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Spenser for Hire
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:20:00 - [1]
 

Honestly, the Gallente don't strike me as a race that would even be capable of Space-Flight, let alone Space-Combat. Everything the Gallente have sucks! Hybrids??? Railguns??? Blasters and super-slow ships??? The Proteus??? Oh god, could the Proteus have been more disappointing???

For the longest I've heard all this talk about how great T3 ships were, how they were great for lvl 4 missions, and how they do lvl 4 missions so quickly. After 4 months of training, and 500mil isk, I get a Proteus and ... its worthless! Its equiped with t2 railguns that do so little damage (except against frigates) that the rats completely rep the damage instantly! If it weren't for my drones I'd never get through a lvl 4 mission at all!

Really, shouldn't it have been the Gallente and not the Minmatar that were subjugated and lived in slavery? If the Amarr were a real people that's what they'd be saying to themselves; "We Should have enslaved the Gallente!" Seriously, the Gallente are so weak that if this were a real universe every faction with ships would have a sector of Gallente space.

Realistically, every other faction would have made ships with a bonus to Smartbombs and the Gallente would have been wiped out.

TriadSte
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:27:00 - [2]
 

You fit rails to a Proteus and come here and whine? You fail...

MWD and Blasters rip through missions like crazy


Delta Jax
NixCraft
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:27:00 - [3]
 

mmm.. 0/10, played it a bit too heavy on the sarcasm

But I'll bite and say if your serious, proteus can pwn if you fly it right and it's not a mission boat derp

Demonfuge Malevolent
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:28:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Spenser for Hire
Really, shouldn't it have been the Gallente and not the Minmatar that were subjugated and lived in slavery? If the Amarr were a real people that's what they'd be saying to themselves; "We Should have enslaved the Gallente!" Seriously, the Gallente are so weak that if this were a real universe every faction with ships would have a sector of Gallente space.


The Amarr didn't bother enslaving Gallente because they knew they sucked ;)

Io Triumphe
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:28:00 - [5]
 

As a Gallente pilot, I have to respond to this slander. I won't engage in hyperbole or personal attacks. Instead, I have created (posted at the bottom of this post) a comprehensive list of all the things that are great about Gallente and their ships. Deal with the FACTS if you choose to respond!!!

Complete list of Pro-Gallente truths:
1. The Iteron, when trained to level five can haul a lot for an industrial.
End of List

Now that all the good stuff about Gallente is out there we can continue this discussion.

Whiny McEmokid
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:29:00 - [6]
 

came to this thread hoping for a support group for self harmers. Left looking for my razorblades.

Enuen Ravenseye
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:46:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Io Triumphe
Complete list of Pro-Gallente truths:
1. The Iteron, when trained to level five can haul a lot for an industrial.
End of List


You forgot:
2. The stunning aesthetics and sleek lines of the Giant Space Turd: the Dominix.

Gefen Orion
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:48:00 - [8]
 

The Proteus can be used for lvl4 missions, fit it with blasters and mwd and you're good to go. Just dont compare it to a Tengu.

Proteus shines in pvp, imo. The EHP of this t3 cruiser can go up to crazy levels with the right fit. High EHP, blasters, ecm drones...not to mention the ability to cloak...makes this ship really effective in low sec and null sec adventures.

Gallente ships can be effective. As long as you know its strengths and weaknesses. I agree that they do need some love from CCP, but what can you do? heh.

You can start training for a tengu...or learn to live with the proteus...=)

Dinsdale Pirannha
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.01 11:53:00 - [9]
 

I think you have to add the Ishtar as an excellent L4 AFK mission-runner (get all aggro in a room, fire up an a/b, orbit something, release the hounds and have a nap) and even better null sec plexer (2 high utility slots for a scan probe launcher and cloak).

The passive shield tank Myrm is also the best BC in the game for L3's and L4's, and a great boat for newer players to grind mission ISK in.

After that, yeah, we Gallente pretty much do suck.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.09.01 12:01:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Thornat on 01/09/2011 12:03:09
It wasn't always the case, their was a time when Gallente was quite good, but through various patches, expansions and buffs but mostly neglect the gallente race in general has been becoming less and less valid. Great ships like the Daemos for example used to be exceptional. Dominix was once a viable battleship, not so much anymore. You still have some great ships though, its not a complete loss. The Nemesis is still i think one of the best stealth bombers. The intercepters are quite good despite their reliance on hybrid weapons. You have some of the faction ships like the comet that is quite good. Generally though most of the ships are outclassed by their counter parts from other races.

Just wanted to add that the Proetus is not on the list of bad Gallente ships. You might want to read up on proper fittings but thats actually one of Gallantes saving graces in my opinion.

octahexx Charante
Posted - 2011.09.01 12:02:00 - [11]
 

yeah until you drones hit the triggers and your drones and ship dies in a fire.
great planning there doc.

My Postman
Posted - 2011.09.01 12:06:00 - [12]
 

Proteus is a BLASTERboat, and it REALLY sucks for missioning. Its fairly good for PvP with said configuration and can tank like hell. If you want to mission, thinking of L4s:

Get Ishtar, or
get Domi, or
get Navy Domi, or
start crosstraining Caldari (Tengu, CNR), or Minnie (Maelstrom), or basically every other ship than gallente BS.

For further improvement, post your opinion in the "buff blasters and rails" threadnought.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:04:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Mr Kidd on 01/09/2011 15:05:32
Originally by: Spenser for Hire

For the longest I've heard all this talk about how great T3 ships were, how they were great for lvl 4 missions, and how they do lvl 4 missions so quickly. After 4 months of training, and 500mil isk, I get a Proteus and ... its worthless! Its equiped with t2 railguns that do so little damage (except against frigates) that the rats completely rep the damage instantly! If it weren't for my drones I'd never get through a lvl 4 mission at all!


