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Ildryn
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:07:00 - [31]
 

Most of the fits you see posted are also loot pinatas.
Easily suicide ganked by someone who wants your fittings more than you do.

Use all T2

CPU II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

XL Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
100MN Afterburner II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
Heavy Nosferatu II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

It's not cap stable but who cares. It annihilates all level 4 security missions.
You just spent near a bill on a ship. Don't spend more than 40mill on the fittings.



Dr Fighter
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:14:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Ildryn
Most of the fits you see posted are also loot pinatas.
Easily suicide ganked by someone who wants your fittings more than you do.

Use all T2

CPU II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

XL Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
100MN Afterburner II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
Heavy Nosferatu II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

It's not cap stable but who cares. It annihilates all level 4 security missions.
You just spent near a bill on a ship. Don't spend more than 40mill on the fittings.





So you spent 800m on a ship and are wasting a low slot on a fitting mod, i agree that the mach doesnt need billions of equipment, but making a better fitting fit in the first place can be worth it alone.

For example swapping the X-L for a faction costs 100m and lets you use all your lows while tanking more effitiantly, and using that last low ofr a 4th gyro..

Navaris Dreadblade
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:22:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Valor D'eglise
I also don't really get the XL shield booster fittings. I run a gist x-type large. It's so soft on cap, that I can turn it on at the beginning of a room and turn it off at the end. It tanks well enough with mission specific hardeners even for the hardest missions. My fitting has 13 minutes cap with this booster and tanks about 500dps, depending on damage type. More than enough, if you ask me. Hasn't failed me ever.


Gist X-Type Large Booster will work, but the X-Larges are more cap efficient and also provide more burst tank.

X-Type Large: 102 Activation, 269 boost - 2.637 shield per cap - 84 hp/s
X-Type X-Large: 204 Activation, 672 boost - 3.294 shield per cap - 168 hp/s

Numbers supplied by EFT, I hope they're not wrong.

With that in mind, the only reason I could see to use a Large over an X-Large is cost, fitting, or not wanting to have to pay attention to the booster.

Puss in Boots
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:24:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Call me a wimp if you like, but I put a damage control on my PvE Faction BS. If for no other reason than PvE is pretty dull and so I tend to drink heavily and dual screen while I do it.

Those extra EHP have saved me from losing a faction BS more than once.


I started reading this and was thinking how you are probably one of those guys who likes the alternative life style, but then i got to ..."PvE is pretty dull and so I tend to drink heavily" and it all made sense.

Puss in Boots
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:27:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Ildryn
Most of the fits you see posted are also loot pinatas.
Easily suicide ganked by someone who wants your fittings more than you do.

Use all T2

CPU II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

XL Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
100MN Afterburner II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
Heavy Nosferatu II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

It's not cap stable but who cares. It annihilates all level 4 security missions.
You just spent near a bill on a ship. Don't spend more than 40mill on the fittings.





The bandaid cpu mod made me throw up a little in my mouth. Shame on you sir.

Ildryn
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:39:00 - [36]
 

Puss in Boots Royal Amarr Institute [RIN] from 2011.06.30 12:56 to 2011.08.31 22:49 You can't even fly a Machariel without using fitting mods. You can't come anywhere near my dps. Instead of using eft at all level 5 load your skills...so you can throw up in your mouth and everywhere else nooblet.
I didn't mention the two 5% implants for guns. My band-aid cpu mod is because i prefer to not get ganked with stupid faction/complex/officer fittings.


Dr Fighter I use crystals so my t2 xl booster works great.




Navaris Dreadblade
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:39:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Navaris Dreadblade on 01/09/2011 18:43:46
Originally by: Ildryn
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

...

Don't spend more than 40mill on the fittings.


Wat.

Originally by: Ildryn
You can't even fly a Machariel without using fitting mods.


Everyone only has one account and one character on that account, confirm/deny?

Originally by: Ildryn
My band-aid cpu mod is because i prefer to not get ganked with stupid faction/complex/officer fit.


