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Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
Posted - 2011.09.02 15:20:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Dalloway Jones
Why must people whine about this? You think if they dissolve the CSM your sub fee is suddenly going to be ten bucks less a month? It is pretty cool that an MMO even has something like this. If candidates are elected that the public don't care about they have no one to blame but themselves.


Elected? Elected only works if you have a real election. Forum elections are only for forum trolls, which is a tiny fraction of the player base.

Look at the last Crowd Source, only 0.2% of the player base voted.

To draw any direction or design from the opinions of .2% of your customer base would be outright foolhardy.

Without an ingame election system that all players particiapte in the CSM program is a bad joke.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.02 15:35:00 - [32]
 

Quote:
"The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online, so the institution of the Council of Stellar Management is natural at this point," said Petur Oskarsson, CCP Researcher and project lead for the Council of Stellar Management. "The CSM will empower players with a formal communications channel to directly impact the development of their society as it grows more and more advanced."


damn funny quote now isnt it?


Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:11:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Breaker77
It was formed due to the T20 incident. If you don't know what that is, you have no right to complain about it.




Of course, they have absolutely no power to prevent another t20 incident.

Different csms have done different things. CSM 5 was there to represent the players and they did that as best they could.

This CSM 6? Well, they are sort of beta testers for new features, and a group that ccp can manipulate for pr.

Anyway everything worth knowing about what they do is nda, so they are irrelevant to the players.

Assemby hall and Jita corner are pretty much worthless forums as CSM 6 doesn't use them. They give information to players in ways where they can control what is said like in town halls etc. In other words they are worthless or worse.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.03 08:59:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Quote:
"The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online, so the institution of the Council of Stellar Management is natural at this point," said Petur Oskarsson, CCP Researcher and project lead for the Council of Stellar Management. "The CSM will empower players with a formal communications channel to directly impact the development of their society as it grows more and more advanced."


damn funny quote now isnt it?




Im still lolling having found that quote

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.04 08:44:00 - [35]
 

anyone wanna second this? lol
Even Mittens wants to burn it down now

Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.04 08:46:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Quote:
"The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online, so the institution of the Council of Stellar Management is natural at this point," said Petur Oskarsson, CCP Researcher and project lead for the Council of Stellar Management. "The CSM will empower players with a formal communications channel to directly impact the development of their society as it grows more and more advanced."


damn funny quote now isnt it?




Im still lolling having found that quote




YOU HAVE MY POST

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.04 08:57:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Trolls Troll
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Quote:
"The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online, so the institution of the Council of Stellar Management is natural at this point," said Petur Oskarsson, CCP Researcher and project lead for the Council of Stellar Management. "The CSM will empower players with a formal communications channel to directly impact the development of their society as it grows more and more advanced."


damn funny quote now isnt it?




Im still lolling having found that quote




YOU HAVE MY POST


Thanks for the bump, I appreciate it

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2011.09.04 09:03:00 - [38]
 

We don't need a CSM

CCP's PR department however....

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr
Divine Power.
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.09.04 09:11:00 - [39]
 

It's a forum to represent players' interests to CCP publicly and officially.
Which was an improvement from before, where players presented their interests to CCP covertly and unofficially.

Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
Posted - 2011.09.04 09:19:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Desert Ice78 on 04/09/2011 09:19:26
I always liked the idea of the CSM, and like so many other CCP ideas, it COULD be great.

But honestly, this current crop, with an egotistical (as in size of a small planet type ego) goon as chair?!?!!?!

What ****** thought THAT was a good idea. At least put in some sort of check to his "political meta-game."

Voivod Rhahk'an Anstian
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.09.04 12:10:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Voivod Rhahk''an Anstian on 04/09/2011 12:23:54

We don't need CSM, CCP needs it because it make them look kewl among other MMORPG companies. Pure advertising thing.

If they really wanted to hear our opinions about this and that they would include some sort of poll mechanics within the client so everyone playing (and paying for) EVE would be able to provide simple and DIRECT feedback on different matters - not only tiny minority who lurks forums on regular bases, knows for hillarious fairytale called CSM, some even voting for it.


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