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Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.03 05:09:00 - [1]
 

After about half an hour of searching and collating, I've created a list of all of winter's upcoming features, as well as listing the sources. After the winter expansion, I'll repost this thread on the new forums, noting what CCP did and didn't do.


Engine trails
Quote:
These were being worked on this release but most likely won’t make it in for the Summer expansion because there is more work to be done. If I had to guess I’d say they will go live during a month ending in “ber”.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadid=1508537



0.0 changes/SC nerf/sov changes/intel changes
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2353
and
Quote:
Conversation then moved onto the Winter expansion and what changes that would bring. A 0.0 re-balance and sovereignty re-design captured the attention of the CSM

http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2011/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_05_2011.pdf



Other racial CQs
Quote:
and later this year we plan on deploying the remaining racial quarters to Tranquility

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2355



Establishments (Bars, clubs, corporate offices, booster selling, etc)
Quote:
and later this year we plan on deploying...the next Incarna feature, establishments

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2355



3D nebulae
"the new nebulae will be part of a fully three-dimensional global skybox, and your perspective will shift depending on which star system you're in. You'll even be able to see very far-away nebulae in other regions off in the distance." -Andreus Ixiris
^Explanation from what they heard at fanfest 2011
Quote:
Torfi displayed the new artwork to be delivered in the Winter.

http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2011/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_05_2011.pdf



New turret effects (Not to be confused with the currently new models)
Quote:
New turret effects, to go along with the new turret models, are slated to come out in the winter expansions.

http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2011/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_05_2011.pdf



Booster/smuggling changes
Quote:
Establishments will be coupled with an iterative feature on contraband.

http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2011/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_05_2011.pdf



Tornado
Quote:
It'll be after the Incarna release this summer--it still needs design work and porting into the game.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1508537&page=2#34




Bonus stuff:
Gallente/hybrid rebalance - Next Summer
Quote:
GALLENTE WEAPON REBALANCE FOR NEXT SUMMER.

http://www.evenews24.com/2011/07/30/eve-vegas-ccp-keynote/



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Indy Rider
Amarr
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2011.09.03 05:18:00 - [2]
 

Anyone willing to take a bet on the only thing we get this winter is a hybrid buff?

Herping yourDerp
Posted - 2011.09.03 05:21:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Indy Rider
Anyone willing to take a bet on the only thing we get this winter is more bugs and 1 more laggy CQ racial background[/quote

FYP.
and that is my bet.

Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2011.09.03 05:39:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Indy Rider
Anyone willing to take a bet on the only thing we get this winter is a hybrid buff?


I'd trade every other discussed feature just for that. Even the SC nerf.

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2011.09.03 06:49:00 - [5]
 

There's no way that both establishments and 3 more CQs are coming in the next expansion... We're not getting establishments in the next expansion.

Ni'ark
Parnassius Corporation
Inception Alliance
Posted - 2011.09.03 06:54:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: mechtech
There's no way that both establishments and 3 more CQs are coming in the next expansion... We're not getting establishments in the next expansion.


We are probably getting 1 more racial CQ Razz

Lucien Visteen
Posted - 2011.09.03 08:55:00 - [7]
 

A lot of good things to look forward to indeed.

Hoping for the establishments and the beginning of 0.0 changes and crossing fingers for the hybrid rebalance next summer.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:02:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Indy Rider
Anyone willing to take a bet on the only thing we get this winter is a hybrid buff?


No, because CCP have already confirmed that a hybrid rebalance will be summer 2012 at the soonest.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:10:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
After about half an hour of searching and collating, I've created a list of all of winter's upcoming features, as well as listing the sources. After the winter expansion, I'll repost this thread on the new forums, noting what CCP did and didn't do.


Engine trails
Quote:
These were being worked on this release but most likely won’t make it in for the Summer expansion because there is more work to be done. If I had to guess I’d say they will go live during a month ending in “ber”.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadid=1508537



you took a "Soon" and slapped "this winter" on it. GJ!

Quote:

Other racial CQs
Quote:
and later this year we plan on deploying the remaining racial quarters to Tranquility

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2355



they did the later this year thing for 6 years on WiS why is it suddenly true?



Quote:

Establishments (Bars, clubs, corporate offices, booster selling, etc)
Quote:
and later this year we plan on deploying...the next Incarna feature, establishments

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2355



see above. Plus it took them 6 years to do one room - an that not even well

Quote:

New turret effects (Not to be confused with the currently new models)
Quote:
New turret effects, to go along with the new turret models, are slated to come out in the winter expansions.

http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2011/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_05_2011.pdf



huh I didnt know there were going to be multiple an not one

Quote:

Tornado
Quote:
It'll be after the Incarna release this summer--it still needs design work and porting into the game.

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1508537&page=2#34


note the complete lack of saying "this will be in the winter expansions"
Quote:

Bonus stuff:
Gallente/hybrid rebalance - Next Summer
Quote:
GALLENTE WEAPON REBALANCE FOR NEXT SUMMER.

http://www.evenews24.com/2011/07/30/eve-vegas-ccp-keynote/



also not Winter

Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:30:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Bitter bitter bitter bitter bitter bitter bitter

Ok, we get it. You're bitter.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:34:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Bitter bitter bitter bitter bitter bitter bitter

Ok, we get it. You're bitter.


Im bitter cause youre misleading or outright wrong? Troll more buddy

Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:36:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung

Im bitter

Yes, you are.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:39:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Originally by: Sullen Skoung

Im bitter

Yes, you are.


