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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.30 16:39:00 - [121]
 

I wish there were more threads like this. Makes me pine a bit for the old 'Hub Zero' threads. As much as I loathe melodrama, I love reading about it.

Gotta chuckle a bit at OP. 'I hate these guys but I'm gonna vote for them but if I had 50B ISK I'd KILL THEM ALL but oooh, look at the shiny medal they gave me!'


Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 16:46:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
I wish there were more threads like this. Makes me pine a bit for the old 'Hub Zero' threads. As much as I loathe melodrama, I love reading about it.

Gotta chuckle a bit at OP. 'I hate these guys but I'm gonna vote for them but if I had 50B ISK I'd KILL THEM ALL but oooh, look at the shiny medal they gave me!'

Love-hate.

They do some good for the game. But they also have a directorate of self-entitled dumbasses.

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 16:48:00 - [123]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:48:28
Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).

Now its just silence. Guess there is no more denial ...

The Drama LLama has pointed out some terrible truths in the Uni management causing others to point out even more. I wouldnt be suprised if the carebear management have called an EMERGENCY SUMMIT to discuss how to progess...

Next on EN24.

Eve University Latest Scandal. Kelduum actually UNDOCKS and leads a fleet to PvP some asteroids to improve Carebear MORALE. The Uni is quoted to be back at "WINNING EVE"

Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.08.30 16:48:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: dum dumdum
Well to give some insight here, its not exactly the pilots fault. They simply arent taught how to pvp


It might have got lost a little in the garble, but that is essentially the point I was trying to make. Obviously it's not the new players fault; it's the fault of the "FC" who knows nothing other than the battle tactic you described.

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 16:53:00 - [125]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:54:04
Originally by: Khanh'rhh
Originally by: dum dumdum
Well to give some insight here, its not exactly the pilots fault. They simply arent taught how to pvp


It might have got lost a little in the garble, but that is essentially the point I was trying to make. Obviously it's not the new players fault; it's the fault of the "FC" who knows nothing other than the battle tactic you described.


Given that the Uni "encourages anyone to step up and be a FC" its not suprising that the Uni Fleets are a joke.

I am all for people learning through experience and that will always involve losing ships. However the blind leading the blind approach of the Uni will lead to epic fail. Hence you arent allowed to rig your frigs and you are not ALLOWED to fly some t2 ships because its Uni policy that their intended result is that the uni fleets end in fail.

"We didnt want those ships anyway"

Rolling Eyes

Korr'Tanas
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:08:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: dum dumdum
Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).

All uni pilots are allowed to post here actually. Must be some other reason why pretty much no one bothers to.

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:22:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:27:53
Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:23:04
Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Originally by: dum dumdum
Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).

All uni pilots are allowed to post here actually. Must be some other reason why pretty much no one bothers to.


As much respect as i have for you Korrtanas (<3 the dragon slaying OPs) im sure Azmodeous and Co can refute you on that. I'd rather not get drawn into a fight regarding beurocracy as the Uni will ofc win on those grounds (or just simple double standards on them). Perhaps a refresher on Welcome to Eve Uni class is needed.

Funnily enough the class is more about "rules of what you cannot do while in Eve Uni" rather than anything else. Start as the carebears mean to carry on. Then again a class which focusses on what you CAN do in the Uni is much shorter

- hisec PvE
- mining
- fail fleets
- station spin
- self space important
- recite the WSOP and many rules of the Uni

Hmm can i join the Uni teaching faculty?

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:26:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Originally by: dum dumdum
Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).

All uni pilots are allowed to post here actually. Must be some other reason why pretty much no one bothers to.

Azmodeus: "It should go without saying that students should not be posting in this thread. Let management take care of it."

Korr'Tanas
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:28:00 - [129]
 

Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:31:00 - [130]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:32:50
Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.


Ok, i wont continue to further argue on this point.

Also when is the next dragon slayer? Seems that the Uni needs a morale booster. I can provide a carrier if you can pay for it (after subtracting the insurance ofc). Compared to how much isk the Uni wastes on Faildecshield, it would be a good investment and a boost to your killboard.

