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Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.01 04:38:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Yecker on 06/09/2011 02:05:09
Edited by: Yecker on 01/09/2011 16:49:37
Loan filled privately.

Sincere thanks to those who did offer. Wink











Serene Python
Posted - 2011.09.01 04:46:00 - [2]
 

If I licked your face from your chin up to your eye brow, how would that make you feel?

Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.01 04:51:00 - [3]
 

The answer to that would depend on your gender in RL.

Speccer
Cossette Moana
Posted - 2011.09.01 06:57:00 - [4]
 

Your only post history is you attempting to sell this character which in itself is an alarm bell. However you are a 2004 character and according to the CaliphLoanAlgorithm™ you are entitled to one billion isk per year of character age Rolling Eyes . Good luck.

Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.01 07:01:00 - [5]
 

Yep, that was before I decided to use this "aged" character to station trade. Had someone been interested in the character before, I would have sold it and used a different one.

No funny business whatsoever - but thank you for your post!

Skylla Pardus
Posted - 2011.09.01 07:04:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Skylla Pardus on 01/09/2011 07:04:43
So you've played on and off since 2004 and have no collateral? Even if it's true it's fishy.

Edit: Alt post again Confused

Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
Posted - 2011.09.01 07:04:00 - [7]
 

Any collateral?


SH

Tekota
The Freighter Factory
Posted - 2011.09.01 07:10:00 - [8]
 

It seems you left the eve board link open from when you were selling this char.

So, if you've been enjoying your station trading and have a pretty firm grip on it etc etc, why haven't you trained anything other than Trade 4 and Retail 4? No accounting, no broker relations, no margin trading or remote orders?

With a skill discrepancy between what you say you do and what you appear to do I'd be a tad suspicious.

Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.01 07:12:00 - [9]
 

@Skylla - Very long breaks inbetween then and now, and with different characters. Most of my eve time was spent mining (in the beginning) and/or PvP. Never got into production or anything (so no, I don't have any expensive shiny stuff lying around).

@Stealing - Unfortunately at this time all I have is cash and some various items around the universe...but nothing extremely expensive that I could call collateral. I appreciate your sincere question, though.

To everyone else: I know words are just words, but I'm just a regular, honest person looking at the possibility to take trading to the next level. I have nothing to hide, and if I have to do it on my own, I'm certainly prepared for the grind.

Question to experienced investors - what do you usually look for, for collateral? Ships, BPOs? And what kind of percentage are you comfortable with? Any info would help and be appreciated. Thanks.

Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.01 07:16:00 - [10]
 

@Tekota - Thank you for pointing that out, I just updated my API with eveboard, so it should reflect that in fact I am training the skills you mention.

Thanks.

Ellarya Sand
Posted - 2011.09.01 09:07:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Ellarya Sand on 01/09/2011 09:48:07
Reserve 500M for me please
If possible I would appreciate eve-profit.com (or similar) subscription and a couple of updates

Tom Hagen
Posted - 2011.09.01 09:27:00 - [12]
 

Hello Yecker,

I see that you have managed to fill half of the loan already.

I would be willing to fill the other half of the loan (500M), provided that you can collateralize it by at least 75% and let me hold the collateral. (~400 Mio market value). With collateral, I could also offer you a better interest rate @ 9%.

Any item that is accessible (i.e. HS location) and that can be liquidated would be accepted (eg ships, BPO, modules).

Let me know if you are interested, if so we can set up the contract later today.

Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.01 16:48:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Ellarya Sand
Edited by: Ellarya Sand on 01/09/2011 09:48:07
Reserve 500M for me please
If possible I would appreciate eve-profit.com (or similar) subscription and a couple of updates


Thank you Ellarya Sand, 500m spot reserved. Will absolutely provide updates here in this thread and am checking out eve-profit.com right now.

Caliph Muhammed
Caldari
Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:40:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 01/09/2011 19:00:30

Originally by: Speccer
Your only post history is you attempting to sell this character which in itself is an alarm bell. However you are a 2004 character and according to the CaliphLoanAlgorithm™ you are entitled to one billion isk per year of character age Rolling Eyes . Good luck.


There is more to it than just limiting the offer by character age, that's just a guideline to reduce risk. I know EVE is a game, but when people lose alot of ISK in a abuse of trust it drags the game down.

Scamming may be completely legal in EVE, and it should be because it creates freedom of choice, but people still hurt from a loss. Earning a billion ISK isn't a 5 minute procedure for the honest and losing it trying to befriend or help someone out really sucks. And despite the facade not everyone in EVE is mega rich. Most aren't.

