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Clone3424
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:35:00 - [1]
 

We may no longer be trying to burn Jita and Amarr down but 3 months after monoclegate the general forums are still awash with rage.

I'm a bit miffed, but not at "The sky is falling" stage....yet. But had a company (any type) with healthy competition (I feel Eve does not have a good competitor) had 3 months of venom on its public pages I feel it would have been damaged more than Eve has at this time. This is temporary CCP, and more luck than skill at this point.

I'm aware CCP will only listen to "what we do" but failed expansions and patches have left me less angry and more.........Shocked

Salicaz
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:38:00 - [2]
 

<< Main. Why does the forum never remember? Laughing

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:38:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Clone3424

I'm a bit miffed, but not at "The sky is falling" stage....yet.


Can I just have some of your stuff then?

Diondra Reuben
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:38:00 - [4]
 

But there is no competition in this market...so IMO, it's a smart move...coming from a CEO perspective...

Salicaz
Caldari
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:40:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Diondra Reuben
But there is no competition in this market...so IMO, it's a smart move...coming from a CEO perspective...


It's not really. It's a temporary reprieve. Rats can't leave a sinking ship, but if it gets to port just in time they won't stay on it.

XIRUSPHERE
Gallente
Deadly Intent.
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:41:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: XIRUSPHERE on 02/09/2011 19:41:08
I believe hate is too strong a word. Metagaming, trolling, general poking and prodding and lulz are abound. Incarna pretty much turned GD into a cesspool that eclipsed caod.

Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:43:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: XIRUSPHERE
Edited by: XIRUSPHERE on 02/09/2011 19:41:08
I believe hate is too strong a word. Metagaming, trolling, general poking and prodding and lulz are abound. Incarna pretty much turned GD into a cesspool that eclipsed caod.

And somehow this isn't considered a bad sign?

Denidil
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:01:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Discrodia
Originally by: XIRUSPHERE
Edited by: XIRUSPHERE on 02/09/2011 19:41:08
I believe hate is too strong a word. Metagaming, trolling, general poking and prodding and lulz are abound. Incarna pretty much turned GD into a cesspool that eclipsed caod.

And somehow this isn't considered a bad sign?


if it wasn't for the fact that 90% of the noise is a bunch of chicken little bull****. then yeah it would be a bad sign. but most of the noise is a small number of very squeaky wheels talking out of their collective ass.

Covert Kitty
Amarr
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:03:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Covert Kitty on 02/09/2011 20:03:19
Most of it is deserved. It's proper to be fairly p|ssed off when CCP's priority seems to be spending huge amounts of time developing features that add no gameplay and are designed solely to extract more money from the community. This, in a game that is quite frankly, very unpolished, and has a huge laundry list of things that need to be improved on.

So yes, people are p|ssed when yet another expansion goes by where the fundamentals of the game are ignored for MT cosmetic BS.

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:03:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Diondra Reuben
But there is no competition in this market...so IMO, it's a smart move...coming from a CEO perspective...


Not online, but the X series is everything you could wish. I've just been tinkering with my copy of X3 and that game is more amazing than what I remembered (towing asteroids... that was serious fun!) Same species, different breed. But if CCP hasn't got their homework done by either November or the release of X Rebirth, I will go offline for a change.

Solj RichPopolous
Amarr
Templars of Space
Northern Associates.
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:10:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Solj RichPopolous on 02/09/2011 20:10:34
Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Originally by: Diondra Reuben
But there is no competition in this market...so IMO, it's a smart move...coming from a CEO perspective...


Not online, but the X series is everything you could wish. I've just been tinkering with my copy of X3 and that game is more amazing than what I remembered (towing asteroids... that was serious fun!) Same species, different breed. But if CCP hasn't got their homework done by either November or the release of X Rebirth, I will go offline for a change.


If only X3 was a MMO. Kinda get that feel that it should be. I love the game my only problem with it is when i realize there's nobody around me but NPCs and I get sad.

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:25:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Diomedes Calypso on 02/09/2011 20:26:55
Irritation is more like it.

Irritation and frustration.

Also a "missgivings about the future of gaming" (i'd use the word fear yet of course its' not fear like losing a job or having your child kidnapped, or dying to cancer....)

