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St Boltzmann
Minmatar
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2011.08.24 21:24:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Royaldo
just wanted to chip in that supers are in fact t1
also isnt op an alt of someone in morsus mihi?



just want 2 chip in ur alliance is dead lmao

play it loud

EI Digin
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.08.24 21:25:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: EI Digin on 24/08/2011 21:25:01
didn't read any part of this thread ugh

White Tree
Gallente
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.08.24 21:28:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: St Boltzmann
Originally by: Royaldo
just wanted to chip in that supers are in fact t1
also isnt op an alt of someone in morsus mihi?



just want 2 chip in ur alliance is dead lmao

play it loud

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Caldari Citizen 2584242
Caldari
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.08.24 21:30:00 - [94]
 

I began by mostly jelqing 50-60% erect and doing some stretches. I guess I started out with about 10 min jelq and maybe 5 min stretch (I found stretches tedious, so I often omitted them). 3 weeks later I noted that my **** seemed heavier and meatier in my hands so I whipped out the ruler and found that in that time I had gianed over 1/2 inch in length. This was much to much to be accounted for by error and variable technique so it only took 3 weeks for me to become a believer. I took erect measurments as well, but in the early going I mainly followed bpfsl. I did this because it didn't take as much time and fuss and produced the most reliable results.Over the next few months I would gradually increase my # of jelqs per day from 200-300 to 900 per day. (10 min to about 50 min jelq). I still didn't care much for stretching so I probably only got up to about 10 or 12 min stretch and sometimes still ommited them. I ended up getting somewhat of a baseball bat effect and later decreased jelq and increased the stretches. I ended up with a more or less cylindrical ****.

Chomp Wom
Gallente
Broski Federation
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.08.24 21:31:00 - [95]
 

I'm so jenked right now

Womyn Power
Gallente
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2011.08.24 21:51:00 - [96]
 

lol supercaps fly rifters u ****in nerds who the **** flies super caps what do you have autism and an inferiorituy complex and a tiny ***** lolollolo

Lups
Caldari
Pandora Sphere
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2011.08.24 22:58:00 - [97]
 

ok, skipped straight from the bottom of page 1 to sumwhere deep into page 4.

remember the days of having a single rr on a bs and balling up on sumone for reps? most of u wont, them that flame will claim to of won eve, the rest will be either goon or test kindergarten..

but seriously, what about if dreads could rr eachother, whilst in seige but not receive reps from anything else nor rep anything else other than a dread. maybe the rep could be balanced when they are in seige. there are a few ways and means here, maybe limit any form of rep to people who are only in your squad and perhaps put a timer on it so squad jumping is delayed.

well i dunno but lets b honest here, dreads are useless, the astarte is useless, railguns are useless.

CCP there has to be some form of equilibrium here due to us older players being skilled enough to adapt very easily. it should be all about decent FC's making decent calls, always trying to expect the unexpected and so on and so forth.

please do something ccp before the uber geeks u put on eve tv during the alliance tourneys start impregnating our children


greets

LPY

Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.08.24 23:58:00 - [98]
 

Also,

If SCs get nerfed, then people will either:

1) Get more SCs cause they are cheaper (and then you'll see 50 SCs on gates....)
2) Get into titans if they are not cheaper

So instead of seeing 200 SCs, you'll see 200 titans...

I am happy in either case, or if there is a new counter to SCs, or nothing happens at all Very Happy

Rhaegor Stormborn
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.08.25 00:07:00 - [99]
 

I agree they need to be nerfed, and the sov system revamped, but if they do they need to do something to reimburse the players who have spent so long skilling for these ships and spent countless billions on them. It would be terrible for those of us who do have them now to suffer heavy handed nerfs as we were forced down this path by CCP's game design.

Sephiroth CloneIIV
Gallente
Rim Worlds Republic
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.08.25 00:42:00 - [100]
 

Once they are nerfed is PL going to make less racist jokes?

Shamis Orzoz
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.08.25 00:47:00 - [101]
 

There are a ton of things wrong with 0.0, and PvP in general. Supercaps are not one of them.

Centra Spike
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.08.25 00:54:00 - [102]
 

P.S.

Zulu Squad 4 lyfe.

McKinlay
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.08.25 02:05:00 - [103]
 

There be some straight up mad poor people in dis thread.

Listen. Peee Ellll has been roaming the map pubstomping major alliances that had vastly superior numbers of supercaps. IT, Atlas, -A-, NC, Goons, all fell, not due to superior numbers, but because of superior tactics and execution.

Y'all just need to learn to innovate and adapt, rather than crying on a forum. Crying or Very sad

Vasentic
Gallente
The Remnant Legion.
The Remnant Legion
Posted - 2011.08.25 02:15:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Vasentic on 25/08/2011 02:16:26
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Cpt Tunguska
Currently most of conquerable space in eve-online is owned by one single supercap coalition. They are forming huge Titan spams and kill off everything in their way, without the slightest chance to counter this playstyle. Right now the last independant alliance is under fire. They will fall soon, they dont have a chance to beat the Titan blobs and doomsday spams. Subcapital ships and capitals cant do anything beside dieing in horrible lag, caused by hundrets of supercarriers and their 20 fighters each.

I just want to ask the question:

WHEN?

How hard is it to nerf 2 shipclasses to make room for a more diverse playstyle? What takes that much time? Just remove them from frontlines by reducing their stats by 95% and make subcaps/capital ships the major players again, like it was before Dominion Thats the only way to save the server from beeing 100% uniform.

Supercaps were buffed with dominion, and it made sense at this time. They were more or less evenly distibuted amongst different alliances. But then something happened ccp could not reckon with: Most supercap heavy alliances like IT (rdn), PL, NCdot, Evoke, white noise, red and many others banded together and formed one huge supercap-alliance, which is currently burning down the server, just by jumping in titans/scs. And once it formed up, individual supercap pilots kept running to them, just to make it worse.