Sounds like someone is mad because they got suicide ganked and lost everything they owned.

Ildryn
Posted - 2011.09.01 18:56:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Ildryn on 01/09/2011 18:55:54


Navaris Dreadblade
Imperial Academy [IAC] from 2011.04.26
Another alt post or do you think you know everything already?

I copy and pasted the fit and did not edit the CCC
I use 3 CCC I


He is using a noob alt to troll or that is his main and he really can't fly one.
Either way his experience was called into question. Way to go supporting alt posting cowardice.

Never been suicide ganked.
Do some research.Rolling EyesI suicide gank now and then...made billions on loot pinatas.
Check battleclinic. Ofcourse you know a lot about fighting right?

Eve Kill Laughing
Pilot: Navaris Dreadblade
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Lolime
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.09.01 19:00:00 - [39]
 

My choice is this fit, it is relatively cheap and has quite much buffer against suicide gank (if any will suicide gank such cheap modules), also rigs can be used on PVP too, so you can easily convert it to as pvp fit if you get bored about missioning. With +5% implants it does 973 dps with t1 ammo without drones. Tank is not very impressive but high buffer and some boost combined to relatively high DPS makes you trough most missions, just remember to not get full agro and get scrammed.

[Machariel, PVE]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

100MN Afterburner II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Imperial Navy Heavy Nosferatu

Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I

Ildryn
Posted - 2011.09.01 19:05:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Lolime
My choice is this fit, it is relatively cheap and has quite much buffer against suicide gank (if any will suicide gank such cheap modules), also rigs can be used on PVP too, so you can easily convert it to as pvp fit if you get bored about missioning. With +5% implants it does 973 dps with t1 ammo without drones. Tank is not very impressive but high buffer and some boost combined to relatively high DPS makes you trough most missions, just remember to not get full agro and get scrammed.

[Machariel, PVE]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

100MN Afterburner II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Imperial Navy Heavy Nosferatu

Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I



Not a bad fit. The rigs however bloat your sig radius. Without them you can fit a shield boost amp II instead of the cap injector.
I have never ran a level 4 mission (i do the bonus rooms) that i had to warp out of or dropped below 20% cap.

Mfume Apocal
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.09.01 19:13:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Ildryn
snip


Attacking an obvious alt's lack of kb history makes you look really dumb.

Ildryn
Posted - 2011.09.01 19:21:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Mfume Apocal
Originally by: Ildryn
snip


Attacking an obvious alt's lack of kb history makes you look really dumb.


Then they should have posted with their main. Embarassed

Thanks for adding so much to the topic.
I will take your advice and file it in the necessary location. [Trash]

Flakey Foont
Posted - 2011.09.01 21:06:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Flakey Foont on 01/09/2011 21:07:16
I use this shield fit with great success:
(Mission specific hardeners)


[Machariel, My lil Mach]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Invulnerability Field I
Invulnerability Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

Navaris Dreadblade
Posted - 2011.09.02 03:48:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Ildryn
He is using a noob alt to troll or that is his main and he really can't fly one.
Either way his experience was called into question. Way to go supporting alt posting cowardice.


Projecting much?

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.09.02 13:56:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Call me a wimp if you like, but I put a damage control on my PvE Faction BS. If for no other reason than PvE is pretty dull and so I tend to drink heavily and dual screen while I do it.

Those extra EHP have saved me from losing a faction BS more than once.


+1, lol... same here, altho I dual box so it makes little sense to min/max DPS on both boats as opposed to making a dedicated tank and a dedicated DPS, since I'll have more DPS on grid than most solo runners no matter how I fit my ships (within reason of course).

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.09.02 14:08:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Mendolus on 02/09/2011 14:59:08
Originally by: Ildryn
Most of the fits you see posted are also loot pinatas.
Easily suicide ganked by someone who wants your fittings more than you do.

Use all T2

CPU II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

XL Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
100MN Afterburner II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
Heavy Nosferatu II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

It's not cap stable but who cares. It annihilates all level 4 security missions.
You just spent near a bill on a ship. Don't spend more than 40mill on the fittings.





