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Aamrr
Posted - 2011.08.29 21:59:00 - [31]
 

Certainly not. However, I'm guessing your legion fit didn't resemble a zealot very much. Most of the solo legion configurations are closer to a sacrilege -- which could probably give a Hurricane a run for its money.

Ineka
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.08.29 22:59:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Aamrr
Certainly not. However, I'm guessing your legion fit didn't resemble a zealot very much. Most of the solo legion configurations are closer to a sacrilege -- which could probably give a Hurricane a run for its money.


And an armor cane would also die but put a nice misery on the legion, low skills legion pilot will certainly **** on his pants and most prob loose it.

My armour cane is far more efficient in blaster range than my buffer blaster bc's witch is a terrible non sense. Maybe I'm terrible at flying those but when you fit and fly them the same way, hell the difference is just insane.

Amarr ships are just awesome, well just after minmatar ones ;o

In rust we trust !!

Mfume Apocal
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
Posted - 2011.08.30 01:45:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 30/08/2011 01:47:45
Originally by: Aamrr
I like my Legion just fine, but that post was...painful.


lol +1

That being said, I've seen T3s lose to BCs 1 on 1 before, generally involving some comedy failfits on one side and good piloting on the other.

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.30 02:06:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Alexa Akiga on 31/08/2011 02:19:46
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 29/08/2011 10:44:50
Amarr ships are well balanced. That is all. Learn to fly them.

Edit: And btw, nobody cares if they suck at some "missions". EVE is a PVP game, deal with it.


First of all, I love to pvp, so I have no problem with Eve's strong pvp aspect. But to say missions are not a large part of the game or that pve content is not a large part of the game is foolish. Good luck making money doing pvp alone, I bet you will lose more than you will make.

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.30 02:11:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington
Quote:
And I can fly them just fine


By the look of your derpfest of an OP, you certainly can't fly them fine.


Really? Because I am pretty sure I gave valid reasons to support my post, all of them being accurate regarding the weakness and strengths of the Amarr ship line. I do respect other peoples experiences and opinions however, and that's the reason I made this post. But to act as though I don't know what I am talking about is a bit ridiculous, I think I have proven I have a decent grasp of the ships in question.

Thorian Baalnorn
Posted - 2011.08.30 02:22:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Alexa Akiga
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 29/08/2011 10:44:50
Amarr ships are well balanced. That is all. Learn to fly them.

Edit: And btw, nobody cares if they suck at some "missions". EVE is a PVP game, deal with it.


Your a total ****ing tool dude. First of all, I love to pvp, so I have no problem with Eve's strong pvp aspect. But to say missions are not a large part of the game or that pve content is not a large part of the game is ******ed. Good luck making money doing pvp alone. I bet you will lose more than you will make.



If you want to PVE fly Caldari missile boats.
If you want to PVP at close range fly minnie.
If you want to PVP at medium to long range fly Amarr.
If you want to play Eve on "Difficult" fly Gallente.

PVE is a means to an end in the world of eve. While their are many PVE and carebear activities in EVE it is first and foremost a PVP game.... hardcore PVP game at that. If you will notice, most of the eve universe is tailored to provoke people to engage in PVP. Hi sec for example was never really meant to be a permanent residence for WOW Players in Space. It is Eves version of noobville and even it is not 100% safe. In fact, it is my opinion that 0.0 is safer most of the time. In 0.0 you are more aware and you know if they arent blue they should be considered hostile. Meanwhile, hi sec gives an artfical sense of security. You can still be wardecced their and suicide gankers will be more than happy to relieve you of your cargo...if its valuable enough.

This game caters to those who like to shed blood and lots of it.

Ninlarra
Posted - 2011.08.30 03:00:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Alexa Akiga
Edited by: Alexa Akiga on 30/08/2011 02:12:39
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 29/08/2011 10:44:50
Amarr ships are well balanced. That is all. Learn to fly them.

Edit: And btw, nobody cares if they suck at some "missions". EVE is a PVP game, deal with it.


