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Uriah Argentis
Posted - 2011.08.30 16:36:00 - [1]
 

Before getting into EVE I had this idea of becoming a smuggler. Sneaking illegal goods into and out of highsec for potential buyers. After starting the game, I realized that there isn't really a good way to do this. Instead, I am now interested in blockade runners. Is there a good way to make is hauling low volume, high value goods from high sec out to low, and/or back. I understand there is always a risk of getting bubbled, but I have a plan to deal with that. Between cloaking and ecm bursts I should be able to get out of bubbles without too much trouble, or hopefully avoid them altogether. Anyway, has anybody had any luck doing this? If so, what goods do you typically haul, and how do you find your customers?

Hakkar'al Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.30 16:54:00 - [2]
 

In low sec you don't have bubbles. You do in null sec so that where the problem regarding bubbles will be. And your idea of getting through them will not work, bubbles are a large field where your warp drive doesn't work, there is nothing to counter with an ecm.

Goods to haul I would guess, depends - as on all markets - on regional availability (or lack thereof). As a general concept I doubt the idea works, because low sec inhabitants often can either go high sec for their stuff or have alts doing their shoppoing for them. I had a similar idea once, but with a twist. I'm not going to divulge that, because I might launch it still.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.08.30 16:55:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: E man Industries on 30/08/2011 16:55:45
you want to pick a 0.0 outpost that you can dock at. this means NPC 0.0 or lowsec as in 0.0 you can't always dock at a given station.

With that in mind find the most active system in a given zone and conferm it has the most active market. This is also usually where some agents hang out.

Make a jump clone and travel to this station and examin the market. Compare it to jita/rens/amar prices and see how you can make isk. Make isk bringing stuff in, make isk bringing stuff out.

I would run some gate camps in a stealth bomber or some ship first to get the hang of it.

Or some local knowledge of a system where people jump out of lowsec with carriers into 0.0 can also act as a decent market hub.

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:00:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Uriah Argentis
Before getting into EVE I had this idea of becoming a smuggler. Sneaking illegal goods into and out of highsec for potential buyers. After starting the game, I realized that there isn't really a good way to do this. Instead, I am now interested in blockade runners. Is there a good way to make is hauling low volume, high value goods from high sec out to low, and/or back. I understand there is always a risk of getting bubbled, but I have a plan to deal with that. Between cloaking and ecm bursts I should be able to get out of bubbles without too much trouble, or hopefully avoid them altogether. Anyway, has anybody had any luck doing this? If so, what goods do you typically haul, and how do you find your customers?


I made a very nice income doing this as late as 2008, but Jump Freighters have largely taken over this niche I am afraid.

E man Industries
Posted - 2011.08.30 20:52:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Uriah Argentis
Before getting into EVE I had this idea of becoming a smuggler. Sneaking illegal goods into and out of highsec for potential buyers. After starting the game, I realized that there isn't really a good way to do this. Instead, I am now interested in blockade runners. Is there a good way to make is hauling low volume, high value goods from high sec out to low, and/or back. I understand there is always a risk of getting bubbled, but I have a plan to deal with that. Between cloaking and ecm bursts I should be able to get out of bubbles without too much trouble, or hopefully avoid them altogether. Anyway, has anybody had any luck doing this? If so, what goods do you typically haul, and how do you find your customers?


I made a very nice income doing this as late as 2008, but Jump Freighters have largely taken over this niche I am afraid.


And carriers.
Mostly a corp buys stuff in jita ships to 1 jump from low sec, jumps a frieghter in with ecort to low sec station...then later a carrier or JF jumps it to where it is going.

Thornat
Posted - 2011.08.31 12:16:00 - [6]
 

Yup unfortunatly this along with many other profibtable and interesting gameplay styles/operations have been wiped out through various expansion releases. Jump Freighters have effectively removed this type of gameplay from the game all together. I used to be very successful at blockade running stuff out to fountain for example and selling goods at considerably higher prices and making a fortune doing it, but since jump freighters have come out this type of operation yields nothing but high risk and very little reward.

Its an unfortunate drawback of the developers and CSM so focused on improving 0.0 advantages. In just about every way that matters 0.0 is not a place worth venturing for economic gameplay. You can make far more ISK hauling **** around between low sec and high sec because the Alliances don't feed these areas with jump freighters and pirates with severely diminished sec ratings are usually more flexible in what prices they are willing to pay for things.

I would look to low sec systems with high traffic and try to find a nitch their. There is still some risk involved flying around in an industrial in low sec, but with a blockade runner your success rate will be very very high in terms of getting in and out. Market wise its often better to setup a BPO manufacuring operation and smuggle resources rather than made goods, simply because you will be able to considerably increase how much stuff you get out their and your overhead will be lower so your prices will be more competative than say buying right from the market.

Sleeper 1173
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.09.01 14:17:00 - [7]
 

There is definitely a demand. I have BPOs in two systems that are cut off from high sec by some low sec systems. In one case, only two systems. I would pay well to get them out, but the collateral required would be kind of steep.

I think there is a forum for listing services available.

Hoshi
Hedron Industries
Red Dwarf Racketeering Division
Posted - 2011.09.02 19:46:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Hoshi on 02/09/2011 19:46:22
Don't listen to the neysayers. There are good isk to be made by serving both low and nullsec markets. It's just matter of finding the right items and the right system.

People mention carrier jumping. Well to jump you need cynical fields but the ships providing the cynos have a tendency to be destroyed. So selling suitable t1 frigates and cyno generators and liquid ozone can be profitable. 200% markup is not
unusual and you even have the oTwisted Evilption of helping your sales by killing the cyno ships yourself.


 

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