changed, Ive mostly been mining, and every time I stop to mission, Ive found Im making a hell of a lot more mining than even missioning. Hell if youre really looking to destroy the highsec'er's way of playing, remove empire entirely. Make the whole game 0.0. I think that'd actually be fun.


The problem is that this is a perception. The logicistics and risk of 0.0 means the effort put into running ops like that have the potential of considerably greater drawbacks where as running missions is basically risk free. And no, you will earn more running missions. I don't know where you got that number, but you can't just rat unmolested in 0.0, even if you are deep in your alliances territory their are always visitors.

Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:35:00 - [142]
 

Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 05/09/2011 09:38:27
Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 05/09/2011 09:36:08
Originally by: Thornat
And no, you will earn more running missions. I don't know where you got that number, but you can't just rat unmolested in 0.0,


I got that number running anomalies on my main in 0.0 versus running lvl 4s in Gallente space. I make about 10x the isk running anomalies with my corp and ratting in 0.0 than I do with the dimret mission rewards in high sec. When you get in an anomaly where the battleship rats are 1 mil plus each, but when you get in a lvl 4 an see that the battleship rats in the missions are 300k-500k each you tend to notice a difference over time. Especially when you dont always get BSes in lvl Ivs

I dont know about that guy up there, but my main has been in since 2007 an I dont intend on leaving lol Though I do realize it doesnt much matter how long youve been in game as once yer new yer kinda always new given theres no way to "catch up" unless ppl stop playing. The goal is to learn not to die lol Or it has been for me

Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:38:00 - [143]
 

Does this mean we'll be shooting the jita monument again? Laughing

Cyaxares II
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:45:00 - [144]
 

Edited by: Cyaxares II on 05/09/2011 09:47:28
Originally by: Sullen Skoung

Originally by: Thornat


High Sec is a very small portion of Eve gameplay,


you are aware 80% of the player base plays in high sec and HAS NO INTEREST in 0.0

You take

"80% of characters are located in high-sec"

and turn it into

"80% of players are in high-sec and are not interested in 0.0 whatsoever"

without any second thoughts?

Most 0.0 players I know have one or more alts in high-sec at any point of time (market alts, haulers, mission alts),
whereas those "true" empire dwellers I got to know (spent my first year in empire PvE corporations) don't tend to keep any alts in 0.0...

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr
Divine Power.
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:51:00 - [145]
 

Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 05/09/2011 10:16:25
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod


Hell I dont even get why you 0.0 dwellers are so damn jealous of the high sec players anyways. You get a ****load more money in 0.0 ratting and running anomalies than you do running even lvl 4s especially with the diminishing returns thing they got on the way mission payouts work.
Because missioning in hisec has no incurred cost, in either time or isk. In null one loses ships regularly and is obliged to spend time helping the alliance achieve its objectives. Does the 10-15% isk advantage anomalies over L4 missions really cover that? No. In the end, the highsec player comes out ahead isk-wise.

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Why the high sec players cant play in high sec an the 0.0ers cant play in 0.0 without forcing one group to play in the others sandbox is beyond me other than they you all either want fresh targets. Thats it as far as Ive ever seen. It galls you to no end that we dont wanna offer ourselves up to your guns.
I don't really care if you go into null or unsub or whatever. You seem to be under the impression that the endless isk injection that you do in hisec occurs in some sort of vacuum, when in fact collectively it has a massive distortion economically upon the entire game. Non-cap manufacturing, researching and low-end mining are simply pointless occupations in 0.0 when they can be performed in the risk-free world of highsec just a couple of jumps away. What's ironic is that I want to see 0.0 become more "carebear" that can contain a more varied economy and playstyles and you see my motives as some sort of evil ganking oriented.

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Hell if youre really looking to destroy the highsec'er's way of playing, remove empire entirely. Make the whole game 0.0. I think that'd actually be fun.
I just think the cost of operating in highsec should be increased, not necessarily the rewards being decreased. One of my favorite stories I've ever heard on EVE was about a high-sec carebear corp that kept getting wardec'd so they moved into CVA-held Providence and the pirate corp ended up making complaint threads over how unfair it was that the carebears had the cravenness to hide in 0.0.

