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Posted - 2011.09.03 09:54:00 - [151]

0/5 - What Incarna?

Tub Chil
Posted - 2011.09.03 10:02:00 - [152]

if I had to choose between incarna and old station environment I'd go for an old one. I have it disabled now.
rated as 2
but need to say that this thing is not what incarna should be.

Lucien Visteen
Posted - 2011.09.03 10:03:00 - [153]


I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. And I'm looking forward to when we can get out of our quaters

Jack Paladin
StarFleet Enterprises
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.09.03 10:14:00 - [154]


- A huge step forward in further immersing Pod Pilot's into the world that is EVE
- An understandable work in progress but so far - it is stable

You got to have faith brothers! Less QQ more PewPew!

Cedille Mureau
Institute of Archaeology
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:38:00 - [155]

Edited by: Cedille Mureau on 03/09/2011 11:39:05
Originally by: Prince Spiderman
Why was Elite written in machine code? Because it was the 80th and not 2011 where time and life flows totally different.

Well, I might have put it slightly differently, but yes, the 80s, I assume you meant 80s not 80th, were really the stone age as far as games programming is concerned. What I tried to say is that given the resources and knowledge that current devs have it is shocking that B&B wrote such an immersive game with so little and yet CCP gave us CQ.

Ethan Bejorn
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:40:00 - [156]

Originally by: Jack Paladin

- A huge step forward in further immersing Pod Pilot's into the world that is EVE
- An understandable work in progress but so far - it is stable

You got to have faith brothers! Less QQ more PewPew!

Pod pilots are not supposed to leave thier pods. How is this immersive?

Additionally, how is opening up the agent or mission window on accident everytime you click somewhere in the CQ immersive?

I call troll.

New Eden Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:53:00 - [157]


Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.09.03 11:54:00 - [158]

Edited by: Meryl SinGarda on 03/09/2011 12:08:27
Originally by: Discrodia

Trolling comments: Hilmar is that you?

Non-trolling comment: There's a difference between a change for the better and a change for the worse, especially with MMO's, and compared to many MMO releases Incarnage was definitely a change for the worse.

Example of change for the better:
(One that I loath using) WoW's streamlining of group finding totally revamped finding instances after they released the second expansion, which was pretty much universally loved by both existing and new playerbase.

Example of change for the worse:
(One that I'm ashamed I fell for) CCP promised to give us Walking In Stations since before I started play ('07 if my memory stands). At first, it looked good enough, and there was a lot of optimism. Then the 'one more year' line started appearing. Ambulation/Incarna/WiS became something of a joke. Lo and behold, when they revamped the face gen for Incursion, Incarna was again talked about. There was a good amount of hope. CCP mentioned the possibility of clothing items for sale for RL money. Although grumbled about, most people assumed the stuff would be reasonably priced and still cool. Lo and behold, Incarna comes out, with all the much-touted interaction, customization, and coolness cut out. The NeX store is a disaster area, and not only is the whole thing underwhelming, but it removes most of the functionality from hangar view, it is dismally difficult to run, and there's no opt-out. Player rage ensues, something like 6k subs are cancelled, and CCP's damage control team fails utterly. I haven't heard if they've made the lost subs back from MT or new ones yet, but I highly doubt it.

And to your cute little edit, I believe he's referring to the latest FEAR game. IE, something that is comparable in detail to Incarna yet doesn't require the goddamn Monolith to run at decent framerates.

Alright, since you're raging especially hard, I'm going to respond.

First off, I'd just like to say that I am not trolling (or at least, wasn't trolling in that comment I made).

1. There's a difference between a raging, resistant-to-change derper and an open-minded gamer. You<Me

2. WoW is a horrible game and allowing people to skip exploration was probably the worst thing they could do. Are you saying CCP should cater to lazy gamers? I mean, I guess the equivalent would be the ability to always skip jumping through systems, as if you had some GM powered jump clone in every nook and cranny of New Eden.

3. The things you're complaining about here, in what you perceive as a major fail or what-have-you, are exactly that. A perceived failure because you can't see past the narrow tunnel you confine yourself within.

CCP promised Incarna. Here it is? No, here's the 1st stage.

CCP brings the NEX store. You are not forced to use it. You are simply grasping at straws, jumping on a bandwagon and being a bitter derp.

And if you actually had a computer, you know, one worth running, you wouldn't be having any of the hardware or execution problems that you speak of. I don't think CCP owes you an apology for keeping your 486.

What I'm trying to say here, is this: You and most of these other whiners, are impatient, un-thinking, "I want it NAO!" slap-tards. You just don't get it and no matter how many times it's explained to you, these threads will keep showing up and people will continue to cry and make generalizations like "WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GAME ABOUT SPACEHSIPS?!? HERPA HERPA" or, "YOU SUPPORT CCP AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING? YOU MUST BE STUPID CAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR EVE, NOT YOU."

Go back to your hole and please, stay there.

Edit: Oh, those 6k people? We didn't need them. Let them go back to WoW.