Plus i heard that it wont be the first time that the uni stages a kill to improve morale "70+ shooters on a single Pod".


Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:38:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.

I got in **** for posting at EN24. The posting rules are kind of as Azmodeus defines them day-to-day.

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:44:00 - [132]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:44:59
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Originally by: dum dumdum
Funny that innitially the Eve Uni guys were quick to post and defend their E-Honor (at least those who are ALLOWED to in the EVE UNI LONG BORING LIST OF RULES OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANT DO).

All uni pilots are allowed to post here actually. Must be some other reason why pretty much no one bothers to.

Azmodeus: "It should go without saying that students should not be posting in this thread. Let management take care of it."


This is one thing that the Uni does do very very well. It scares the poop outta new recruits that they dont do anything that may even be remotely against one of the many "rules" of Eve Uni.

A common conversation on the Uni Voice Coms server

new n00b - Hey can i do XXX
older n00bs - NO
new n00b - Why not
older n00bs - Its against the rules - Link to Eve Uni Wiki Pages of Rules
new n00b - Why is it against the rules ...
older n00bs - ... silence ... (we dont know) ... its NOT ALLOWED
new n00b - but ...
older n00bs - If you do it Admiral Silentbrick or Ubercado will come and pod kill you and then you will get kicked from the Uni. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
new n00b - ... no ...
older n00bs - Order is restored (we WIN at EVE)

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:45:00 - [133]
 

Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 30/08/2011 17:47:15

Quote:
Granted, I heard this second-hand,

my uncles cousins wifes friend said she heard from a reliable source that....

P.S. linking to yourself doesn't make the rumour more credible.


Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:48:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Barbara Nichole
Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 30/08/2011 17:45:45
Quote:
Granted, I heard this second-hand,

my uncles cousins wifes friend said she heard from a reliable source that....

What? What did she hear? Don't leave us hanging!

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:50:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Barbara Nichole
P.S. linking to yourself doesn't make the rumour more credible.
Kelduum adds much to the credibility on the second page. Keep reading. It's a fun thread. Laughing

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 17:54:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 17:54:33
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.

I got in **** for posting at EN24. The posting rules are kind of as Azmodeus defines them day-to-day.


Suprised much? Thats what you get for rocking the Carebear boat. OMG YOU PUBLIC POSTED! ORPHANAGE WILL WAR DEC US NOW! OH NOEZ!

Power Tripping Carebears. They cant beat you in Eve so they beat you in the only way they can ... beurocracy.

And as a side note, do you give a f*** if you are talked down upon by a Director of Logistics? Aka the king of the most carebear profession. He / She is probably ****ed that he/she cant macro mine as much with his/her 10+ accounts of orcas and hulks. Clearly you may disrupt his/her WINNING at EVE.

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:01:00 - [137]
 

Edited by: Poetic Stanziel on 30/08/2011 18:04:52
Originally by: dum dumdum
Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:24:08
Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 16:13:05
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: dum dumdum
Admiral Silentn00b

Funny Silentb00b story.

Two weeks ago, he brings out his first fleet in months. To Russian sov space. He's carrying an SBU unit with him.

In the sov system, he places the SBU unit and anchors it. Apparently, after anchoring an SBU, you have to wait some period of time before you can online it. Everyone is sitting around chatting. Waiting. The time approaches when it can be onlined. Suddenly a Cheetah from U.K.R.A.I.N.E. uncloaks next to the SBU and he onlines it. Cheetah gets away. Everyone sits around dumbfounded.

This is the killmail of the Uni destroying its own SBU.

Good times.

The Uni now teaches a Sovereignty 101 class.


The Rear Admiral wanted to disprove his pvp impotency by leading a great fleet to do a nice POS Bash. Last minute n00bing around lead him to realise that shooting a POS which actually has some defence may lead to actually risking your ship in pvp. Deterred by this revalation, Silentn00b instead decided to do what you have described.