*feeding the troll

Actually I enjoy the game. How about you?

coolzero
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:43:00 - [14]
 

it will take as much time as duke nukem forever did...

me thinks to many resources are used for dust and wod


Reeno Coleman
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:44:00 - [15]
 

considering they took about three years to deliver a single frickin room....

we can be happy to see a second room 'til the end of the year, i don't really expect anything else except maybe some number crunshing for sc/0.0 rebalance.

And the Tornado... yeah.. dream on.

Beer'Can
Posted - 2011.09.03 10:52:00 - [16]
 

IF all this was in the next patch it would actually be a decent one for a change.

But i highly doubt it.

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:04:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 03/09/2011 11:04:21
I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Engine Trails- He said "month ending in "ber", but he did say what year. Not like it matters really.

0.0 Changes- It will probably be some nerfing of other areas and minor buffs to 0.0 Indy. I'm honestly not expecting much since they arn't even focusing on some of the main issues that are wrong with Indy in 0.0. SC nerf will probably be minor(small HP nerf, and either Fighters or FB only) so it won't change much. SoV changes I doubt will happen since I haven't really heard about any ideas they might have.

Other Racial CQs- This will probably happen but Establishments will prob be pushed back. I highly doubt they would release both in 1 expansion. Considering they haven't even been able to optimize the current CQs, I doubt they will open up the multiplayer aspect with Incarna in its current form. If they do expect more rage from peoples GPU blowing up.

3D nebulas- Prob will happen.

New Turret effects- Didn't they just add new ones in? I mean do we REALLY need no ones? Wheres the new/old cyno damn it.

Smuggling- Again doubtful without establishments.

Tornado- Possible though I have no idea why its taken them this long.

Next summer Hybrid Buff- LOL doubtful.

Beer'Can
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:08:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Tornado- Possible though I have no idea why its taken them this long.


Well if they did it quickly people would expect ccp of being capable, and expect more.

Captain Megadeath
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:19:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Indy Rider
Anyone willing to take a bet on the only thing we get this winter is a hybrid buff?


No, because CCP have already confirmed that a hybrid rebalance will be summer 2012 at the soonest.


As long as it is a hybrid buff and not just a blaster/Gallente buff then I'll be a happy bunny. Caldari gunboats need lovin' too.

Lyrrashae
Minmatar
Crushed Ambitions
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:19:00 - [20]
 

Not-lame cyno effect/animation we can haz (again), pls?

Anya Ohaya
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:27:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Indy Rider
Anyone willing to take a bet on the only thing we get this winter is a hybrid buff?


Wishful thinking.

Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:27:00 - [22]
 

I don't understand why people want engine trails. Would real Space even allow such a thing?

Now, a beefier warp tunnel, that's something to ask for.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:47:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 03/09/2011 11:47:59
Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
I don't understand why people want engine trails. Would real Space even allow such a thing?
Sure. Your engine spits out charged particles that glow until they've cooled/expended all energy/whatever.

Hell, it's more likely than seeing those laser beams… ugh

Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.03 12:12:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Lyrrashae
Not-lame cyno effect/animation we can haz (again), pls?

In the May minutes CCP were certain about adding engine trails for Winter.
They gave the general "We'll think about it." when it came to cyno effects.

Given how unlikely the engine trails are, this gives you an idea of the chance of new cyno effects Wink

However, in the "Devs answer your every question" thread, this was said:
Quote:
A new cyno graphic is in the pipeline along with most of the other effects in game. It’s very high up the priority list and will be one of the first effects we change once the new effects artist is up to speed. That’s right, we have a new effects artist who is going to do amazing things.



I honestly don't know why it's taking so long. I once dabbled in particle effect creation for a while, and it was easy to pump out something shiny and pretty. Get giant glow, make bigger over time, make it suddenly small at the end. Add a few shiny sparkles, pillars of light and you're set.
Then again, CCP tech is notorious for being difficult to work with Razz

Richard Hammond II
Posted - 2011.09.03 12:34:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet


I honestly don't know why it's taking so long. I once dabbled in particle effect creation for a while, and it was easy to pump out something shiny and pretty. Get giant glow, make bigger over time, make it suddenly small at the end. Add a few shiny sparkles, pillars of light and you're set.



Maybe CCP can hire you as you know how to graphics code MMOs

Shufly
Gallente
TRITANIUM MAFIA
The Ancients.
Posted - 2011.09.03 17:26:00 - [26]
 

Why the hell does it take so long to re balance a weapon system (hybrids) that has been unbalanced (poorly) for the last some odd years? I mean, really, next summer? To do some number adjustments? That's a half a damn year, and we're not talking about modeling new guns and such, just stats. What the heck?

Sorry If I'm a bit upset by hearing this, but it seems silly at the rate which it takes them to re-balance something so obviously in need of fixing. I mean, I've worked on game projects before with stats and such in previous employments, and it never took us this long to make balance update patches.

P42ALPHA
Gallente
Epidemic.
THE D0MINION
Posted - 2011.09.03 18:51:00 - [27]
 

LOL, believe it when i see it.Crying or Very sad

Phelan Votronski
Posted - 2011.09.03 18:58:00 - [28]
 

Pretty odd. After all you'd be the one to white knight them anyway even if they failed on each and every account.

Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
The Black Armada
Posted - 2011.09.03 19:01:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Zendoren on 03/09/2011 19:02:01
These are one of those times when you sit back and judge CCp on what they do not what they say!

Personally, that list looks awfully long and ATM I dont think the CCP devs (the few that still code FiS) have it in them to code all that.

On a up note, we don't have to worry about changes being held up by the QA department as from the looks of the 1.1 patch, they do not have one! Laughing

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.09.03 21:26:00 - [30]
 

I stopped listening to what CCP says it is going to do years ago.

Out of that list, the best you'll get is the racial CQs - so CCP can sell you a new sofa for it with NeX.

C.


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