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Benilopax
Gallente
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
Posted - 2011.08.30 19:37:00 - [1]
 

CCP's plan to ignore FW and it's players seems to have payed off. Recently returned after a short break after the Invalid patch, to find militia channel dead, corp channel dead and what little chat that was going in on has finally been snuffed out. I would like to congratulate CCP on it's total disregard of those players who demanded a CCP response to the lack of any CCP rep at the fanfest round table on FW.

It required one guy answering questions guys.

Pitiful.

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
Posted - 2011.08.30 19:39:00 - [2]
 

I hated fw, but I agree. It was a worthwhile part of the game. And I shouldn't have to be saying that in the past tense.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2011.08.30 19:40:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Abrazzar on 30/08/2011 19:40:30
Finally.

Now CCP can roll out the peace storyline to unite again against the Sansha and scrap the whole factional warfare stuff.
(this is the fix)

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.30 19:47:00 - [4]
 

Agreeing with a second OP today in another "CCP totally blew us off hard" thread.

Do you guys need a pep talk or something? Hug?

I don't FW. However you leaving it broken is slamming another door in my face.


Bane Necran
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:11:00 - [5]
 

Gallente FW?

Everyone probably got sick of being perma-jammed in missions. I know i did.

Vin Hellsing
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:22:00 - [6]
 

If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.

Benilopax
Gallente
The Ashen Lion Syndicate
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:26:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.


Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?

Shaalira D'arc
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:26:00 - [8]
 

WiS has been on CCP's list for the past half decade.

So, check back in '17? Spring of '18, maybe?

Vin Hellsing
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:39:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.


Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?


The Q&A I did was at PAX Prime, dude. Last weekend.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:48:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.


Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?


The Q&A I did was at PAX Prime, dude. Last weekend.


I appreciate the interview first off. Thank you.

However the "no time-frame" issue is very much the double edged sword. I (and many others) complained that CCP makes promises and then doesn't deliver in time.

However, making a promise with no time-frame is essentially saying nothing.

So what do you do? Say never? Wrong answer. Say soon? No one wants to hear that. Say yes and give a date? Better be online when you say it will.

blah blah blah actions words talk talk dictaphone dictaphone...

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:51:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Shaalira D'arc
WiS has been on CCP's list for the past half decade.

So, check back in '17? Spring of '18, maybe?


thats kinda funny given the result was one buggy room

Zirise
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:57:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.


Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?


The Q&A I did was at PAX Prime, dude. Last weekend.


I appreciate the interview first off. Thank you.

However the "no time-frame" issue is very much the double edged sword. I (and many others) complained that CCP makes promises and then doesn't deliver in time.

However, making a promise with no time-frame is essentially saying nothing.

So what do you do? Say never? Wrong answer. Say soon? No one wants to hear that. Say yes and give a date? Better be online when you say it will.

blah blah blah actions words talk talk dictaphone dictaphone...



AAA developers can't turn on a dime. It will be done when its done. If you don't like it, quit.

centurion zulu
Phantom Squad
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.08.30 21:12:00 - [13]
 



Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?


The Q&A I did was at PAX Prime, dude. Last weekend.


I appreciate the interview first off. Thank you.

However the "no time-frame" issue is very much the double edged sword. I (and many others) complained that CCP makes promises and then doesn't deliver in time.

However, making a promise with no time-frame is essentially saying nothing.

So what do you do? Say never? Wrong answer. Say soon? No one wants to hear that. Say yes and give a date? Better be online when you say it will.

blah blah blah actions words talk talk dictaphone dictaphone...



AAA developers can't turn on a dime. It will be done when its done. If you don't like it, quit.



LOL.......another CCP alt detected with a big mouth.

Hwong Jian
Posted - 2011.08.30 21:15:00 - [14]
 

No no! Zirise isn't a CCP alt!

Zirise is Test Alliance. The alliance that was forced out of their own sov by Sniggwaffe and now spam Jita because that's the most damaging action they can take in the whole game.

They're on the forums, though, because they've been getting gagged in game.

Don't worry. With the 'block' feature actually blocking entire alliances properly and the new forums coming out next week, you truly will be able to ignore them.

Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2011.08.30 22:30:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:31:02
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:30:46
In June 2010 CCP said Incarna was taking up so many resources that FW and several other things would not be worked on for 18 months.

So it will probably be 3-5 months before we hear about anything - assuming everything with incarna is going to plan.

It was terrible news to hear it back in june but they did tell us.

CCP soundwave said FW was very high on the priority list so nothing suggests that fw is dead or dying. It's just that 18 months is a long time.

I don't think anyone was working on fw so its not like anyone would have anything new to say about it at a round table. FW has too much potential to be scrapped.

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.08.30 22:37:00 - [16]
 

Same with many other features that where put on the back burner. 18 months is VERY optimistic since the time table given for a lot of the other changes is in the 3-5 year range.

Zirise
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.08.30 23:08:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Hwong Jian
No no! Zirise isn't a CCP alt!

Zirise is Test Alliance. The alliance that was forced out of their own sov by Sniggwaffe and now spam Jita because that's the most damaging action they can take in the whole game.

They're on the forums, though, because they've been getting gagged in game.

Don't worry. With the 'block' feature actually blocking entire alliances properly and the new forums coming out next week, you truly will be able to ignore them.


Confirming we are terrible and now in Jita.