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:58:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Reilly Duvolle
Edited by: Reilly Duvolle on 04/09/2011 16:08:52
Kugu thread post bottom part



Mittani makes sense. I knew there must be a reason why so many people like/follow him.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 09:58:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Felix Emlen

Say 90% of the population of a terrible game like WoW didn't want to run end game boss instances- does that mean they deserve almost the same goodies from completing quests as those that put in the effort to do the bosses?

I'm sorry, but you are a terrible poster and have no appreciation for the workings of game balance.


I sorry, IM a terrible poster an youre trying to compare EVE and WoW.

gl with that cause your analogy doesnt even hold up.
WoW is a Theme Park non sandbox game that has a very clearly defined levelling path and direction in game play

none of which exist here. No level, no path, no wrong way to play, unless one listens to the ppl above.

Puppet Mas'ter
Posted - 2011.09.05 10:01:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 07:42:57
Originally by: Thornat


High Sec is a very small portion of Eve gameplay,


you are aware 80% of the player base plays in high sec and HAS NO INTEREST in 0.0

you saying in essence they are playing the game wrong is arrogant at best.

your post make me laugh cause it reeks of tears and...
umad bro?


you are aware...

that noone knows WHAT the percentages are and youre blowing hot wind just like the rest of the masses do.

0/10 troll, move on

Chorone
Posted - 2011.09.05 10:08:00 - [149]
 

CSM wakes up and realize they are CCP's little clowns.

Dance Mittens, Dance!

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.09.05 10:14:00 - [150]
 

Mittani is a joke at best, basically though they should investigate botting within goonswarm based on his blurb.

At the same time he is correct, CCP has not devoted more than 25% of their resources to EVE in the last 2 years. They are devoted significantly less than that now.

That's why you hear talks of nerfing this, moving that etc, that's easier than actual new content and keeps a few happy for a short term. I think Incarna ended up being really the CU of EVE. You see a significant drop already in the average players online, even below historical shifts in summer/winter play.

What was wrong with Incarna, wasn't necessarily the concept it was the incompetent incomplete way it was released. It was worse than most of SOE's fail rollouts. It failed to generate the normal expansion buzz because well you can't do anything with it. They should of held off deployment until at least you could interact with others. The ship's sailed, the people they might of hooked in have come and gone because of incompetence on the part of their management in its roll out. My advice. Stop working on it and return to the more core elements of the game. I'm not talking just nerfing high sec or supercarriers or the like. That's just idiocy and will lead to further decline.

If EVE is a living breathing world then you have to treat it as such. Supercarriers are a problem, so how do you fix the problem. The Caldari might say hey we got this drake hull here we reinforce it a bit increase the mounting size etc and we have a Heavy Battlecruiser that can deliver 2 citadel torps onto a supercapital. Mixed in with our normal Drakes we'll have an effective counter to both problems. The Amarr might develop multi phasic lasers that penetrate shields (ignoring them) to overcome the same problem, in this initial offering they are huge capital weapons that can only fit on dreadnoughts and titans. The Minmatar could come up with an armor penetrating ammo that ignores armor, again only for capital class weapons for their dreads and titans. The Gallente develop a true anti drone weapon taking the hulls of their Interdictor and Heavy Interdictor reworking them for a new application, instead of generating a warp field the probe or device instead uses flechette ammunition fired in rapid succession to deal damage directly to drones, fighters and fighter bombers. The bubbles wouldn't stop warp but deal significant damage to drones, the Gallente the masters of drone technology as we know it use that knowledge to create their own counter.

An Expansion later the Caldari develop multiphasic shielding that counters the Amarr multiphasic lasers which they sell to the Minmatar as well. The Amarr develop hardened armor that counters the Minmatar advance. All the races steal the Gallante idea and now have their own drone interdictors and drone heavy interdictors. All the races develop their own versions of the Heavy Battlecruiser as well. Pirate factions modify transports to serve as minelayers. Minefields are modified mobile warp disruptors. Instead of stopping warp they deal damage to anything in their field every cycle. Minelayers themselves are modified blockade runners with a dedicated bay to hold just minefields they can deploy. BPCs drop at certain missions sites for both the minefields and the minelayers.

Thus you have a natural progression of war tech over time. Where as in one expansion some sort of super weapon (shield penetrating laser) is developed, the next expansion develops the counter to that.

But to have such new devices you'd have to devote more work to EVE than CCP has shown they are willing in the last few years.




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