When I read a offering I pay very close attention to every word or phrase written often reading it aloud to hear how it comes across. I then place the etymology of the phrases with a cultural, educational & social upbringing. From there I can deduce in a general sense where the person is coming from.

This offering in my best judgement comes across as sincere and i'd rate it relatively safe.

The poster could very well walk away with the ISK laughing but my better judgement tells me his personality type is one of a social nature. He would much rather have friends and status in the investment community than the ability to gloat over a trust exploit.

No investment can be deemed 100% safe without well assessed collateral but from my viewpoint this offer and the poster stand far above many more recent offerings.

Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.01 22:44:00 - [15]
 

@Tom - Thank you for your generous offer, however, I currently do not have anything for collateral. That will change in the future as I prepare for larger loans, but at this point I'm seeking investors willing to go with uncollateralized in exchange for a few more percentage points.

Again, my sincere thanks either way.


Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 01/09/2011 19:00:30

Originally by: Speccer
Your only post history is you attempting to sell this character which in itself is an alarm bell. However you are a 2004 character and according to the CaliphLoanAlgorithm™ you are entitled to one billion isk per year of character age Rolling Eyes . Good luck.


There is more to it than just limiting the offer by character age, that's just a guideline to reduce risk. I know EVE is a game, but when people lose alot of ISK in a abuse of trust it drags the game down.

Scamming may be completely legal in EVE, and it should be because it creates freedom of choice, but people still hurt from a loss. Earning a billion ISK isn't a 5 minute procedure for the honest and losing it trying to befriend or help someone out really sucks. And despite the facade not everyone in EVE is mega rich. Most aren't.

When I read a offering I pay very close attention to every word or phrase written often reading it aloud to hear how it comes across. I then place the etymology of the phrases with a cultural, educational & social upbringing. From there I can deduce in a general sense where the person is coming from.

This offering in my best judgement comes across as sincere and i'd rate it relatively safe.

The poster could very well walk away with the ISK laughing but my better judgement tells me his personality type is one of a social nature. He would much rather have friends and status in the investment community than the ability to gloat over a trust exploit.

No investment can be deemed 100% safe without well assessed collateral but from my viewpoint this offer and the poster stand far above many more recent offerings.


@Caliph - Thank you very much for your honest assessment of the situation. You hit the nail on its head to say the least.

500m left on this - hoping to have it wrapped up soon so that I can go full bore on the market. Thanks.

Kei Darker
Posted - 2011.09.01 23:45:00 - [16]
 

I couldn't help but notice that the last two posters have very similar jackets to mine.
Good choice in styling, sirs.

trance atlas
Posted - 2011.09.02 00:16:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Caliph Muhammed
Edited by: Caliph Muhammed on 01/09/2011 19:00:30

Originally by: Speccer
Your only post history is you attempting to sell this character which in itself is an alarm bell. However you are a 2004 character and according to the CaliphLoanAlgorithm™ you are entitled to one billion isk per year of character age Rolling Eyes . Good luck.


There is more to it than just limiting the offer by character age, that's just a guideline to reduce risk. I know EVE is a game, but when people lose alot of ISK in a abuse of trust it drags the game down.

Scamming may be completely legal in EVE, and it should be because it creates freedom of choice, but people still hurt from a loss. Earning a billion ISK isn't a 5 minute procedure for the honest and losing it trying to befriend or help someone out really sucks. And despite the facade not everyone in EVE is mega rich. Most aren't.

When I read a offering I pay very close attention to every word or phrase written often reading it aloud to hear how it comes across. I then place the etymology of the phrases with a cultural, educational & social upbringing. From there I can deduce in a general sense where the person is coming from.

This offering in my best judgement comes across as sincere and i'd rate it relatively safe.

The poster could very well walk away with the ISK laughing but my better judgement tells me his personality type is one of a social nature. He would much rather have friends and status in the investment community than the ability to gloat over a trust exploit.

No investment can be deemed 100% safe without well assessed collateral but from my viewpoint this offer and the poster stand far above many more recent offerings.


you sound like raw and lauren promoting eve scams this is most dubious.


could he be your alt or a close friend perhaps



p.s i reckon so


p.s.s when i read a offering i do not do voodoo as you seem to use, i just randomly invest and i get great threads because of it ( i have been offered a leadership spot in goons because of my posts/threads(ask kalrand) pending my 350mil deposit(i talked him down))

dub v uses voodoo and well you can see how that goes.



Caliph Muhammed
Caldari
Caldari Naval Criminal Investigative Service
Posted - 2011.09.02 00:26:00 - [18]
 

I do not know nor have I had any contact with the original poster. Period.