This is Silentbrick's interpretation of the evening:

"Lemme think, instead we went on a rampage and oh, killed a POS. So there's a flaw in your whining. Besides, if the intelligence landscape changes in EVE, we must change with it."

As found at his blog. His blog post was a reply to my description of the evening.

Crystal Liche
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:08:00 - [138]
 

Hmm, this would really be an employee run corp.

I think the one clear line would have to be that the employee(s) in charge of this corp should not have any access or authority when it comes to resolving disputes.


For example, pirate whacks new player, a no no but not a GM issue.

What if under the new plan the employee leader, under the guise of some subjective criteria such as "greifing", has the pirates account banned?


Not good.

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:10:00 - [139]
 

This should never happen.

Not only because of the obvious exploitablity and abuse of power in the hands of 3rd party interests (aka player run, not CCP run), its also counter productive to the goals of CCP (promote ppl to join player corps, break echo chambers and really have fun), which are good for the health of the game in the long run.

I always teach noobs, maybe not en masse like EVE uni but the ones I tutor become the best pvpers, FCs and the like.

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:12:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: dum dumdum
EDIT- Also plz more links to your blog thnx Rolling Eyes

His blog post needed the context. (I've refrained from posting links for the last three pages, man, cut me some slack! Laughing)

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:30:00 - [141]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 18:33:15
Originally by: CARB0N FIBER
I see some prison style violence in your future! drop and spread em in game!


Good luck with that

@ Poetic

Spies in the Uni mumble have indicated that a group which includes the Admiral are out for your blood. I wonder if griefing and suicide ganking are allowed in the long list of Uni rules? Then again there is always the GTFO outta Jail card (Director ordered it so its ok). Either way id watch your back Poetic.

Bubbles Udan
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:34:00 - [142]
 

Poetic I am truly disappointed.

CCP is going to turn these forums into facebook next patch.

If you had waited a few more days, this thread would have had much more ironic humor.

Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:34:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Korr'Tanas
Trust me, I know the rules. This isn't CAOD, uni pilots are allowed to post in this thread.


In true University style, some suggested reading on the subject to which you may find the following pertinent:
Quote:
IVY members are not authorised to post on the 'Corporations, Alliances and Organizations Center' of the Eve Online forums unless given explicit permission by a director.
IVY members are not authorised to post on any thread on the Eve Online forums which mentions a current or past conflict involving IVY or E-UNI, unless given explicit permission by a director.


By the way, this thread mentions several, both personal and corp/alliance wide.

Oops.

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:35:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: dum dumdum
Have the Eve Uni unistas disowned you yet Poetic?

Probably. But then 90% are sheep who hang off the nuts of the directors. There are a few quality free-thinkers in the organization.

Quote:
I assume you are banned from the Eve Uni forums and Voice Coms server too

My Poetic Stanziel account, yes. My alt account. No. I wasn't dumb enough to tell them what that was when I created it two months ago. The chatter in Public Lounge has been on-again off-again amusing. Every thirty minutes someone asks if anyone has seen the EVE-O forums, and then someone says "Don't believe anything you read. He was kicked for not obeying the rules." And then a bunch of "he's butthurt" comments. Then they get back to discussing incursion fits.

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:37:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: dum dumdum
@ Poetic

Spies in the Uni mumble have indicated that a group which includes the Admiral are out for your blood. I wonder if griefing and suicide ganking are allowed in the long list of Uni rules? Then again there is always the GTFO outta Jail card (Director ordered it so its ok). Either way id watch your back Poetic.

I know. I can dock up with the best of them. I was in the Uni after all. :)

El Atreyu
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:38:00 - [146]
 

I've just spent the last 15 minutes reading this thread while taking a sh*t. I'm not sure what stinks more, I'll have to get back to you.

What strikes me as amusing is the conversation Poetic is having with her obvious alt Dumdumdum. It's clear she's either bipolar or suffering from Dissociative identity disorder. Regardless of which it is, I suggest you seek medical treatment asap to obtain medication to alleviate your condition. If this thread and your blog are any indication your condition is spiraling out of control and I worry for your safety.