Your a total ****ing tool, dude. First of all, I love to pvp, so I have no problem with Eve's strong pvp aspect. But to say missions are not a large part of the game or that pve content is not a large part of the game is foolish. Good luck making money doing pvp alone, I bet you will lose more than you will make.


So I read all the posts except ikillgiant's as it was WAYYYYYYY TL;DR but I'm sure he said what everyone is saying. All I got to say is, your above repsonse is the problem here, your ****ing attitude is terrible. There was been literally 20+ well thought out, well constructed posts explaining in minute detail why you are a ****ing noob that should stop playing this excellent game and go play wow. The only 3 repsonses to your own post was to troll/fight/forum warrior with people instead of offering counter points as to why you think the people that are right are in fact wrong. But you didnt, instead you talk **** to the trolls.

You are not suited fopr this game. Leave. And never return. I dont want little **** ant whinining *****es playing my game.

Thank you.

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.30 04:36:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Alexa Akiga on 30/08/2011 04:41:13
Originally by: Ninlarra
Originally by: Alexa Akiga
Edited by: Alexa Akiga on 30/08/2011 02:12:39
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 29/08/2011 10:44:50
Amarr ships are well balanced. That is all. Learn to fly them.

Edit: And btw, nobody cares if they suck at some "missions". EVE is a PVP game, deal with it.


Your a total ****ing tool, dude. First of all, I love to pvp, so I have no problem with Eve's strong pvp aspect. But to say missions are not a large part of the game or that pve content is not a large part of the game is foolish. Good luck making money doing pvp alone, I bet you will lose more than you will make.


So I read all the posts except ikillgiant's as it was WAYYYYYYY TL;DR but I'm sure he said what everyone is saying. All I got to say is, your above repsonse is the problem here, your ****ing attitude is terrible. There was been literally 20+ well thought out, well constructed posts explaining in minute detail why you are a ****ing noob that should stop playing this excellent game and go play wow. The only 3 repsonses to your own post was to troll/fight/forum warrior with people instead of offering counter points as to why you think the people that are right are in fact wrong. But you didnt, instead you talk **** to the trolls.

You are not suited fopr this game. Leave. And never return. I dont want little **** ant whinining *****es playing my game.

Thank you.


I have not made any response's to any of the constructive posters made in this topic. I have commented toward the ignorant and clearly emotionally dysfunctional ones, like the one you posted, where you clearly take internet spaceships a bit too seriously. You seem quite angry. I think you need to get laid man, really.

I have taken into account all of the constructive posts, and I appreciate all of the feedback! Then again, this is Eve, and im used to deuche bags like the above poster making comments full of nerd rage, so no harm done!

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.30 04:40:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: Alexa Akiga on 30/08/2011 04:43:48
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: Alexa Akiga
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 29/08/2011 10:44:50
Amarr ships are well balanced. That is all. Learn to fly them.

Edit: And btw, nobody cares if they suck at some "missions". EVE is a PVP game, deal with it.


Your a total ****ing tool dude. First of all, I love to pvp, so I have no problem with Eve's strong pvp aspect. But to say missions are not a large part of the game or that pve content is not a large part of the game is ******ed. Good luck making money doing pvp alone. I bet you will lose more than you will make.


I said it once, and I will say it again. I LOVE TO PVP. I have no idea where this idea came from where it is assumed that I don't like pvp, or have some issue with the pvp in eve. I never said or implied anything of the sort. So those who keep bringing it up (really re-read all my posts and please quote me saying I don't pvp or don't like to pvp and I would be happy to apologise) can drop the subject and move onto a subject that this post actually applies to, like Amarr ships, or GTFO.
If you want to PVE fly Caldari missile boats.
If you want to PVP at close range fly minnie.
If you want to PVP at medium to long range fly Amarr.
If you want to play Eve on "Difficult" fly Gallente.

PVE is a means to an end in the world of eve. While their are many PVE and carebear activities in EVE it is first and foremost a PVP game.... hardcore PVP game at that. If you will notice, most of the eve universe is tailored to provoke people to engage in PVP. Hi sec for example was never really meant to be a permanent residence for WOW Players in Space. It is Eves version of noobville and even it is not 100% safe. In fact, it is my opinion that 0.0 is safer most of the time. In 0.0 you are more aware and you know if they arent blue they should be considered hostile. Meanwhile, hi sec gives an artfical sense of security. You can still be wardecced their and suicide gankers will be more than happy to relieve you of your cargo...if its valuable enough.

