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Sobaan Tali
Posted - 2011.08.29 12:49:00 - [1]
 

I got to thinking about it the other day. In the game sense, New Eden is merely 8-9 thousand systems wide, right? In reality, galaxies tend to be many millions to many billions of systems wide. So, i figue it would make sense to simply imply that New Eden is actually a great deal larger than what you see ingame on the map, and that those said 8-9 thousand systems are simply the ones the human race has colonised and/or gated (Wormhole space is a good example to use here in assuming there is much more to New Eden than so-called Known space). But i still wonder, how truely big is New Eden? If you could view New Eden from something like Hubble, what would it look like? I'm sure this has been put into question before, but I haven't seen a thread yet, so here's mine.

Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
Posted - 2011.08.29 13:38:00 - [2]
 

New Eden is the name for a cluster of stars, not a galaxy.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.08.30 13:13:00 - [3]
 

New Eden is a giant nursery of stars, more like a nebula than a galaxy. it has been postulated as to if its actually an arm of a galaxy and if so... what kind of galaxy?

this is a huge canonical question that i think we'd all love to have answered.

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.08.30 15:13:00 - [4]
 

It doesn't say anywhere in the PF (that I'm aware of) what New Eden actually is, astronomically. It could be another arm of the Milky Way, or a section of another galaxy, or an entirely new, albeit small, galaxy of it's own.

Your assumption makes sense though; I would imagine there are a great many more systems out there that have no gates because they are unsuitable for colonisation, and therefore do not show up on the map.

s666ss666ss666
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:26:00 - [5]
 

New Eden is the local galaxy, but its larger nature is unknown. it is AT LEAST 12 billion LY from the Milky Way, as even with the aid of the entire Milky Way and many eyes looking back from New Eden, the Terrans never found there relative positions. W-space in NOT in the same galaxy as K-space, or the astronomical computers on spaceships or any one of the multitude of astrophysicists, astronomers and other interested persons in New Eden would have long ago sported this. this means that New Eden is at least 12 bLY from both of them, although as it is somewhat doubtful New Eden has a complete map for the Milky Way, W-space and the Milky Way could conceivably be within in viable range of each other.

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:50:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: s666ss666ss666
W-space in NOT in the same galaxy as K-space, or the astronomical computers on spaceships or any one of the multitude of astrophysicists, astronomers and other interested persons in New Eden would have long ago sported this


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Wormholes can traverse time as well as space...

Niall R
Posted - 2011.08.31 02:41:00 - [7]
 

Considering that wormholes can traverse time also, there is not reason to say that, for example, Suroken XI isn't Earth.

There's basically no way whatsoever to determine New Eden's position in space in regard to Earth.

s666ss666ss666
Posted - 2011.08.31 07:21:00 - [8]
 

time is little barrier to recognition by star positions, and seeing as its been 2+ years since W-space opened don't you think the idea has been combed over by astronomy graduate students the galaxy over? I actually brought the idea of W-sapce and time travel up with an astronomer, and he was certen that with a little time, good telescopes and the massive computer available in New Eden a 'yes' or 'no' could be found in short order.

Sun'Tzu Yin
Gallente
Wreckage Reclamation Enforcement Consortium
Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
Posted - 2011.09.06 06:31:00 - [9]
 

According to fleet telemetry wormhole space is between 1200-1800 ly from kspace, depending on which wspace system you ping from. Just do a location broadcast to a fleet member in wspace to get a relative distance. I had considered doing this with farflung fleet members around the cluster to get a three dimensional triangulation, but I lost interest at some point.

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.06 10:14:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Sun'Tzu Yin
According to fleet telemetry wormhole space is between 1200-1800 ly from kspace, depending on which wspace system you ping from. Just do a location broadcast to a fleet member in wspace to get a relative distance. I had considered doing this with farflung fleet members around the cluster to get a three dimensional triangulation, but I lost interest at some point.


Your instruments are probably in error.

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Despite the strange nebulae, we believe what we are seeing here is a system not unlike those familiar to us in New Eden, although it is far, far away. Initial data gathered from intracluster medium analysis on the other side has led us to strongly consider the possibility that this system resides in a galaxy other than our own.


Lianda Burreau


Sun'Tzu Yin
Gallente
Wreckage Reclamation Enforcement Consortium
Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
Posted - 2011.09.08 04:38:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Sun''Tzu Yin on 08/09/2011 04:47:42
Have you tried it? If so, then you got similar results which would conveniently suggest YOUR instruments are in error as well. Mind you, I have done this with numerous fleetmates while I was positioned both inside AND outside wspace. Their instruments must be similarly broken. So, if everyone's instruments are in error the similarly while otherwise working perfectly, what can we infer from that information?



 

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