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Cannibal Kane
Kane's Terrorist
Posted - 2011.08.24 12:58:00 - [1]
 


Got the Question for the More Experienced.

With all the Merc Threads, where every person and his Alt seems to be offering “Merc” services is it even a viable profession anymore?

I have a Corp of three players and as many other Corps looking at growing but at my own pace. We barely have over 1 years’ worth of game time amongst us, and I am starting to look at viable income sources for us. Now I could continue my random asshatary but generating an income from that is few and far between (Although it can be alot at once)or I could look at doing something a bit more respectable such as Merc work. Is that even viable for a corp my size? Or is it just simpler to move into an established Merc Corp?

How much work does the average Merc corp get? To me PVP is a zero sum game ISK wise, but you do get lucky with drops or the random ISK from people due to dubious reasons, but does Merc work actually pay for your members to continue their PVP?

Any recommendation or Ideas from those with more experience is welcomed. I am just mulling at the moment so any thoughts will be great.

*Troll Suit On* - Have a go Gents.

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Posted - 2011.08.24 14:14:00 - [2]
 

Sure, it is viable.

Do not, however, confuse skillpoints and player counts with efficiency; your ability to finish the job is the sole metric by which you will be judged. The capability to violence someone's boat is not the sole means to that end. Granted, if you are too new, you might want to spend at least a few months/years picking up on the intricacies of the game in others' corporations.

Concerning whether or not mercenary work is a good source of income, well, I would not say that it is. The game is simply built in such a manner that carebearing (or scamming) is more profitable. That does not mean that you will lose money, unless you are not good. It is simply a case of the majority of [high-sec] clients not realizing that anyone who can fight outnumbered and win can also blitz through level fours without a gang or go into wormholes without soiling the pantaloons. Oftentimes, clients will not be able to afford you, and you are likely to end up undercharging (once again, unless you are not good).

There is a big difference between the "alt merc thread" fad outfits that seek out clients, and the outfits that get sought out by them. Do it because you enjoy it and want to get good at it, and the money will not be a problem.

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2011.08.25 02:38:00 - [3]
 

There's a lot of these fly by night merc posts going up. It's hard to tell how many of those are serious and will stick around or how many contracts the rest are sapping from those who are actually serious.

At the moment there's 16 non alliance mercs in the Merc Contracts, i believe almost all of them are less than 50 members. Mail a few of the CEO's there to ask them how many contracts they turn down due to capacity before you make the decision to go into buisiness.

If there's more contracts than can be handled and you're willing to put a lot of work into it you can definitly make mercing profitble for you and your members. If other smaller mercs are scrapping for jobs you wont have much of an edge in competition, so if you still want to do merc PVP i'd look at taking your friends and joining an established unit.

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.08.25 02:43:00 - [4]
 

its not a viable profession because the majority of them are scammers and the rest are just incompetent. fight your own battles.

Efraya
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:25:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille
its not a viable profession because the majority of them are scammers and the rest are just incompetent. fight your own battles.


The butt hurt is strong in this one.

Ceylia Endashi
Posted - 2011.08.25 15:12:00 - [6]
 

If you think you would enjoy merc work then have a go!

It's only a game afterall. Nothing stopping you from trying it. If you get killed then so what? Do a few free gigs and get a good reputation.

Once you find a niche then it gets pretty interesting.

Definitely research what the market requires.

I was bowled over by the amount of people wanting intel services just because they want to play the game and not have to worry about gathering it themselves. Yes, you can make isk out of laziness! Corp and alliance infiltration is also a really good earner. You need to get a network up and running but it requires more real life skill than skillpoints to pull off in my opinion. It's amazing what people will buy in eve, even commodities like information are in demand.

So it's not all pew pew these days. Sure you can smash people in the face with a cricket bat if you want, but people don't seem content with standard revenge anymore. Gone are the days when clients laugh at a killboard full of broken ships and poddings. They want humiliation and that means getting close enough to p**s in their coffee.

Merc work has evolved.

Wink


xenodia
Gallente
DYNAMIC INTERVENTION
ORPHANS OF EVE
Posted - 2011.08.25 16:48:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Cannibal Kane

Got the Question for the More Experienced.

With all the Merc Threads, where every person and his Alt seems to be offering “Merc” services is it even a viable profession anymore?

I have a Corp of three players and as many other Corps looking at growing but at my own pace. We barely have over 1 years’ worth of game time amongst us, and I am starting to look at viable income sources for us. Now I could continue my random asshatary but generating an income from that is few and far between (Although it can be alot at once)or I could look at doing something a bit more respectable such as Merc work. Is that even viable for a corp my size? Or is it just simpler to move into an established Merc Corp?

How much work does the average Merc corp get? To me PVP is a zero sum game ISK wise, but you do get lucky with drops or the random ISK from people due to dubious reasons, but does Merc work actually pay for your members to continue their PVP?

Any recommendation or Ideas from those with more experience is welcomed. I am just mulling at the moment so any thoughts will be great.

*Troll Suit On* - Have a go Gents.



I made a pretty good living for years doing merc work in Trinity Nova, REPO, and the like. Being effective is all about making sure you have enough people to do the contract. With only 2 or 3 people you will be more limited in what you can take on, but you can still find gainful employment.

Kabars
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.08.26 11:11:00 - [8]
 

Talk with guys like Alex and other merc corp leaders if there good and know they are secure in there proffesions they will talk to you and give you ideas

Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo
Posted - 2011.08.26 14:18:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: fgft Athonille
its not a viable profession because the majority of them are scammers and the rest are just incompetent. fight your own battles.


Yep, agreed...

Just recently, F2B hired TEMPLAR. who were suppose to be "mercs". We counter offered for the lulz, which they responded that they are "honorable mercs" and refused business. MERCS GO TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER! You are just not a mercenary unless you follow a merc agenda, which is money.

Then, they failscaded, with a 14% efficiency against one member of our Alliance. ONE. Fail "Mercs" are Fail...

A large group of these "mercs" are just private guns for hire, which is not neccesarily a mercenary. Real mercenaries would work for whoever pays them the most. Simple. So "real" mercenary work is viable, since they aren't overpopulated.

Jin Naakua
Posted - 2011.08.26 18:46:00 - [10]
 

A good merc group doesn't have too many problems finding work. People with good combat records get better / more jobs.

I would recommend getting some practice against actual formidable opponents, instead of can flipping and baiting in Caldari starter areas... like Jouvulen?

Nothing makes people laugh at mercs more than a bunch of failfit newb-mobiles on your killboard


 

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