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Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.09.05 12:27:00 - [211]
 

Originally by: Sullen Skoung
CMON MITTENS
Be a real Goon an leak the minutes
Not this pretend Goon in bed with CCP crap lol


I want to see the unmodified CSM minutes anyway, as I have no faith in the veracity of the CCP "spin" modified minutes so even when they are eventually published they will be essentially worthless.

C.

oematoema
Posted - 2011.09.05 21:53:00 - [212]
 

9 hours since someone posted in this thread. Of course 9 hours is just the blink of an eye for minute makers, but at my back I always hear time's winged chariot hurrying near.

General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2011.09.05 22:00:00 - [213]
 

How on earth do you expect Mittens to have time to do unimportant stuff like this when he's busy making regular and lengthy posts on his Alliance forums updating Goons on what they need to do to make the most of the CSM?

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.09.05 22:35:00 - [214]
 

Quote:
So...about those *EMERGENCY* CSM Meeting Minutes...





Mr Kidd
Posted - 2011.09.05 22:39:00 - [215]
 

Originally by: AnzacPaul
Quote:
So...about those *EMERGENCY* CSM Meeting Minutes...







Shreegs said:
Quote:
In the next week or so...


Oh wait, that was for the bot blog back in May?.....my bad.

Hicksimus
Gallente
Mom's Friendly Spaceship Company
Posted - 2011.09.05 23:40:00 - [216]
 

Why do they call these minutes anyway? I've never worked anywhere that uses minutes to create bias, they serve as a way of making people think before they speak and if they say something stupid it's their ass on the line. Tofu flavored like minutes perhaps.


Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.06 03:22:00 - [217]
 

Hey CCP, just wondering if you got a minutes? ugh

RUSROG
Amarr
Beasts of Burden
Posted - 2011.09.06 04:24:00 - [218]
 

Edited by: RUSROG on 06/09/2011 04:34:41
Originally by: Harlot Hohannson
i watch what you do, not what you say. so far i see nothing.


Edit1:

I think that the CSM or Mittens can 'leak' the minutes somewhere?

Or is that against CCP law?

Empy Ralt
Posted - 2011.09.06 05:17:00 - [219]
 

Originally by: RUSROG
Edited by: RUSROG on 06/09/2011 04:34:41
Originally by: Harlot Hohannson
i watch what you do, not what you say. so far i see nothing.


Edit1:

I think that the CSM or Mittens can 'leak' the minutes somewhere?

Or is that against CCP law?


Yes. The NDA they all signed. Though the NDA should only really be applied to cover up "secret new content" but it's a pretty good tool when you want to gag the CSM.

The CSM has already performed their service. The "Emergency CSM" made it look to the media like CCP cared. Once the attention is off they can go back to business as usual.


SexxxSlave
Posted - 2011.09.06 09:37:00 - [220]
 

i think it's high time for another "riot" or unsubbing round...

anyone with me on either front? Mass unsubbing worked last time :D

ChromeStriker
Posted - 2011.09.06 09:45:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: SexxxSlave
i think it's high time for another "riot" or unsubbing round...

anyone with me on either front? Mass unsubbing worked last time :D


your stuff? can i have it?

Evil Afoot
Lunar Tech
Posted - 2011.09.06 09:48:00 - [222]
 


2 accounts have lapsed this one is up in 2 days.

I will be playing the following games & checking the crappy new forums for a CCP change of heart/direction.

Dead Island
BF3
SWTOR
Skyrim

I suggest you guys do the same. Otherwise you are just another sub.



El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.09.06 09:48:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: SexxxSlave
i think it's high time for another "riot" or unsubbing round...

anyone with me on either front? Mass unsubbing worked last time :D


Not really they've not yet changed course.

Major Stallion
The Money Shot Inc.
Posted - 2011.09.06 09:56:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: El'Niaga
Not really they've not yet changed course.


it did get their attention, you cant deny that.

Kengutsi Akira
Posted - 2011.09.06 10:45:00 - [225]
 

Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: El'Niaga
Not really they've not yet changed course.


it did get their attention, you cant deny that.


only enough to go "wow we need to throw the PR lackies to the sharks"

Major Stallion
The Money Shot Inc.
Posted - 2011.09.06 10:52:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: El'Niaga
Not really they've not yet changed course.


it did get their attention, you cant deny that.


only enough to go "wow we need to throw the PR lackies to the sharks"


anyone with a brain saw through that move...you clearly didnt.

Othran
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.09.06 11:07:00 - [227]
 

There's no point in releasing them now guys - may as well throw them in the bin.

Who's going to believe what's in the minutes after 3 months of "editing"?

Only fools. Neutral

Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.06 11:13:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: Major Stallion

anyone with a brain saw through that move...you clearly didnt.


Must have been your l33t monocotroll that enabled you to foresee such events then?

Alissa Solette
Posted - 2011.09.06 11:30:00 - [229]
 

Edited by: Alissa Solette on 06/09/2011 11:32:24
Originally by: CCP Xhagen
We are getting pretty good at writing up minutes from CSM/CCP meetings, just some topics take more time than other. And this is one of those topics.


When you say things like "take more time then others" then people think of a week, maybe two. We're talking about 10 weeks now.

If it takes you 10 weeks to summarize a two day meeting... well... I wouldn't exactly call that "good". I'd actually call it ****ing terribad and I'd go on to claim that my little sister (she's 17) would have wrote this ten times over in the time allotted even without any previous experience.

So either you're simply lying (which is pretty likely if I look at CCPs recent track record) or you're simply ****ing dismal at writing a few minutes.

What we need is a simple minutes like we got it for previous CSM meetings. I don't give a **** if it's "hard to read". Release it NOW and then waste 10 weeks on adding PR-fluff and whatnot for the people that are to mentally challenged to read the minutes themselves.

For me this sounds like a cover-up because you know that there will be a new **** storm if you release the minutes. So now you're trying to apply some reverse-correct info-speak so you can release faked minutes that will avert the **** storm.

That is the only explanation for keeping the minutes under lock and key for 3 months and trying your good old "let it all blow over" tactic.

Companies like this make we want to puke. You went from a decent company I could respect to the kind of scum I only would have expected in banking and/or oil trade.

Way to go.

Poonut
Posted - 2011.09.06 14:16:00 - [230]
 

Believe in Upmost Malicious Pride

Trolls Troll
Posted - 2011.09.06 14:21:00 - [231]
 

Originally by: Poonut
Believe in Upmost Malicious Pride



Good Sir, Lulz to you for such an awesome name ugh

Niraia
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
Posted - 2011.09.06 14:22:00 - [232]
 

Could you post the un-edited version now, since it's ready, then release your official one later when you're done? :)

Smoking Blunts
Posted - 2011.09.06 14:35:00 - [233]
 

the CSM need to draw lots. the looser should publish the unedited minutes and take one for the team.

this is a farce, the CSM is elected to represent the players by the players, its not ment to be an extention of CCP's PR deparment. if thats what CCP want, remove the CSM and forget about the idea.

MINUTES

Caldari Acolyte
Posted - 2011.09.06 14:44:00 - [234]
 

I don't think i've seen this much intensional foot dragging since the US federal trade commission subpoenaed Enron for there financial records. Lets see which CCP lacky attempts to throw another curve ball at us here in this thread. Any bets as to who? Laughing


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