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Calistai Huranu
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.09.01 19:36:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Can't wait to find out what you failed at this time around ..
The same things as last time, except maybe it's slightly harder to inject bad code.

It's still largely unusable if you turn scripts off — all the new features that would make a new forum worth-while cease to function since they rely entirely on JavaScript.

It still completely breaks standard browser behaviour, pretty much forcing you to turn scripts off to make your browser behave normally, which of course, as mentioned, breaks large portions of the forums.

It's still competes for hugeness with Roseanne's arse — no compression, tons of different CSS and JS and pointless graphical bling (all of it static content) spread over umptyeleven different files that aren't getting cached properly. It's an absolute HTTP request and bandwidth bonanza.

It's still completely disconnected from eveonline.com, so you have no links to the other useulf parts of the website (see everything that's in the sidebar).

It's still a stylistic mess, with redundant and repetitive elements all over the place, poorly placed buttons that beg for confusion and errors, and links and headlines that are completely inappropriate for the contexts they appear in.

It still has no settings… well, it has two or three, but they don't work, and if/when they work, they offer less customisation and options than the current forums offer.


And how many man hour's did they take this time to do such an :awesome: job we wonder?

Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.01 19:39:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Optional Patch
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Thank you for testing the log in feature! Embarassed We are looking into why it is timing out now.


omfg

The only thing the original forum needed was search.


And the ability to keep logged in...

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.09.01 21:46:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Optional Patch
The only thing the original forum needed was search.
For all intents and purposes, the new forums doesn't have it either, since the search requires JavaScript (specifically, jQuery) to work properly…

…and one of the things you'll probably feel like doing early on is to disable JavaScript (or at least block jQuery, specifically).

Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.09.01 23:05:00 - [64]
 

Why do you have a full team of people developing a new ****ing forum which no-one needs when you have only 1 guy (and newly appointed at that) looking after game design / balance issues. Do you not think your priorities as a business are completely ****ed up?

Jan Forjeu
Posted - 2011.09.02 00:40:00 - [65]
 

Here's a suggestion for you.
Fire all your html personel. Cancel your dust and emo vampire projects. Put all your efforts into making eve good.
This strategy will get you wow numbers of subsrcibers. No other will.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.09.02 14:13:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet

Maybe everything will be alright on the 5th, when it's officially released?

You need to read this thread to see just how far from "alright" everything is.

BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.09.02 16:48:00 - [67]
 

Yea, I see precious few "improvements". Basically CCP upgraded from 1998 to 2001. You look at modern forums and you expect certain things.

Email alerts have been standard on EVERY forum for 15 years. There is still no [img] tag, apparently nobody at CCP knows how to resize an image in any programming language and implement that. With no image tag, no images in signatures (at least no way that I can find). What forum these days doesn't have signature images? Apparently the new forums don't know how to escape characters, thus you can't post code/html on the new forums....

And then there's things that don't exist on every forum, but if they do, you expect them a certain way. Such as, if you have a way to +rep someone, then you have a way to -rep someone. Generally for indicating if you've read an entire forum section or if there's new posts, you have an icon that's either just an outline, or filled in, not two different icons both filled in. There is no option for color, size, or strike through. These things should be limited, but are still legitimately used in areas like the trade forums.

But meh, CCP will roll it out anyway. I'm just wondering if it'll stay up this time or not...

Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.09.02 17:50:00 - [68]
 

Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara on 02/09/2011 17:52:48
"Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request." returned on https://gate.testeveonline.com/LogOn/CharacterSelection when submitted (checked twice) with valid access credentials.

So, unable to access the test environment in a logged-in state.

UPDATE: WTF, I just realized that I am logged into the test site after having backed out of the error page to access the forum home page.

So, the forum engine throws an error when I'm trying to log in, logs me in and there is no clear indicator of the state of my log-in attempt.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2011.09.03 01:30:00 - [69]
 

I still cant color my lettering. :( RIP Limegreen

Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
Posted - 2011.09.03 04:19:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
I still cant color my lettering. :( RIP Limegreen

Are you a disguised alt of Miilla?

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.09.03 08:45:00 - [71]
 

Will all those threads about nullsec in F&I get transferred to the new forum or end up in limbo with the rest? Seems inconvenient to cut discussion in them off like that.

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:21:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
Will all those threads about nullsec in F&I get transferred to the new forum or end up in limbo with the rest? Seems inconvenient to cut discussion in them off like that.

A simple task like converting forum content from one format to another was beyond the capabilities of CCP's webdevelopers.
All they really know is how to create completely bloated javascript pages that makes a single pageload be up to a megabyte (or possibly more)...