This game caters to those who like to shed blood and lots of it.


I really have no idea where this bull**** comes from that I don't like pvp. I never said or implied any such thing, so you look foolish going on about something that is not even in the topic. I will say it again, I LOVE TO PVP. Please find me a part of my post where I said that I didn't?

Thorian Baalnorn
Posted - 2011.08.30 05:48:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Alexa Akiga
Edited by: Alexa Akiga on 30/08/2011 04:43:48
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: Alexa Akiga
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 29/08/2011 10:44:50
Amarr ships are well balanced. That is all. Learn to fly them.

Edit: And btw, nobody cares if they suck at some "missions". EVE is a PVP game, deal with it.


Your a total ****ing tool dude. First of all, I love to pvp, so I have no problem with Eve's strong pvp aspect. But to say missions are not a large part of the game or that pve content is not a large part of the game is ******ed. Good luck making money doing pvp alone. I bet you will lose more than you will make.


I said it once, and I will say it again. I LOVE TO PVP. I have no idea where this idea came from where it is assumed that I don't like pvp, or have some issue with the pvp in eve. I never said or implied anything of the sort. So those who keep bringing it up (really re-read all my posts and please quote me saying I don't pvp or don't like to pvp and I would be happy to apologise) can drop the subject and move onto a subject that this post actually applies to, like Amarr ships, or GTFO.
If you want to PVE fly Caldari missile boats.
If you want to PVP at close range fly minnie.
If you want to PVP at medium to long range fly Amarr.
If you want to play Eve on "Difficult" fly Gallente.

PVE is a means to an end in the world of eve. While their are many PVE and carebear activities in EVE it is first and foremost a PVP game.... hardcore PVP game at that. If you will notice, most of the eve universe is tailored to provoke people to engage in PVP. Hi sec for example was never really meant to be a permanent residence for WOW Players in Space. It is Eves version of noobville and even it is not 100% safe. In fact, it is my opinion that 0.0 is safer most of the time. In 0.0 you are more aware and you know if they arent blue they should be considered hostile. Meanwhile, hi sec gives an artfical sense of security. You can still be wardecced their and suicide gankers will be more than happy to relieve you of your cargo...if its valuable enough.

This game caters to those who like to shed blood and lots of it.


I really have no idea where this bull**** comes from that I don't like pvp. I never said or implied any such thing, so you look foolish going on about something that is not even in the topic. I will say it again, I LOVE TO PVP. Please find me a part of my post where I said that I didn't?


No one said you hated PVP, at least that i saw. I was responding to your hostile post about how PVE is a large part of this game. PVE is a means to an end. That is all. Its a necessary evil.First you insult the race and ships then you insult the people who explain to you why you are wrong. You are on a roll arent you. BTW if your going to quote as least make sure you quote properly.

Amarr ships are ok at PVE and good at PVP. You have to be properly skilled and know how to properly fit them. The same as any ship in this game. People say lots of ships/classes/races are crap or overpowered. I can kill people in anything i can fit a weapon on. Just what you fly and how you fly it determines your target selection.

Yviene
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.30 05:53:00 - [41]
 

Wow Alexa, I see you that you can get pretty bitter when your opinion is challenged.

We had this very same discussion in SWA, and you went on to say how your main is in CVA and that you fly Amarr all the time. Given your statements that night of how your geddon can't hit anything at 3km Rolling Eyes and the constructive, and non constructive, posts here, It's pretty apparent that you don't know how to fly Amarr very well. I say look at some guides and stop using EFT to imagine scenarios (I'm surprised you didn't mention how your 1000+ DPS Hurricane, that can "dictate range," can kill anything an Amarrian could field; since that seemed to be one of the bits you were using as proof).

Chill out and take a different perspective on the race, since everyone here agrees you're doing it wrong.