The Proteus has very specific uses where it excels. PVE is not it. I fly a Proteus with cov-ops subsystem with 620DPS and 110Kehp tank with high resists. If I wanted to complex fit it I could get more still. You'll not find another T3 capable of that kind of damage and tank while utilizing the cov-ops subsystem. Fit correctly with cov-ops subsystem and in the right circumstances the Proteus is like a crocodile laying in wait. You never know its there until you're mauled by it and then it's too late.

Malken
Celestial Apocalypse
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:08:00 - [14]
 

Amarr didnt enslave gallente as they didnt want to dilute the slave genepool to the point that the slaves needs nurses to tend to them.

Hicksimus
Gallente
Mom's Friendly Spaceship Company
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:12:00 - [15]
 

It's kinda odd that I fly around with a cap stable mwd proteus going 1400m/s with 600+ dps and 700+dps omni tank(a rainbow tank that works in every L4) ripping through missions easily and without risk then because I'd swear that's a Gallente ship.

Nomad Vherokic
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:12:00 - [16]
 

Gallente cheese is the best cheese. Intaki burgers... mmmm...

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:13:00 - [17]
 

The Amarr didn't enslave the Gallente because it would have been too easy. One Punisher fires a beam and the whole French empire surrenders.

Milla Lekarariba
Minmatar
Capsuleer Profit Sharing Enterprise
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:16:00 - [18]
 

It's called having a democracy.....

Takatii
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:20:00 - [19]
 

LOL... Really?? There isn't a level 4 mission in the game I can't own in a PVE fit Proteus. And the Megathron is a great CR battleship for fleet combat. They just aren't in vogue anymore, what with Hellcat Abaddons and Tengu fleets being all the rage. For PVP, Minm is still where it's at. That's why I crosstrained into Minm cruiser the first chance I got... Very Happy

Shaalira D'arc
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:30:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Nomad Vherokic
Gallente cheese is the best cheese. Intaki burgers... mmmm...


What you need to try is some Intaki Fried Chicken.

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:34:00 - [21]
 

This is a compilation of some of my attacks, success/failures using the Proteus. Fast foward to 2:16 where you see the unsuspecting target just before I uncloak and grab him. It's all quite exciting.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:44:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Io Triumphe
As a Gallente pilot, I have to respond to this slander. I won't engage in hyperbole or personal attacks. Instead, I have created (posted at the bottom of this post) a comprehensive list of all the things that are great about Gallente and their ships. Deal with the FACTS if you choose to respond!!!

Complete list of Pro-Gallente truths:
1. The Iteron, when trained to level five can haul a lot for an industrial.
2: The Taranis is the best AF (yes it is)
3: The Proteus is the best heavy fleet tackler, also the cloaky proteus is p good for sneaking up on people and nibbling them to death/lighting a cyno
4: Lachesis is the only long range shield/skirmish tackler
5: The Phobos is the best lo-sec gate camp tackler.
6: The Dominix.
7: The Nyx. 'nuff said
End of List

Now that all the good stuff about Gallente is out there we can continue this discussion.


FYP

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:47:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Hicksimus
It's kinda odd that I fly around with a cap stable mwd proteus going 1400m/s with 600+ dps and 700+dps omni tank(a rainbow tank that works in every L4) ripping through missions easily and without risk then because I'd swear that's a Gallente ship.


The missiles my Tengu fire travel at >8,000m/s and do ~750 DPS. I can also select damage types if the target resists make it worth lowering that raw DPS by 20%

However, I do salute your willingness to make the best of a bad job.


o7

Captain Hindsite
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:48:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
This is a compilation of some of my attacks, success/failures using the Proteus. Fast foward to 2:16 where you see the unsuspecting target just before I uncloak and grab him. It's all quite exciting.


This is an excellent compilation and should be studied by all budding pvp'ers. Very exciting indeed.

Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:50:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Io Triumphe
As a Gallente pilot, I have to respond to this slander. I won't engage in hyperbole or personal attacks. Instead, I have created (posted at the bottom of this post) a comprehensive list of all the things that are great about Gallente and their ships. Deal with the FACTS if you choose to respond!!!

Complete list of Pro-Gallente truths:
1. The Iteron, when trained to level five can haul a lot for an industrial.
2: The Taranis is the best AF (yes it is)
3: The Proteus is the best heavy fleet tackler, also the cloaky proteus is p good for sneaking up on people and nibbling them to death/lighting a cyno
4: Lachesis is the only long range shield/skirmish tackler
5: The Phobos is the best lo-sec gate camp tackler.
6: The Dominix.
7: The Nyx. 'nuff said
End of List

Now that all the good stuff about Gallente is out there we can continue this discussion.


FYP


^^This^^

Yeah Gallente are far from perfect and Hybrids need a little love but they are far from useless. I mean come on they could have it worse they could be Caldari.

MeestaPenni
Gallente
Mercantile and Stuff
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:54:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
This is a compilation of some of my attacks, success/failures using the Proteus. Fast foward to 2:16 where you see the unsuspecting target just before I uncloak and grab him. It's all quite exciting.


Excellent example of a short range tackle.

Shaalira D'arc
Posted - 2011.09.01 15:57:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Mr Kidd
This is a compilation of some of my attacks, success/failures using the Proteus. Fast foward to 2:16 where you see the unsuspecting target just before I uncloak and grab him. It's all quite exciting.


This should be the winner of the 'EVE is real' contest, hands down.


 

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