Elyssa MacLeod
Posted - 2011.09.03 09:44:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 03/09/2011 09:46:00
Quote:
Remember, remember, the Fifth of September, the New Forum Treason and Plot. I know of no reason why the New Forum Treason should ever be forgot Goon Squad, t’was their intent to blow up our New Forums. Three score Threadnaughts struck a blow to prove old CCP’s overthrow


bah not perfect, Im on massive amounts of painkillers due to broken bones an its really early lol

Originally by: Abrazzar
Will all those threads about nullsec in F&I get transferred to the new forum or end up in limbo with the rest? Seems inconvenient to cut discussion in them off like that.


Lol Ima do a lotta copy/paste on monday if I remember to

Ydnari
Gallente
Estrale Frontiers
Posted - 2011.09.04 00:11:00 - [74]
 

Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet

Maybe everything will be alright on the 5th, when it's officially released?

You need to read this thread to see just how far from "alright" everything is.


Originally by: CCP Paradox

Originally by: malaire

When making post with & and # chars next to each other in Subject or Message, I get "We were ganked" error-page.


Do you have a legitimate reason for posting them next to each other?



Yep, this is going to be a disaster again - devs asking this sort of question shows a severe misunderstanding of how to write a web application.

Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.04 04:54:00 - [75]
 

I for one can't wait for the new forums.

I shall be amongst the first to harvest troll tears. Cool

Aint no fun, if the trolls cant have none.

Tokyo Rose
Posted - 2011.09.04 10:48:00 - [76]
 

New eve forums..

Does anyone really care a whit about new forums when the game is spiralling into the crapper?Neutral

Meryl SinGarda
Caldari
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.09.04 14:17:00 - [77]
 

It will be a glorious Monday. In fact, I suggest locking these forums now and playing a little clean house.

ChYph3r
Multiplex Gaming
Posted - 2011.09.04 17:53:00 - [78]
 

Whose betting that the New New forums are going to be fail as the last set of new forums!

Cedar Locus
Posted - 2011.09.04 22:13:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Cedar Locus on 04/09/2011 22:14:40
forums gonna fail like incarna was fail, like dust will fail

edit:forgot eve

*shakes fist at iceland*

Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.04 22:40:00 - [80]
 

What time will the new forums be deployed CCP, I would like to get some rest and be nice and fresh for when the tide is coming in, bait is already out of the freezer......

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.09.05 00:21:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Trolls Troll
What time will the new forums be deployed CCP, I would like to get some rest and be nice and fresh for when the tide is coming in, bait is already out of the freezer......


Has the answer ever been anything but "during downtime"?

Serious question as now I'm doubting myself, so many people not knowing has me questioning what I thought was an obvious known answer.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.09.05 03:50:00 - [82]
 

Why the **** can we not have embedded images?

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 05:03:00 - [83]
 

only good part of the new forum is no wait timer

Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.05 05:06:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
only good part of the new forum is no wait timer


+1

Tokyo Rose
Posted - 2011.09.05 05:44:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: Tokyo Rose on 05/09/2011 05:44:55
Originally by: Trolls Troll
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
only good part of the new forum is no wait timer


+1
Indeed. Rapid fire trolling will be back in season though I suppose with all the blocking its going to be a bit confusing to make any sense out of a thread with several different conversations going on because everyone has blocked each other.

edit: oh and spouting 'blocked!' everytime someone says something you don't agree with is going to be the new eve meme.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:10:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
only good part of the new forum is no wait timer

No. The ability to block posts by forum morons is going to be the best thing since sliced bread.

Rommiee
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:11:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Rommiee on 05/09/2011 07:11:38
And here we have another addition to the ever growing lists of:
“Things CCP screwed up”
"Things CCP forced on us that no one ever wanted”
"Things CCP said were fantastic new additions, but were really shiiit”

Way to go guys.....

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:27:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Jowen Datloran
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
only good part of the new forum is no wait timer

No. The ability to block posts by forum morons is going to be the best thing since sliced bread.


nah thats no fun cause then you cant see how mad youve made then
well itll be fun for US as someone else said in another thread, we'll get to watch threads where one half has blocked the other hale yelling at each other lol

Junky Juke
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.05 07:52:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: Junky Juke on 05/09/2011 07:52:29
CCP: Any news about the newcoming forums? today is the day!
I'm looking forward to the new forums, c'mon!!!! Wink

malaire
Posted - 2011.09.05 08:23:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Junky Juke
Edited by: Junky Juke on 05/09/2011 07:52:29
CCP: Any news about the newcoming forums? today is the day!
I'm looking forward to the new forums, c'mon!!!! Wink

Maybe at downtime? Still few hours to go...
Or if they still have huge bugs left, they might try to fix them until minutes before midnight ...


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