I would agree with this in principle if you were running missions in known hubs... but there are remote L4s agents all over high security that only see a handful or so of mission runners at any time day or night, which does little to attract gankers, who prefer a target rich environment. Imagine in a week's time they suicide gank five or six of the dozen guys that logon in that system every day to do missions, they've just ran off half of their potential targets already within a week's time, not to mention that in reality probably only one or two of those runners at best has a fit worth ganking as it is.

Not saying you won't find them there, fit your ship juicy enough and they'll look for you, but that's why you plug your holes based on fittings, if you wanna fit fancier, plug more holes, fit less, don't worry about it nearly as much.

On a battleship hull I would say you are probably quite fine (in less trafficked areas) with 300-500MIL or so in fittings.
On a T3 hull I would say you are probably quite fine with the same so long as you plug holes, since they have lower base EHP by default.

Now, fits with 1BIL or so in fittings... those aren't safe anywhere of course, even freighters are not safe with 1BIL in their cargo hold and those can have 200k EHP before implants.

Just use common sense, if you wanna fly a bit more expensive fit, fly it where your chances of being hassled or someone taking note of you are lower.

I will very rarely fly a freighter on an alt through popular trade routes with 1BIL in the hold, but I do it during times when I already know there are not enough pilots active along the way to give me any trouble. But it sure beats splitting the load up into five or six trips and two hours of babying a freighter every time it lands at 0m of a gate.

Your fit should reflect the chances you are willing to take that someone will find it valuable enough to gank for potential profit, you should not just ... dummy fit your boat based purely on making sure there is 0% someone will gank it, that is an extreme, and we all know things should be done in moderation, right? Even when it comes to being TOO cautious.

As one poster pointed, with your gimped fit, you are causing yourself more problems than you would likely ever have if you just put another 100MIL or so on your ship, which will still not make it a likely suicide target at all, being a battleship hull.

Puss in Boots
Posted - 2011.09.02 15:28:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Puss in Boots on 02/09/2011 15:30:35
Originally by: Ildryn
Puss in Boots Royal Amarr Institute [RIN] from 2011.06.30 12:56 to 2011.08.31 22:49 You can't even fly a Machariel without using fitting mods. You can't come anywhere near my dps. Instead of using eft at all level 5 load your skills...so you can throw up in your mouth and everywhere else nooblet.
I didn't mention the two 5% implants for guns. My band-aid cpu mod is because i prefer to not get ganked with stupid faction/complex/officer fittings.


Dr Fighter I use crystals so my t2 xl booster works great.






Because no on uses alts to post on forums you meaty breasted zero.

Generally, it's not a good idea to post multi billion isk ship fits on forums using the toon that flies them. Just saying.

"u mad bro?"

Eight Sinn
Posted - 2011.09.02 15:41:00 - [48]
 

Hey guys/gals - been reading all of your excellent Machariel fits, was wondering if you all wouldn't mind offering me a decent PVE shield fit on the cheap.

I've got decent gunnery/support skills (see link if you like), but what I don't have is a lot of money.

I'm looking for a mach shield fit that would end up costing me no more than 1B in today's market. I know it's a stretch, I mission primarily up near jita because I'm lazy and don't like to do a million jumps when I want to buy something (just being honest here). I really appreciate the feedback.

-Eight Sinn
Character Sheet

Jubal Vanse
Posted - 2011.09.02 16:32:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Jubal Vanse on 02/09/2011 16:33:14
Originally by: Eight Sinn
Hey guys/gals - been reading all of your excellent Machariel fits, was wondering if you all wouldn't mind offering me a decent PVE shield fit on the cheap.

I've got decent gunnery/support skills (see link if you like), but what I don't have is a lot of money.

I'm looking for a mach shield fit that would end up costing me no more than 1B in today's market. I know it's a stretch, I mission primarily up near jita because I'm lazy and don't like to do a million jumps when I want to buy something (just being honest here). I really appreciate the feedback.

