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Riker Atros
Gallente
Intergalactic Expedition Division
Posted - 2011.09.01 21:21:00 - [1]
 

Were can I read about the whole player owned station thing, I want to try it out, but not sure how to go about it

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.09.01 21:37:00 - [2]
 

Do you mean station/outpost or starbase?

POS = Player Owned Starbase

There are guides in the forum resource sticky.

Officer Nyota Uhura
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.09.01 22:11:00 - [3]
 

Sir:

You are not ready to own a station.

As you seem to have no idea what to use a POS for, you shouldn't put up a POS, either.

I suggest you go back to L4 missions.

Xyolon
Posted - 2011.09.01 22:46:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Xyolon on 01/09/2011 22:46:38
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Outpost

Sphynix
Posted - 2011.09.02 11:22:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Officer Nyota Uhura
Sir:

You are not ready to own a station.

As you seem to have no idea what to use a POS for, you shouldn't put up a POS, either.

I suggest you go back to L4 missions.


But at least he's asking the right questions, instead of giving the standard narky answers.
You've got to learn somewhere!

Xearal
Minmatar
SOL Industries
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.09.02 11:45:00 - [6]
 

The big question is, what do you want to do with it?

If you got high standing with factions, you can put up a tower in high sec for research and manufacturing.

If you got enough experience and good backup, you can set up a POS for moongoo mining ( LEARN SPREAD FU!! )

Either venture is really more something you want to do when you have a corp/alliance backing you. You can't do it as 1 man corp.
( well you can, but the risks are a lot higher then, as somebody can wardec you and nuke your high sec pos, or just fly by your POS in low, and nuke it for ****s and giggles, or if they want that moon themselves. )

A POS is a pretty big commitment and requires a lot of attention and logistics to keep operational.
( hence as you're in an NPC corp, one of the above posters said you're not ready for it )

My corp owns a POS in high sec, with a few more in the alliance, it's a friggin deathstar, and we have a number of POS gunners around to man the guns if needed. As such, even with our near constant wardecs, nobody in their right mind dares attack our POS.
( unless they're prepared to lose fleets of battleships and capitals for the low sec posses my alliance owns.)

Last time they attacked one of our POSses, they brought 2 nyxes, a carrier and 3 dreads, along with I think 30-40 battleships.
At the end of the day, the POS was still standing, and they lost their carrier, their dreads, and most of their battleships.
Sadly we didn't have any HICs around to take on the nyxes. it was one awesome battle though.


Dorian Wylde
Posted - 2011.09.02 14:10:00 - [7]
 

First rule of owning a starbase, which you really need to know:

If someone wants it dead, it will die. This may be people with a legitimate grievance with you, or simple wanna-be pirates who decide to pick on you. There are ways to make it extremely difficult and time consuming to kill, but there is no way to make it invulnerable, even in a 1.0 system.

Xyolon
Posted - 2011.09.02 18:50:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Dorian Wylde
First rule of owning a starbase, which you really need to know:

If someone wants it dead, it will die. This may be people with a legitimate grievance with you, or simple wanna-be pirates who decide to pick on you. There are ways to make it extremely difficult and time consuming to kill, but there is no way to make it invulnerable, even in a 1.0 system.


He asked about stations (=outposts or conquered stations) not POSs.

Cyniac
Gallente
Twilight Star Rangers
Posted - 2011.09.03 16:25:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Riker Atros
Were can I read about the whole player owned station thing, I want to try it out, but not sure how to go about it


Hello Atros,

As Xearal says - the first you need to look into is what you want this thing for.

There are two very different things out there:

Control towers (often called POS - which I naively always thought actually stood for Player Owned Structure)

These can be anchored at any free mooon (only one POS per moon) in sec status 0.0 up through 0.7 (including WHs)

In empire space (sec 0.5 through 0.7) POS are used mainly as research centres, though sometimes as manufacturing bases in some very specialised situations. In order to anchor a POS there your corporation's average standings need to be 10 times the security of the system you are going to anchor at (i.e. for a 0.6 sec system your average corp standings with the faction that controls the system must be 6.0). Those POS are only vulnerable during a war and even then can only be attacked by fleets of battleships thus are fairly easy to either relocate or defend.

Starting in security 0.3 a few interesting things happen - POS start to become basis for much heavier industrial applications (moon mining, and reaction centres for processing of moon materials and gases to produce advanced manufacturing components for T2 and T3 production). However they are also more vulnerable given the fact that they can be attacked without a war declaration and by capital and supercapital fleets.

POS also a very specific use in nullsec where you hold sovereignty which is supercap production - I will not go into that at this point beyond saying that it is the only way to produce supercaps.


However there is something else which can be done - player owned stations which unlike a POS cannot be destroyed but can be conquered. These stations (for some reason sometimes called eggs ;-) can have facilities similar to the stations in highsec (albeit in a reduced manner and with different specific characteristics). They cannot be destroyed but can be conquered by the constant application of a superior force. They are also orders of magnitude more expensive to setup than a POS, and can only be deployed in areas where you hold sov.

One last note - maitaining these structures is logistically complex and a job which most people do not find entertaining in the least. You really need to think before you make such an investment.

TL; DR; Think first of what you need then decide what are the best tools to do it.

Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.09.04 07:58:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 04/09/2011 08:06:17
Originally by: Cyniac
These stations (for some reason sometimes called eggs ;-) can have facilities similar to the stations in highsec (albeit in a reduced manner and with different specific characteristics).

a station/outpost egg is the outpost before it has been built, i.e. the construction platform.

it is called "egg" because *gasp* it looks just like an egg (and because the real outpost will eventually hatch from it):

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I have never heard of a built outpost being referred to as an "egg".



Cyniac
Gallente
Twilight Star Rangers
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:41:00 - [11]
 

Thanks for the pretty pics Florestan! Now I've seen the egg.


 

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