There is a segment of gamers who want something that this game has had that others do not have. The few other games that i've seen trying to go there are in their infancy and if EVE moves away from showing the niche works, its less likely that others will persist with the model or get funding to do so. I've not been impressed too much with those games comittment to sandboxes either.

Eve has retained players at an incredible rate and attracted players in an admirable rate (only eclipsed by maybe 10% of the releases and even there, most with huge huge finacial investments in them)

Instead of remaining a moderately growing cash cow, they're leaping for bigger potential by (what many believe) catering to a less intense, level of player who find the complexity not a feature, but daunting. What many find as a joy to dig for details about on third party sites and love the idea there are wide swaths of the game that they haven't seen after years or play that could be available, a lower level gamer expects to see all content with a limited time investment...

ok.. all stop with all the detailed speculation with each detailed point subject to certain levels of scrutiny about exactly wide-spread any one point is. (and people start looking for black white answers instead of conceding a point is partly true and influential if some people, not all react that way... )

Bottom line is, not only are we possibly faced with a game less interesting because of goals to work not towards making it more enticing to the gamer wanting it more complex

.. but we're also ****ed that a model of finacial success catering to that sort of group is being destroyed, hence less likely to be replicated. That's a meta level but a very important meta level that will keep people complaining instead of moving on, or perhaps out of gaming.

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:28:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Solj RichPopolous
Edited by: Solj RichPopolous on 02/09/2011 20:10:34
Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Originally by: Diondra Reuben
But there is no competition in this market...so IMO, it's a smart move...coming from a CEO perspective...


Not online, but the X series is everything you could wish. I've just been tinkering with my copy of X3 and that game is more amazing than what I remembered (towing asteroids... that was serious fun!) Same species, different breed. But if CCP hasn't got their homework done by either November or the release of X Rebirth, I will go offline for a change.


If only X3 was a MMO. Kinda get that feel that it should be. I love the game my only problem with it is when i realize there's nobody around me but NPCs and I get sad.


Yes, but you can't have a MMO like X3. There is no way to "joytick fly" a ship in a MMO. The feel of sailing over a big ship on your tiny fighter at a few m/s is something you can't experience online... my, what memories. I was an expert docking my Battleship, what-was-its-name, and aligning at jumpgates with minimal maneuvering... right in the middle like a thread on the needle.

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:30:00 - [14]
 

It's like my mother used to say:

"If you don't have anything nice to say about someone on the internet, then that leaves only bad things to say about someone on the internet.

If there aren't any good or bad things to say about someone on the internet, then why are they on the internet in the first place?"


Digital Messiah
Gallente
N7 Corporation
PandaMonium.
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:43:00 - [15]
 

EVE has always had hate threads on the general forum. The issue now is that OP's and supporters get "fame" or attention for making the same screw this game threads. When in all reality it is doing nothing. Also I imagine toasters have gone up in price with recent sales. You know the long corded ones.

EI Digin
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:49:00 - [16]
 

Confirming that I do in fact hate the OP

Maiia Arlenne
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:51:00 - [17]
 

It really doesn't matter, because there is new fashion, fast fashion available at CCP's highly acclaimed new NeX store. Discerning capsuleers should buy now so as to show off their sense of style and good taste.

olimacus
Red Sky Morning
Posted - 2011.09.02 21:24:00 - [18]
 

Nobody cares.

Especially CCP.

Aniete Hetheres
Posted - 2011.09.02 21:24:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Aniete Hetheres on 02/09/2011 21:24:46
Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai


Yes, but you can't have a MMO like X3. There is no way to "joytick fly" a ship in a MMO. The feel of sailing over a big ship on your tiny fighter at a few m/s is something you can't experience online... my, what memories. I was an expert docking my Battleship, what-was-its-name, and aligning at jumpgates with minimal maneuvering... right in the middle like a thread on the needle.


This is a "joystick fly" game. It is not as refined as Eve, but it is a lot of fun. There is a joystick mode. So it is possible.
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Ethan Bejorn
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.09.02 21:30:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: olimacus
Nobody cares.

Especially CCP.