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:43:00 - [147]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 18:45:58
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: dum dumdum
@ Poetic

Spies in the Uni mumble have indicated that a group which includes the Admiral are out for your blood. I wonder if griefing and suicide ganking are allowed in the long list of Uni rules? Then again there is always the GTFO outta Jail card (Director ordered it so its ok). Either way id watch your back Poetic.

I know. I can dock up with the best of them. I was in the Uni after all. :)


Ah i didnt know you also still have access to their Voice Coms. I (mistakenly) assumed that you were a typical eve uni n00b with no forward thinking at all. For that i apologise.

I hear that there is a lot of sheep nature in that mumble server. Whats most hilarious is that apparently a certain someone on the mumble server has a fanfare noise linked to their push to talk button for the express purpose of showing that someone uber important is speaking and everyone else should stfu.

self space important carebear much?

id love a recording of it but the spies are n00by and havent provided me with one yet. Clearly they are in the most suitable corp for them


Originally by: El Atreyu
I've just spent the last 15 minutes reading this thread while taking a sh*t. I'm not sure what stinks more, I'll have to get back to you.

What strikes me as amusing is the conversation Poetic is having with her obvious alt Dumdumdum. It's clear she's either bipolar or suffering from Dissociative identity disorder. Regardless of which it is, I suggest you seek medical treatment asap to obtain medication to alleviate your condition. If this thread and your blog are any indication your condition is spiraling out of control and I worry for your safety.


Perhaps you should have left that impressive deduction back in the toilet. It seems clear to me that you are having some delusions of your own. Also i hope that you washed your mouth as well as your hands since you have two orifii leaking excrement.

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:45:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Azmodeus Valar (aka El Atreyu)
I've just spent the last 15 minutes reading this thread while taking a sh*t. I'm not sure what stinks more, I'll have to get back to you.

What strikes me as amusing is the conversation Poetic is having with her obvious alt Dumdumdum. It's clear she's either bipolar or suffering from Dissociative identity disorder. Regardless of which it is, I suggest you seek medical treatment asap to obtain medication to alleviate your condition. If this thread and your blog are any indication your condition is spiraling out of control and I worry for your safety.

Is this the top plan the Uni came up with to divert the thread, Azmodeus?

dum dumdum
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:47:00 - [149]
 

Edited by: dum dumdum on 30/08/2011 18:56:07
Originally by: Poetic Stanziel
Originally by: Azmodeus Valar (aka El Atreyu)
I've just spent the last 15 minutes reading this thread while taking a sh*t. I'm not sure what stinks more, I'll have to get back to you.

What strikes me as amusing is the conversation Poetic is having with her obvious alt Dumdumdum. It's clear she's either bipolar or suffering from Dissociative identity disorder. Regardless of which it is, I suggest you seek medical treatment asap to obtain medication to alleviate your condition. If this thread and your blog are any indication your condition is spiraling out of control and I worry for your safety.

Is this the top plan the Uni came up with to divert the thread, Azmodeus?


The top plan is to claim its all lies.

Denial clearly works and has served the Uni well in past years.

e.g.

WE DIDNT HAVE A SPY FROM PL AS A SENOIR STAFF MEMBER
WE DIDNT HAEMORRHAGE INTEL TO TEST
THE NEW ILN IS WORKING GREAT
SILENTBRICK IS A TOP ADMIRAL AND IS UP TO DATE WITH THE CURRENT PVP ENVIRONMENT STATE

See ... its easy. Just say "its all LIES".

Whats sad is that the standard eve uni member questions nothing. "Top Eve Lesson - everyone else is out to get you and will lie through their teeth but us ... you can trust us ..."

Poetic Stanziel
Gallente
Macbeth Transport and Freight LLC
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:53:00 - [150]
 

Edited by: Poetic Stanziel on 30/08/2011 20:28:36


Originally by: dum dumdum
SILENTBRICK IS A TOP ADMIRAL AND IS UP TO DATE WITH THE CURRENT PVP ENVIRONMENT STATE

Top Admiral apparently only has 25 ship killmails to his name in two years.


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