Azhpol
Gallente
Casa Del Wombat
Posted - 2011.08.30 06:38:00 - [42]
 

I think my favorite part of this whole thread is people thinking that solo pvp matters. Hint: it doesn't. Game was designed around fleets engaging, hence ships with defined roles.

Can you guess the Amarr role? Basically a soldier, standing in line, shooting, while other people do special things. SOMEONE has to hold the line, and thats what Amarr is good at.

I fly both gallente and minmatar(the later is recent) and I gotta say, I don't like fighting amarr with either. You guys shrug off my special moves(only time my ECM drones have every failed me was against a harby) and just take my damage, all the while laying down some hurt.

Go hold the line while your more specialized forces go do their thing, and you might find you are doing well.

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.30 13:17:00 - [43]
 

Edited by: Alexa Akiga on 30/08/2011 13:33:07
Originally by: Yviene
Wow Alexa, I see you that you can get pretty bitter when your opinion is challenged.

We had this very same discussion in SWA, and you went on to say how your main is in CVA and that you fly Amarr all the time. Given your statements that night of how your geddon can't hit anything at 3km Rolling Eyes and the constructive, and non constructive, posts here, It's pretty apparent that you don't know how to fly Amarr very well. I say look at some guides and stop using EFT to imagine scenarios (I'm surprised you didn't mention how your 1000+ DPS Hurricane, that can "dictate range," can kill anything an Amarrian could field; since that seemed to be one of the bits you were using as proof).

Chill out and take a different perspective on the race, since everyone here agrees you're doing it wrong.


I will say it again, I have not made ANY negative responses to any constructive posts here that have stated a different opinion than mine. If you notice, I have only responded to the flaming trolls that have made rather nasty and immature comments that were completely off topic. Not one time did I get "bitter" over a constructive post in this thread that differed from my opinion. BUT, if you would like for me to prove I can fly Amarr ships quite well, I would be happy to 1v1 you with my Amarr toon. Even when sub par, I wll school you. Then we can end this BS about me pvping.

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.30 13:31:00 - [44]
 

As far as me being supposedly "hostile", please show me a post from a CONSTRUCTIVE poster in this thread that I have answered with hostility and I will apologise. The only people that I have flamed were the ones posting insults on my thread. I have respect for peoples opinion, I don't have respect for some asshat coming on the thread acting like a tough guy in his mom's basement over the interwebz, calling everyone a noob that's not him, becauz of his mad flying skillz.

"oh dear, he does not like the ships I fly, it must be his fitting or that he doesn't know how to use them. Let me flame him and assume on his thread that he doesn't get that Eves a PVP game and that he sucks at life/eve"

Blow me.

Yviene
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.30 15:07:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Alexa Akiga
As far as me being supposedly "hostile", please show me a post from a CONSTRUCTIVE poster in this thread that I have answered with hostility and I will apologise. The only people that I have flamed were the ones posting insults on my thread. I have respect for peoples opinion, I don't have respect for some asshat coming on the thread acting like a tough guy in his mom's basement over the interwebz, calling everyone a noob that's not him, becauz of his mad flying skillz.

"oh dear, he does not like the ships I fly, it must be his fitting or that he doesn't know how to use them. Let me flame him and assume on his thread that he doesn't get that Eves a PVP game and that he sucks at life/eve"

Blow me.


You're right, all you do is respond to "hostile" posts (Granted those posts are just rephrasing what the constructive ones are saying). Which means you're also dancing around the issue and ignoring the constructive ones. The fact that you respond with such hostility, to posts which you should be ignoring, shows your density and immaturity to this issue. As for Amarr, there's nothing I can say that hasn't been said already towards the viability of their ships.

Now, with regards to "schooling me:" I highly doubt it, my ships are fitted based on experience, not through EFT warrioring (seems that's the only thing you do). Laughing

Ana Vyr
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.30 19:29:00 - [46]
 

I recently (when the Gurista ECM bug happened) switched to Amaar space and started crosstraining to their ships. I've been running level 4's in a T2 pulse Abaddon...I rather like the ship. I find it more solid than my CNR was, generally speaking, both in tank and firepower. The range limitation hasn't been a problem yet either. In fact, I find the Abaddon much less complex to fly and not having to buy ammo constantly is really nice. The shield low warning still gives me hives, but I'm starting to get used to it :)

Songbird
Gallente
T.I.E. Inc.
Posted - 2011.08.30 19:38:00 - [47]
 

oh noes it's a tarp - damn troll posts.

