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Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:11:00 - [1]
 

game sucks for long tiem now
community gets sucky more and more
time to fold

-3 accounts, 9 alts, 250m sp

ps; the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:16:00 - [2]
 

General "health" of the game will obviously have a effect on the way the community acts. If the game is being ignored, sucks, broken then the community will have more to vent about. Once this raging starts its a downhill spiral unless CCP does something to resolve the concerns. Sadly CCP just fans the flames with **** up after **** up.

Bolloxx
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:16:00 - [3]
 



Yeah right :)




Van Upier
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:18:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Mr LaboratoryRat

ps; the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.


Game sucked because you were playing it. Thanks for the ISK.

Nemesis Factor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:18:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Nemesis Factor on 31/08/2011 20:20:39
I'm going to say it's CCP's attitude toward Eve in general recently. For the past couple of years CCP has invested less and less in Eve, even though they have been making more and more from it. This has led to incomplete, underwhelming and unwanted updates in the eyes of many players and they has starting turning on CCP and the game.

See Soundwaves Q&A at PAX. They just don't have the resources to invest in Eve as they did years ago. They're taking their Eve money and putting it into projects that hold little interest to the Eve community. Feeling ignored will obviously anger the playerbase.

Edit: I have never owned more than 1 billion isk, looking forward to blowing it on monocles.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:21:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Mr LaboratoryRat
game sucks for long tiem now
community gets sucky more and more
time to fold

-3 accounts, 9 alts, 250m sp

ps; the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.


Goons took over

Zaara Arran
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:22:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Zaara Arran on 31/08/2011 20:22:41
The game 'sucks' because the players it has attracted are the socially ******ed members of society. No other current MMO encourages scams, betrayal, metagaming, espionage, trolling, griefing, and general asshattery like EVE does. It's not the game. It's YOU.

You're asking why a place filled with SomethingAwful goons, Dreddit trolls, and all manner of misfits and malcontents is suddenly a bad place to be?

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:23:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Mr LaboratoryRat
game sucks for long tiem now
community gets sucky more and more
time to fold

-3 accounts, 9 alts, 250m sp

ps; the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.


GoonsRussians took over


Fyp

N1gella Laws0n
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:25:00 - [9]
 

I think the most recent terrible development is the number of people posting Enticement Threads getting us to slate CCP for the lure of isk that will never come.

They do suck though don't they?
Buy 200 monocles and self destruct them. CCP Soundwave will get Employee of The Month and a golden lollipop to stick where ever he chooses, if you buy 200 monocles. It's in his Contract Of Employment.

Puppet Mas'ter
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:27:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Puppet Mas''ter on 31/08/2011 20:27:18
Because this is the Mos Eisley of MMOs?

An yeah, Russians win.
They own what 75% of 0.0?

Lord Bel'Garion
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:41:00 - [11]
 

Hello - I doubt i will win but i will give my two sence.

Since 2003 the EvE game itself has gone downhill. When the game first came out there where strict rules on PvP and High Sec playing. Mission runners could earn almost as much as 0.0 players with risk from war decs but they where few and far between. The Null sec side became more popular and more alliances formed and more powerblocks became effective.

Which in effect caused a knock on effect. If you held space you had to fight for it by doing the 40 jumps and logistics where a key role and players like myself where an asset to alliances.

With the constant PvP whine of *lack of targets* in Null Sec CCP folded and began to nerf high sec to try and force players into low security space. This failed and caused the game to stagnate. However that being said, the game did pick up and became popular again. Unfortunatley that did not last long.

With the introuduction of new more powerful ships PvP became one sideded. With blobs taking more effect and solo pvp sort of went out the window driving off yet more players but attracting more griefers into the game. With the introduction of *neutral rep alts* the grief corp magnertude went up and empire became more dangerous. Problems and bugs became forgotten about unless the PvP players whined the loudest.