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2011.08.30 23:11:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 30/08/2011 23:11:30
SH|T, let's just declare peace, allow snowball launchers to be mounted on shuttles, and remove all other weapons and ships from the game. They only distract people from using the NeX store anyways.

Queue K'Umber
Posted - 2011.08.30 23:15:00 - [19]
 

Darn it.

I just rejoined and was having fun.

Now I have to quit again.

Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Posted - 2011.08.30 23:34:00 - [20]
 

It was fun and I hope one day it will be fixed. However, it's been broken for what, 2 years now ?
I really doubt they will ever fix it.

Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2011.08.30 23:43:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Cearain
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:31:02
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:30:46
In June 2010 CCP said Incarna was taking up so many resources that FW and several other things would not be worked on for 18 months.

So it will probably be 3-5 months before we hear about anything - assuming everything with incarna is going to plan.

It was terrible news to hear it back in june but they did tell us.

CCP soundwave said FW was very high on the priority list so nothing suggests that fw is dead or dying. It's just that 18 months is a long time.

I don't think anyone was working on fw so its not like anyone would have anything new to say about it at a round table. FW has too much potential to be scrapped.

If it is so high on their priority, why have they not given any feedback in this thread for MONTHS now???
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1489084

I started it when I found out from a corp mate who was at fanfest that they didn't show up to the round table. It had some initial CCP interaction and promises of feedback from CCP Soundwave. But we heard nothing. The interview from PAX where Soundwave said it was a "high priority" is the first feedback we've had for months, and I would hardly call it solid...

Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2011.08.31 14:53:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Cearain
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:31:02
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:30:46
In June 2010 CCP said Incarna was taking up so many resources that FW and several other things would not be worked on for 18 months.

So it will probably be 3-5 months before we hear about anything - assuming everything with incarna is going to plan.

It was terrible news to hear it back in june but they did tell us.

CCP soundwave said FW was very high on the priority list so nothing suggests that fw is dead or dying. It's just that 18 months is a long time.

I don't think anyone was working on fw so its not like anyone would have anything new to say about it at a round table. FW has too much potential to be scrapped.

If it is so high on their priority, why have they not given any feedback in this thread for MONTHS now???
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1489084

I started it when I found out from a corp mate who was at fanfest that they didn't show up to the round table. It had some initial CCP interaction and promises of feedback from CCP Soundwave. But we heard nothing. The interview from PAX where Soundwave said it was a "high priority" is the first feedback we've had for months, and I would hardly call it solid...


Yeah I agree that was bad to say they would give feed back and then not give any. I think someone in that thread said ccp soundwave would give feedback. But he probably didn't realize there was no feed back to give.

They really haven't given any feed back on low sec. But I don't think that means they are going to scrap all of low sec.

The only facts we have is that 1) In June 2010 they said it would be 18 months. 2) They had no feed back to give at fanfest 2011, and they apparently have no feedback to give in August 2011 other than to say no work has been done on it but it is a high priority.

I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up. But if people want to scream that it is dead they can. It may be dead, but I don't think so.

Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
Posted - 2011.08.31 14:58:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Cearain


I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.



You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2011.08.31 15:15:00 - [24]
 

People have been saying FW is dead/dying the entire time I've been playing. My time in FW is a blast (I'm not in it right now), meet some decent players, and in general have a good time (it *is* a game, after all). I don't grind in FW, but I guess for those that are in it strictly for the ISK it's a pain.

I'll be going back to FW (probably Caldari or Amarr) as soon as missioning gets boring again. :)

ps: CCP has made it clear that they don't give a rat's arse about FW, so those of us that do FW make of it what we can.

Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2011.09.01 02:29:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain


I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.



You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.

+1

Vin Hellsing
Posted - 2011.09.01 02:30:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 01/09/2011 02:30:32
Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain


I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.



You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.

+1


Actually there are different teams with differing priorities. One of those teams probably has an eye on FW. I'm sure CCP has plans in mind for it next year.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.09.01 03:24:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 01/09/2011 02:30:32
Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain


I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.



You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.

+1


Actually there are different teams with differing priorities. One of those teams probably has an eye on FW. I'm sure CCP has plans in mind for it next year.


I think that eye got plucked out an thats what the monocles are for

Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
Posted - 2011.09.01 03:32:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Zeerover on 01/09/2011 03:34:35
Some of it is down to the loop sided timezones. We roll in the EU evening with 20-50 man fleets looking for anything to shoot. Minmatar/Gallente roll the US evening with 20-50 man fleets looking for anything to shoot.

Some brave souls take plexing seriously, but most of us either scour the pipes looking for a fight, or mission on alts.

The mission work to keep us all stocked in shiny ships, but since there are few fights, they're just stocked...

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.09.01 03:36:00 - [29]
 

Too little, too late. CCP hasn't fixed the exploiters, the unbalanced missions, the unbalanced occupancy systems, the unbalanced headcount, the lack of reward for occupancy in general or anything else yet - what makes you think they're ever going to fix it?

FW was dead the moment Empyrean Age was released. It's clear CCP never intended to make it the least bit interesting, balanced, fair or playable.

Pr1ncess Alia
Posted - 2011.09.01 03:37:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 01/09/2011 02:30:32
Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain


I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.



You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.

+1


Actually there are different teams with differing priorities. One of those teams probably has an eye on FW. I'm sure CCP has plans in mind for it next year.


Stockholm syndrome^^


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