Apathy. I can hardly find the drive to post about how much I can't stand CCP these days anymore. Seems pointless. They just keep digging their hole deeper and deeper.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.02 21:53:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Clone3424
We may no longer be trying to burn Jita and Amarr down but 3 months after monoclegate the general forums are still awash with rage.



Question: when are they not?

Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.09.02 21:57:00 - [22]
 

People are afraid of change. So when something like EVE changes as much as it has, and continues to do so, you are witness to an explosion of people that don't "get it."

BLACK-STAR
Posted - 2011.09.02 22:15:00 - [23]
 

I don't think anyone is scurred of change it's how poorly handled the deployment was, lack of communication and content, deletions, overall being ignored, delayed fixes, and having to deal with melting hardware.

Please don't pretend or act like there isn't something wrong here, because there is..

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.09.02 22:23:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Malcanis on 02/09/2011 22:22:57
Originally by: Clone3424
We may no longer be trying to burn Jita and Amarr down but 3 months after monoclegate the general forums are still awash with rage.




Yeah it's almost as if not a whole lot of the problems people are annoyed about have been fixed.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.09.02 22:37:00 - [25]
 

Been here since '08. Been hearing CCP is the devil since '08. Been hearing EvE is dying since '08.

Also, everyone that thinks 'monoclegate' is a legit concern, GTFO already. You hate it? Bye. Vote with your dollar, not your tears.

Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.09.02 22:58:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: BLACK-STAR
I don't think anyone is scurred of change it's how poorly handled the deployment was, lack of communication and content, deletions, overall being ignored, delayed fixes, and having to deal with melting hardware.

Please don't pretend or act like there isn't something wrong here, because there is..


I could walk out into the streets and claim that the world is ending and that it's the governments' fault. I wouldn't be anymore "right" than the people spamming what used to be half decent forums.

I'm not pretending or acting as if something isn't wrong because I know that there is nothing wrong. I am simply capable of thinking without blinders.

Covert Kitty
Amarr
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2011.09.02 23:31:00 - [27]
 

Quote:
People are afraid of change. So when something like EVE changes as much as it has, and continues to do so, you are witness to an explosion of people that don't "get it."


That isn't it.

In fact it's the exact opposite. The reason most of us are angry is because things are *not* changing, that bug's, gameplay issues, bad interfaces and design that have been around for years are ignored. That feature wishlists, polish, and redesigning parts of the game are bypassed in favor of exploitative crap like the NeX.

I love positive change, and applaud it every time it comes. Getting rid of learning skills was great, Apocrypha was great, redoing the browser, mail, and contract windows were all great changes, as was incursions.

However there is also "change" that just obviously harms the game.

xxxTRUSTxxx
Posted - 2011.09.02 23:41:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Clone3424
We may no longer be trying to burn Jita and Amarr down but 3 months after monoclegate the general forums are still awash with rage.

I'm a bit miffed, but not at "The sky is falling" stage....yet. But had a company (any type) with healthy competition (I feel Eve does not have a good competitor) had 3 months of venom on its public pages I feel it would have been damaged more than Eve has at this time. This is temporary CCP, and more luck than skill at this point.

I'm aware CCP will only listen to "what we do" but failed expansions and patches have left me less angry and more.........Shocked



post from your main and stop being such a girly man. how long have you actualy played eve ?

BLACK-STAR
Posted - 2011.09.02 23:47:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
I could walk out into the streets and claim that the world is ending and that it's the governments' fault. I wouldn't be anymore "right" than the people spamming what used to be half decent forums.
I don't understand.
Originally by: Meryl SinGarda
I'm not pretending or acting as if something isn't wrong because I know that there is nothing wrong. I am simply capable of thinking without blinders.
huh. things can't be any more obvious? even if you aren't affected doesn't mean the problem isn't there. you should try thinking out of your bubble.

N1gella Laws0n
Posted - 2011.09.03 00:08:00 - [30]
 

GD might well be full of hate, but full is a relative term.

A thimble can be full of whiskey, but it won't get you drunk.

GD feels like it is missing about half it's normal traffic. Dodixie doesn't have 24/7 jerks outside m20, you can even launch from Jita and not get locked.
People are missing in game, people are missing on the forum, way more than the PCU indicates.


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