With the introduction of the CSm players began to feel it was worth and came back, that however became pointless as we soon relalised that the CSM was out to serve itself, the current leader the CSM is a prime object of said argument.

With cap ship introudction, the bot alliances begane to control the market forcing prices up, but empire living and even null sec living became less profitable creating a one sided market issue. CCP again refused to listen to the player base and turned a blind eye.

They where forced to bow to CCP and say what they wanted the players to hear and do the complete opposite. CCP then tried to reason with PVE players by nerfing null sec. This just lead to an even smaller population in null sec. Now wormholes came in and there was no local so wormholes became pointless, dangerous and a waste of time without a blob.

At this point, the game became to stagnate even more and now stands as it does with small corps being penalised, griefer corps on the rise and null sec dieing slowly.

With the DRF destroying null sec alliances and grifer corps running rampant, i feel that CCP is on borrowed time and that eve itself is dieing very slowly.

In short, CCP refuses to listen to the player base or take into account anything we have to say. With TEST and GOONS being prime objects in the argument and the DRF botting null sec drone space, market prices are rising, profit is falling and plex is rising.

With the intro of NEX and AUR, the game for the wealthy is getting one sided and new players have no protection. CCP will need to address this but fail to. I dont know why. But they do.

My sympathies that you are leaving, the fact you are, computes the very problem in eve, vets are leaving because they have had enuff.

Anyay, just my point of view, please forgive the grammar, slightly dislexic.

Shizo Lang
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:41:00 - [12]
 

The game doesnt really suck first of all, i think the game sucks to you because you havent taken a break yet, redefined your own goals, or have seen everything and are waiting for that new thing to come to eve "which" you cant see in near future.

Speaking for me i also have concerns with some developements i dont like:

- Looking on the sov map makes me sick because more than half of the current space is owned or rented out by one fraction and there is no oposition to even think of that would solve that problem other than internal drama maybe.
- All the Rmting and that Botting players get "warnings" and no perm ban right away when CCP can prove it.
- Alot of regions are just empty because they belong to blown up alliances that just rent out space.
- Roleplaying died long ago :-(
- Its all about supers, metagaming etc at the big levels which is really frustrating.
- No visions about THEIR null sec territory from any alliance (exept nrds if it still exists and that one chribba station in providence everyone can dock)

The community got broken because of the lack of idealism and too much trolling.

:-)

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:44:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Mr LaboratoryRat
ps; the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.


It's not that the game sucks, it's that CCP's support of the game now sucks.

Folks were told to wait 18 months for something special, aka Walking in Stations (WiS.) People were willing to do without significant "Flying in Space" (FiS) updates for the promise and potential awesomeness of Walking in Stations.

CCP didn't deliver the shinies (aka new features.)

What CCP did deliver was underwhelming (Captain's Quarters isn't WiS) or was completely unrelated to FiS (NeX store) and was delivered incomplete (both CQ and NeX.)

Then there was the NeX "macro"-transaction pricing strategy and the threat of selling in-game advantages, which implied that CCP no longer understood their players.

At this point most folks realized that CCP cannot deliver the shinies in a meaningful time frame because a lot of CCP's resources have been reassigned to DUST and WoD development, and that CCP's future roadmap for Eve is to use Eve to prototype and test code and features for WoD and DUST.

Finally, this lengthy lack of attention to Eve has lead to gameplay imbalances spiraling out of control into critical gameplay problems (i.e. supercap blobs) and it has left good features incomplete (i.e. Faction Warfare.)

tl;dr People ran out of patience and trust in CCP, and they no longer believe that CCP is actively developing Eve to meet the interests of the FiS players.

IMHO.


Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:47:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 31/08/2011 20:50:08
The fault is two pronged and seems to be the number one thing that screws up MMOs these days.

Whining
and
CCP (or any gaming company) bending over for whiners

Originally by: Lord Bel'Garion
Problems and bugs became forgotten about unless the PvP players whined the loudest.