-Eight Sinn
Character Sheet




I'd suggest you dig out EFT or equivalent and figure out a fit based on any of these above, using your skills and cheaper/easier to fit parts. The only real issue is going to be a decent shield.

Puss in Boots
Posted - 2011.09.02 16:47:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Puss in Boots on 02/09/2011 16:47:59
Originally by: Eight Sinn
Hey guys/gals - been reading all of your excellent Machariel fits, was wondering if you all wouldn't mind offering me a decent PVE shield fit on the cheap.

I've got decent gunnery/support skills (see link if you like), but what I don't have is a lot of money.

I'm looking for a mach shield fit that would end up costing me no more than 1B in today's market. I know it's a stretch, I mission primarily up near jita because I'm lazy and don't like to do a million jumps when I want to buy something (just being honest here). I really appreciate the feedback.

-Eight Sinn
Character Sheet



Here is my feedback. The ship costs 800m plus. For pve spend the isk to increase efficiency. If cost is an issue, just get a maelstrom.

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.09.02 17:02:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Puss in Boots
Edited by: Puss in Boots on 02/09/2011 16:47:59
Originally by: Eight Sinn
Hey guys/gals - been reading all of your excellent Machariel fits, was wondering if you all wouldn't mind offering me a decent PVE shield fit on the cheap.

I've got decent gunnery/support skills (see link if you like), but what I don't have is a lot of money.

I'm looking for a mach shield fit that would end up costing me no more than 1B in today's market. I know it's a stretch, I mission primarily up near jita because I'm lazy and don't like to do a million jumps when I want to buy something (just being honest here). I really appreciate the feedback.

-Eight Sinn
Character Sheet



Here is my feedback. The ship costs 800m plus. For pve spend the isk to increase efficiency. If cost is an issue, just get a maelstrom.


This, no sense skimping on a ship that costs you 800MIL, you'll just increase the risk of losing it to random chance or disconnects, and then you'll be pretty upset at barely being able to replace it even just once.

Whereas if you still bother to insure a standard battleship in PvE, you'll only lose whatever cheaper fittings get smoked when the ship goes down, and a small margin off the top after the insurance payout, i.e. you can replace a standard battleship a couple dozen times (in theory) compared to a single Machariel loss.

Ben Dourion
Posted - 2011.09.02 17:16:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Aqriue
[Machariel, Machariel 2]
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

100MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Tremor L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Tremor L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Tremor L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Tremor L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Tremor L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Tremor L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Tremor L
[empty high slot]

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Vespa II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Something I am going to try in about a week, when T2 large artillery finishes. Ran the Mach as an armor tank with 800 autos, wasn't confident in my shield tank ability at the time. Its been in storage mostly unless I get Serp Blockade because I fly the Vargur now, I swaped with a MWD and just burn into range then let them have it. Works well with auto cannons and takes about 45 minutes to just under an hour for the blockade (damps make it a *****, now I just fly into their range like a fast cruiser and most are still way spread out to do alot of damag), going to try a sniper armor mach for a bit then rip out the armor tank and go with a shield tank.



First you dont use the fallof bonus of the gallente BS by using arties, then you don't use the fast speed of the Mach,

Shield tank it , train gallente BS to 4 , use 2 or 3 TE II and put 800 ACs in high slots. Your bigger concern are the webbing /scrambling frig, except those, nothing is a real concern for a Mach.

Just put 10 light T2 drones in your drones bay, and use them to get some range if they are too close for your guns to pop them.

Once its done, just MWD and apply full dmg

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2011.09.02 17:21:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Ildryn


Dr Fighter I use crystals so my t2 xl booster works great.




I think you missed the piont.....

Eight Sinn
Posted - 2011.09.02 17:34:00 - [54]
 

Was trying to avoid playing with EFT at work, but it is Friday..
With my skills I was able to fit the following. CPU is maxed at 750/750. EFT reported DPS is 1062.9, 819.7 from turret, 243.2 from drone. Targeting at 100.75km. Signature 340m.