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.30 23:59:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Yviene
Originally by: Alexa Akiga
As far as me being supposedly "hostile", please show me a post from a CONSTRUCTIVE poster in this thread that I have answered with hostility and I will apologise. The only people that I have flamed were the ones posting insults on my thread. I have respect for peoples opinion, I don't have respect for some asshat coming on the thread acting like a tough guy in his mom's basement over the interwebz, calling everyone a noob that's not him, becauz of his mad flying skillz.

"oh dear, he does not like the ships I fly, it must be his fitting or that he doesn't know how to use them. Let me flame him and assume on his thread that he doesn't get that Eves a PVP game and that he sucks at life/eve"

Blow me.


You're right, all you do is respond to "hostile" posts (Granted those posts are just rephrasing what the constructive ones are saying). Which means you're also dancing around the issue and ignoring the constructive ones. The fact that you respond with such hostility, to posts which you should be ignoring, shows your density and immaturity to this issue. As for Amarr, there's nothing I can say that hasn't been said already towards the viability of their ships.

Now, with regards to "schooling me:" I highly doubt it, my ships are fitted based on experience, not through EFT warrioring (seems that's the only thing you do). Laughing


So lets stop talking about it and set a time and place

Yviene
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.31 00:12:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Yviene on 31/08/2011 00:19:13
Originally by: Alexa Akiga
So lets stop talking about it and set a time and place


Dancing around the issue at hand, yet again. But fine, I'll indulge you, post with your main. Show us there is a chance that you know what you're talking about.

Nor Tzestu
Amarr
Boxwater Intelligence
Posted - 2011.08.31 00:55:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Nor Tzestu on 31/08/2011 00:55:59
Originally by: Yviene
Edited by: Yviene on 31/08/2011 00:19:13
Originally by: Alexa Akiga
So lets stop talking about it and set a time and place


Dancing around the issue at hand, yet again. But fine, I'll indulge you, post with your main. Show us there is a chance that you know what you're talking about.



Clearly this is providence http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1561679

Same tired arguments, same trolling behavior. Next time at least don't use practically the same title for your thread. I wouldn't get to worked up Yviene. Not really worth it.

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.31 01:58:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Nor Tzestu
Edited by: Nor Tzestu on 31/08/2011 00:55:59
Originally by: Yviene
Edited by: Yviene on 31/08/2011 00:19:13
Originally by: Alexa Akiga
So lets stop talking about it and set a time and place


Dancing around the issue at hand, yet again. But fine, I'll indulge you, post with your main. Show us there is a chance that you know what you're talking about.



Clearly this is providence http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1561679

Same tired arguments, same trolling behavior. Next time at least don't use practically the same title for your thread. I wouldn't get to worked up Yviene. Not really worth it.


Not sure how that applies to me seeing as I did not post that, and I only commented on it once

Alexa Akiga
Posted - 2011.08.31 02:12:00 - [52]
 

Allow me to apologise to anyone who feels as though I attacked them. I was meerly defending myself from being flamed for simply putting together a constructive post. I have no idea why people have the right to flame and attack me, but the second I defend myself, I am deemed hostile. When all I did was post my opinion. I guess thats just the community of Eve. However my apologies for attacking anyone

Vera Muhkina
Caldari
Unofficial Master Kuvakei Fan Club
Posted - 2011.09.01 22:17:00 - [53]
 

Several posts said amarr has a crap t1 cruiser lineup in this thread, but I personally like the arbitrator the best out of all the t1 cruisers, being a bit more versatile than the vexor which is also a good ship. In fact the only t1 cruiser I would rather have in my gang is a blackbird, but that has only one role (well maybe two if you really want a bait BB).

Also maller isn't bad, despite it's lack of DPS, and well, I don't like the omen, but I have seen it used well enough to know that it isn't bad either, and I don't see a problem with the Omen Navy Issue either.