Gustavus Adolf
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.09.02 01:24:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Gustavus Adolf on 02/09/2011 01:49:49
Originally by: trance atlas


you sound like raw and lauren promoting eve scams this is most dubious.


could he be your alt or a close friend perhaps



p.s i reckon so


p.s.s when i read a offering i do not do voodoo as you seem to use, i just randomly invest and i get great threads because of it ( i have been offered a leadership spot in goons because of my posts/threads(ask kalrand) pending my 350mil deposit(i talked him down))

dub v uses voodoo and well you can see how that goes.





Trance, there are adults here trying to conduct business. With all due respect, I'm not sure anyone here cares about your achievements and offers. It's more than a little off-topic.

trance atlas
Posted - 2011.09.02 01:57:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Gustavus Adolf
Edited by: Gustavus Adolf on 02/09/2011 01:49:49
Originally by: trance atlas


you sound like raw and lauren promoting eve scams this is most dubious.


could he be your alt or a close friend perhaps



p.s i reckon so


p.s.s when i read a offering i do not do voodoo as you seem to use, i just randomly invest and i get great threads because of it ( i have been offered a leadership spot in goons because of my posts/threads(ask kalrand) pending my 350mil deposit(i talked him down))

dub v uses voodoo and well you can see how that goes.





Trance, there are adults here trying to conduct business. With all due respect, I'm not sure anyone here cares about your achievements and offers. It's more than a little off-topic.





so... my third you must be new here has arrived i was fearful of this day but i feel i can perform admirably



you must be new here.



whoo that was a rush



the point i was making is that caliph akmed was spouting raw/lauren hate and acting all upinhere about someone talking about the legitimacy of a scam, then he posts
i myself would invest
i have a ton of cash(diff post)
but i wont invest

sounds silly ya?


i have so much isk and i think this is as close to a non scam as possible but i will give the interest to the little guy, im like that.


also adults troll


p.s im a adult

Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.05 06:59:00 - [21]
 

As Ellarya suggested, I should bump this thread to see if there are any more interested parties.

Again, my thanks to those who have chimed in with their experience and insight. Hopefully we can get this thing moving in the right direction soon.

Please contact me with any questions or concerns - I'd be glad to answer them.

- Yecker Smile

Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
Posted - 2011.09.05 10:49:00 - [22]
 

If we assume that you have been training the whole time you've been playing .. then WOW. You have 1.3mil SP. Which is what .. a month of playtime... since 2004?

I don't actually think this is a scam .. I would just doubt your ability to know what you're doing with my ISK.

I could flip 1bil on a market for about 2 hours, and make more than 11% on that .. so I think the scope of what you're doing, your skillset both SP and IRL are lacking from what your OP is proposing.

My suggestion? Learn what you're doing. A good trader could start from 100-200mil and finish on a billion ISK at the end of a week .. so you'd actually be making more ISK if you spent time there, instead of here writing posts.

Yecker
Posted - 2011.09.05 18:43:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Yecker on 05/09/2011 18:46:29
Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
If we assume that you have been training the whole time you've been playing .. then WOW. You have 1.3mil SP. Which is what .. a month of playtime... since 2004?

I don't actually think this is a scam .. I would just doubt your ability to know what you're doing with my ISK.

I could flip 1bil on a market for about 2 hours, and make more than 11% on that .. so I think the scope of what you're doing, your skillset both SP and IRL are lacking from what your OP is proposing.

My suggestion? Learn what you're doing. A good trader could start from 100-200mil and finish on a billion ISK at the end of a week .. so you'd actually be making more ISK if you spent time there, instead of here writing posts.


@Lady - With all due respect, I would assume that you would make the connection that perhaps this is a character on an account created long ago, which was recently revived for the sole purpose of trading. To assume this character is my only experience in Eve is a bit silly, don't you think?

I appreciate your advice - I really do. And it sounds as if you have great skill in trading, but as far as the isk amount - sure, someone could do well starting with 100m, but I'm not satisfied with "well". I'm seeking a larger starting capital for the purpose of taking it to the next level sooner than later. Anyone with an understanding of the markets can appreciate working with a larger bankroll up front - instead of nickel and diming it (not that I have anything against that).

Anyway, thank you for chiming in. Your unique insight has been a real asset to this discussion.

Atima
Minmatar
House of Marbles
Posted - 2011.09.05 18:56:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Atima on 05/09/2011 19:02:49
Would you care to share the name of your company and the sector you work in? Afterall it is free advertising for your self, and in small business your reputation is everything. I would like you disclose any alts you have and also their full API keys to myself privately.

If you have shown some dedication to eve in the form of a character with some reasonable SP's corp history and generally a background that suggests it is a main I will fill the whole bond.


 

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