[Machariel, 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Signal Amplifier II

Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Shield Booster II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.09.02 18:40:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Mendolus on 02/09/2011 18:46:41
Originally by: Eight Sinn
Was trying to avoid playing with EFT at work, but it is Friday..
With my skills I was able to fit the following. CPU is maxed at 750/750. EFT reported DPS is 1062.9, 819.7 from turret, 243.2 from drone. Targeting at 100.75km. Signature 340m.

[Machariel, 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Signal Amplifier II

Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Shield Booster II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hammerhead II x5



Embarassed...

Signal Amp?
10MN?
T2 Guns, T1 Ammo?
25 m3 extra drone bay left, but no light drones?

...suddenly feels trolled. Embarassed

Eight Sinn
Posted - 2011.09.02 18:55:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Mendolus
Edited by: Mendolus on 02/09/2011 18:46:41
...suddenly feels trolled. Embarassed


Very made a mistake in EFT? How lucky. Yeah, that fits not gonna work...

Navaris Dreadblade
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:00:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Navaris Dreadblade on 02/09/2011 19:03:42
Originally by: Mendolus
Embarassed...

Signal Amp?
10MN?
T2 Guns, T1 Ammo?
25 m3 extra drone bay left, but no light drones?

...suddenly feels trolled. Embarassed


T1 Ammo is better for T2 guns - you can't select damage types with Barrage, and the mach chews through ammo so fast that it becomes less efficient isk/hour wise to use expensive ammo. This applies to RF as well.

Signal Amp is viable if you're not concerned with an extra 6% DPS and you have max skills to make use of the mach's huge falloff.

The Drones and 10mn are likely just mistakes.

EDIT: After thinking about it, that fit is really light on tank. =/

Puss in Boots
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:21:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Mendolus
Edited by: Mendolus on 02/09/2011 18:46:41
Originally by: Eight Sinn
Was trying to avoid playing with EFT at work, but it is Friday..
With my skills I was able to fit the following. CPU is maxed at 750/750. EFT reported DPS is 1062.9, 819.7 from turret, 243.2 from drone. Targeting at 100.75km. Signature 340m.

[Machariel, 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Signal Amplifier II

Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
X-Large Shield Booster II

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hammerhead II x5



Embarassed...

Signal Amp?
10MN?
T2 Guns, T1 Ammo?
25 m3 extra drone bay left, but no light drones?

...suddenly feels trolled. Embarassed


SIgnal amp gives you 101km locking range instead of 77, (some of us actually have skills that we can hit beyond 77km) you lose 45 eve warrior dps for the range and ability to hit things with damps. I fire once every 3.25 seconds, do the math. That's 10k vs 800isk every time you fire for 135 dps. For pvp, sure, for shooting silly npc's not so much.

I'm going to give the guy the benifit of the doubt and say the 10mn was an over site.

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:48:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Mendolus on 02/09/2011 19:52:13


Ah well I mean I know about the T2 ammo stuff (just did not remember it when I was critiquing the poster, so that's a given mistake on my part), and I kinda have the luxury of ignoring the ammo (more laziness than anything, switching ammo on two clients and dual boxing, meh I do not even bother to release drones anymore with a tanked Tengu on grid) and dampening issues because I dual box, so my turret boat for DPS rarely gets dampened or even aggro'd... etc. etc except in Serpentis Blockade.

I dual box so I largely ignore most min/max stuff, if I wanted to make the most ISK possible I would do Incursions with a client fleet boosting somewhere safe and another DPSing or anchoring Razz

...but that is neither here nor there so I'll bow out because you solo guys will be able to help the poster with their solo fit more than I.

Anyways, please carry on with your discussion of maximizing solo client mission boats Very Happy

Ildryn
Posted - 2011.09.03 01:44:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Puss in Boots
(some of us actually have skills that we can hit beyond 77km)


Not with a character that new.
Sorry your experience is proven lacking.


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