Amarr has good drone/ewar boats (arby, curse, pilgrim). It has missle boats that are decent (sac, mal, vengence), it has good bait ships (prophecy, devoter, etc), it has good sniping ships (zealot, apoc, arty abaddon), I could go on, but the point is, Amarr ships are pretty good in their roles.

And, as far as PVE goes, there is nothing wrong with a paladin, or using those amarr skills for a nightmare or even a geddon navy issue.

Amarr only fails at a few things with the biggest failure being t3, with a drone sub that is less than a gila/ishtar, a laser sub that is less than a zealot, a HAM sub that is less than a tengu, and a neut sub that is less than a curse.


Khira Kitamatsu
Posted - 2011.09.02 04:40:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: Alexa Akiga
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 29/08/2011 10:44:50
Amarr ships are well balanced. That is all. Learn to fly them.

Edit: And btw, nobody cares if they suck at some "missions". EVE is a PVP game, deal with it.


Your a total ****ing tool dude. First of all, I love to pvp, so I have no problem with Eve's strong pvp aspect. But to say missions are not a large part of the game or that pve content is not a large part of the game is ******ed. Good luck making money doing pvp alone. I bet you will lose more than you will make.



If you want to PVE fly Caldari missile boats.
If you want to PVP at close range fly minnie.
If you want to PVP at medium to long range fly Amarr.
If you want to play Eve on "Difficult" fly Gallente.

PVE is a means to an end in the world of eve. While their are many PVE and carebear activities in EVE it is first and foremost a PVP game.... hardcore PVP game at that. If you will notice, most of the eve universe is tailored to provoke people to engage in PVP. Hi sec for example was never really meant to be a permanent residence for WOW Players in Space. It is Eves version of noobville and even it is not 100% safe. In fact, it is my opinion that 0.0 is safer most of the time. In 0.0 you are more aware and you know if they arent blue they should be considered hostile. Meanwhile, hi sec gives an artfical sense of security. You can still be wardecced their and suicide gankers will be more than happy to relieve you of your cargo...if its valuable enough.

This game caters to those who like to shed blood and lots of it.


QFT - well said.

pussnheels
Amarr
Vintage heavy industries
Posted - 2011.09.02 07:56:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Vera Muhkina


Amarr only fails at a few things with the biggest failure being t3, with a drone sub that is less than a gila/ishtar, a laser sub that is less than a zealot, a HAM sub that is less than a tengu, and a neut sub that is less than a curse.




I most strongly disagrre with you on this point, while you have a valid point that tge t2 variants are indeed better than the legion in either snipping or neuting. The fact that you can recustomize your legion for those jobs is a greatplus, actually i think the legion is even cheaper than buying all those t 2 cruisers seprepately
And indeed the tengu is far the best t3 cruiser around , the legion isn t far behind and is probably the only t 3 cruiser that works in both a turret config or a missile config ( pulselasers or ham). like any race one need to learn how it flies and how far you can take it,
That is my personal opinion of course

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2011.09.02 08:26:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Alexa Akiga
Edited by: Alexa Akiga on 31/08/2011 02:19:46
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 29/08/2011 10:44:50
Amarr ships are well balanced. That is all. Learn to fly them.

Edit: And btw, nobody cares if they suck at some "missions". EVE is a PVP game, deal with it.


First of all, I love to pvp, so I have no problem with Eve's strong pvp aspect. But to say missions are not a large part of the game or that pve content is not a large part of the game is foolish. Good luck making money doing pvp alone, I bet you will lose more than you will make.


Funny thing is, I make a lot more isk PVP'ing then I do PVE'ing, done so for a long time now. Last night I spent some time tricking and killing an idiot, and got 300 Mill in loot for about an hour of my time. It was fun, and profitable.

And yes, EVE is a PVP game. Mission is just there to give you the isk needed for PVP.

When you realize that, then you simply select the best tool for the job to maximize isk/hour. Quite often that is caldari missile ships.

Amarr ships buffer tank well in PVP is is great in that repect. Thus it is well balanced.

So, deal with it Cool


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