You missed T20 an the players losing faith with CCP. PPl like to think this didnt happen, but if you were there when it happened you know that we lost a lot of good, old, long time players on that one.

Love your name though, Got any other Sword of Truth characters here?

That Handsome Frog
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:47:00 - [15]
 

It doesn't suck. Now that you know that I enjoy the game and am willing to accept its imperfections and disillusioned ideas for the direction of the game, you can be sure that your isk and/or acc is in good hands Wink.

Dekiri
Gallente
Useless Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:48:00 - [16]
 

Eve rules, case closed you can send the billions to me thx=)

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:51:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Mr LaboratoryRat
game sucks for long tiem now
community gets sucky more and more
time to fold

-3 accounts, 9 alts, 250m sp

ps; the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.


Because of *******s like you.

Gimme your stuff.

Efraya
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:52:00 - [18]
 

Because of CCP.

Reeper 2435
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:55:00 - [19]
 

OP has best troll post. Promises of 900 Billion in isk to perpetuate a negative attitude.

Deposit said isk into my posting alt and i'll see that it gets distributed to every noob in the 12 training systems that are logged on when i get there.

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:55:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Mendolus on 31/08/2011 20:55:54


I'll believe it when I see it in my wallet, and I am known for my trustfulness, so I will gladly come here to confirm this is legit.

Reason why the game did or did not suck? After years of churning the subscriber base lost their imagination and passion for science fiction. Few things in life let alone video games are perfect, especially MMOs, but those who expect perfection (and therefore lack the imagination to understand what having character means) are the real problem.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:55:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 31/08/2011 20:56:44
Originally by: Lord Bel'Garion

In short, CCP refuses to listen to the player base or take into account anything we have to say.


Quote:
Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.


Dont see that changing

Welcome your Russian Overlords

Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:56:00 - [22]
 

Thread should be locked for trying to ruin other people's experiences.
Also, API key or GTFO.

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.31 20:58:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 31/08/2011 20:58:21

Because everyone involved, players and CCP, are gready little whinners.


Slade

Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.08.31 21:02:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Mr Kidd on 31/08/2011 21:02:25
Originally by: Mr LaboratoryRat

ps; the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.


I'll give it a shot being as succinct as possible. CCP management are douches.

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2011.08.31 21:02:00 - [25]
 

ISK and greed are why this game suck. Now give me the ISK. Confused

xanderh
Gallente
Emerald Industries
Posted - 2011.08.31 21:07:00 - [26]
 

Why Eve sucks is a very subjective question, and giving a definitive answer is very hard. There is a lot of problems, and not all of them apply to you. Most, if not all, of the problems can be backtracked to one major problem, though: CCP is giving us what they want to give us, or what they think we want, instead of asking us what we want and making a list of priorities. They also broke a promise to the player base, and added the nex store, which sucks.
Basically, the biggest problem is CCP giving us stuff we either don't care about, or really don't want added to the game, instead of what we would like to be added.

TharOkha
Posted - 2011.08.31 21:08:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: TharOkha on 31/08/2011 21:09:51
Originally by: Mr LaboratoryRat
the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.


Youre getting old. This is exactly how my grandpa talked. "good old times, everything is going to hell". EVOLVE-ADAPT-SURVIVE...

now wheres ma isk Wink

Ghoest
Posted - 2011.08.31 21:12:00 - [28]
 

EVE has become lame because CCP stopped creating in EVE(the space ship game) and started maintaining.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.08.31 21:21:00 - [29]
 

This game was fun when everyone competed with each other. ETC/PLEX killed that now its just CS in space.

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.08.31 21:23:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Mr LaboratoryRat
game sucks for long tiem now
community gets sucky more and more
time to fold

-3 accounts, 9 alts, 250m sp

ps; the person that makes the most accurate post why the game sucks and why the community got broken and its effects on ingame player communication and corporation/alliance interaction wins.


GoonsRussiansCCP accounting dept took over


Fyp


Fyp


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