Y Berion
Posted - 2011.09.03 12:54:00 - [159]


Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2011.09.03 13:57:00 - [160]

Rating it would require it to have useful content as an expansion..

Posted - 2011.09.03 14:16:00 - [161]

2/5 Poor, as in incomplete.

Personally for me incarna feels like an incomplete mess. Even if I would include the turrets, as being a caldari pilot I wouldn't notice much of a difference since I mostly stick too heavy missile launchers. The CQ has been turned off from the beginning (since that option was available), sometimes I turn it back on to see what has been updated with the newest patches. But to be frankly honest, I don't see much of a difference since incarna first got released till the day we are at right now (incarna 1.1). Most of the updates were probably bug fixes that I could normally not trigger, or they added an extra light here and there...

I understand why people got so upset about ship spinning being taken out, because without CQ, pre incarna and aft incarna would still feel like a similar game thus its just Eve Incursions with an additional door picture ;)

STD contractors
Posted - 2011.09.03 14:24:00 - [162]


Epic DaSoto
Posted - 2011.09.03 15:57:00 - [163]


not a great expansion but definitely not the reason for the massive attack of QQing on the forums.

Posted - 2011.09.03 16:28:00 - [164]

Less than 1.

Now almost 2 years into this game I am about to the point that I wonder how much longer I will play, even if they make it free.

The game is just basicly non stop stupid, Incarna just made it more so.

Posted - 2011.09.03 16:32:00 - [165]

Originally by: Black Dranzer
Well, it's been a couple of months since Incarna hit, and now that we've had plenty of time to mull over it, I'm actually curious as to STATISTICS.

What's your opinion of Incarna? Keeping in mind, when I refer to Incarna, I refer strictly to the CQ part, not the turrets or any other part of the patch.

1: Bad
2: Poor
3: Average
4: Good
5: Great

In the name of not biasing the audience, I'll refrain from giving my own opinion. Also, don't bring in your alts to vote; This is about collecting opinions, not ****waving.

4 and a half.

Hmm, make that 3.5 due to latest patch, though incarna without this weeks patch 4.5

Posted - 2011.09.03 18:32:00 - [166]

2 1/2

Posted - 2011.09.03 18:53:00 - [167]

1/5 With all the hardware issues and heat issues deffintly a 1 Massive Fail on docking more than 2 toons at any given time... GFX look nice but it's all Fluff... Wheres the content... wheres all the Fix's Shocked hopefully they do Fix's before they do more stuff with incarna..

Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2011.09.03 21:09:00 - [168]

Edited by: Aessaya on 03/09/2011 21:13:10

ninja edit: Yes, that is a negative number, because to me, everything about incarna is negative. No new features and loss of features i was used to (ship spinning and hangar functions, anyone?).

Forum Worrier
Posted - 2011.09.03 21:15:00 - [169]

I'll give them a 4/5 for now. I'll give them a proper rating once Incarna has been fully implemented and not jump on the hate boat and pass judgement on something that is being released incrementally.

Kazrael Starseeker
The Night Crew
Posted - 2011.09.03 21:16:00 - [170]

In the first two weeks of incarna:

When I realized there was really no new content, and then even the other races quarters were delayed :

I live in a fraken wormhole, basically incarna for me is - tractor beams and colored lasers. More of a cool patch than an expansion.

FLINX 0220
The Night Crew
Posted - 2011.09.04 16:40:00 - [171]


It was a great patch, bad expansion.

Posted - 2011.09.04 17:03:00 - [172]


I do believe that at least 95% of Eve players have CQ disabled.

Interrobang Inc.
Posted - 2011.09.04 17:20:00 - [173]

I honestly respect their idea, on paper. But they just ****ed up so bad. The performance issues are well known, and their microtransactions are ridiculous, especially considering it's a subscription based game...

Pablo Amadeus Zekairra
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.09.04 18:00:00 - [174]

stands at 0.
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New Comic.
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Posted - 2011.09.04 18:19:00 - [175]


Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2011.09.04 18:36:00 - [176]

Originally by: Ethan Bejorn
Pod pilots are not supposed to leave thier pods. How is this immersive?

Pod pilots are not supposed to leave their pods? Laughing

Cthulhu F'taghn
Posted - 2011.09.04 18:51:00 - [177]


turned it off after 5mins

Posted - 2011.09.04 19:44:00 - [178]

1/5 ( for the moment)

Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.09.04 19:47:00 - [179]

Originally by: Aldan Romar
Originally by: Ethan Bejorn
Pod pilots are not supposed to leave thier pods. How is this immersive?
Pod pilots are not supposed to leave their pods? Laughing
It's a disgusting, degrading and thoroughly unpleasant experience that reduces you from an unkillable god with the might to destroy millions of lives with a mere thought into a hunk of useless, worthless, weak and pitiful meat.

So no, they're not supposed to do it with any regularity if it can be at all avoided.

Posted - 2011.09.04 19:49:00 - [180]


some minor problems,which can be ironed it, but otherwise great! best update for some time

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