This heavily uneven distrubution of supercaps cant be ever reversed. Like 80% of all acive pvping supercaps play in the same team. Theres no counter and no hope with current game mechanics. Remove DDs, remove Titans!

Dot it now Cool


If you nerf supers to make sub caps 'matter again' (protip they matter now) then you need to re introduce the AOE DD so that sheer numbers aren't all that matters, again.

That time in EVE was as gay as it gets, and theres absolutely no reason to go back to 'xxxx number of ships means you wing'


Yea totally gay, more numbers never win. EVER.

I mean its not like the Soviet Union could defeat Germany (which was more technologically advanced, better trained and had more fire power) by having more soldiers.

owait.........

Wu Phat
Caldari
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.08.25 03:01:00 - [105]
 

Edited by: Wu Phat on 25/08/2011 12:59:01
2 things I look very forward to in the winter expansion.

Static local: The number of bots killed and/or offlined for the first week to month will create a river of tears. Truth be told botters eve needs you but eve also needs to control you. So you want this to happen. It's balancing and justifies what you do. CCP turns a blind eye and people that want to kill you have a chance to kill you with higher risk to themselves of being killed becasue you really will not know what will be on the other side of a gate.

Dread Buff Sc/Titan Nerf : Means I can end up droping my triage carrier more often. Regular capital production will boom back and super production will slow down. I think that is what CCP wants and what the economy needs is more ships including supers destroyed.

Note Thulium is an R64 Moon goo poo but is the least valuable out off all moon goo poo. Fix that.

Jones Bones
Minmatar
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.08.25 03:43:00 - [106]
 

I heard this is the thread to post in if you're mad.

I just ate a burrito and the beans were overcooked. I will join in your chorus of MADNESS!

Mr Peanut420
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.08.25 05:16:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: McKinlay
There be some straight up mad poor people in dis thread.

Listen. Peee Ellll has been roaming the map pubstomping major alliances that had vastly superior numbers of supercaps. IT, Atlas, -A-, NC, Goons, all fell, not due to superior numbers, but because of superior tactics and execution.

Y'all just need to learn to innovate and adapt, rather than crying on a forum. Crying or Very sad


Wow Mckinlay...the hubris...you used to be cool...lolkia. I think most major alliances are following the PL example to the letter...abandon all sov so you only fight on your terms, never fight unless you have a hard counter for the enemy, ***** for botted russian supercap handouts. You adapted earliest because you got stomped out of sov earliest, well done.

Feligast
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.08.25 05:28:00 - [108]
 

Grath, I KNOW you need a hug now. Soz about your carrier, m8m8m8o7o7o7

Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.08.25 05:31:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Jones Bones
I heard this is the thread to post in if you're mad.

I just ate a burrito and the beans were overcooked. I will join in your chorus of MADNESS!


I know that feel bro. I just made a TV dinner and it tastes horrible.

Ante Christ
Gallente
V I R I I
Posted - 2011.08.25 06:32:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Suitonia
Originally by: boliano

Ok so an nc player saying we need to stop being a blob. lol oh the irony..



The NC is dead.


The NC is now just a new group of alliances bearing it up in old NC space.

Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.08.25 06:58:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Ante Christ
Originally by: Suitonia
Originally by: boliano

Ok so an nc player saying we need to stop being a blob. lol oh the irony..



The NC is dead.


The NC is now just a new group of alliances bearing it up in old NC space.


The NC is dead.

Cpt Tunguska
Minmatar
In for the Kill
Scooty Puff Junior Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.25 10:11:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: Cpt Tunguska on 25/08/2011 10:11:40
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Ante Christ
Originally by: Suitonia

The NC is dead.


The NC is now just a new group of alliances bearing it up in old NC space.


The NC is dead.


There is always a new NC. Current NC consists of raiden, ncdot, evoke, pl, white noise and all the other russians + their pets. Must be even bigger than the old one, ofc with alot more supers. They even start to loose ****fit ratting Nyx' to gankers, like it is shown @ pl lossboard.

mama guru
Gallente
Thundercats
Posted - 2011.08.25 13:24:00 - [113]
 

Leave Supercaps alone!!!

No really, all you need to do is to remove the ewar immunity. That way they wont be nearly as overpowered, make them dependant on escorts as real capital ships are. You don't need to cut their HP by 70% to do this. I really hope CCP gets creative with the inevitable nerf. Anyone who can't see that Supercaps are broken now should probably unsub and rethink their life for a few weeks. They are like battleships were before tracking got added, its rediculous.

Centra Spike
Caldari
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:30:00 - [114]
 

Man we lost a Nyx, I would say it's ALREADY replaced by the 25 billion ISK we get PER DAY from tech moons, but since they are getting nerfed we're buying him a dozen Thanatoses, not that he can tell the difference.

Oscasre
Amarr
Anger Management
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:43:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: Oscasre on 25/08/2011 14:45:18

Sort the problem out once and for all ...

Anyone who has a Super capital (like myself) stick 20 Billion in the wallet and remove the ship from the game.

Anyone who has a Titan stick 80 Billion in the wallet and remove the ship from the game.

Increase the build requirements for both by x 10 to x 20

100 Super Capitals go to 10 or 5

50 Titans go to 5 or 2

People will then see a Super and go WoW and OMFG if a Titan appears on the battlefield.

Marivauder
Amarr
Reloaded.
Usurper.
Posted - 2011.08.25 15:12:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Oscasre
Quote:
Wrong. As long as they are as OP as they are, alliances, corps, and individuals will still buy them. This also does not affect the current number of supers or their efficacy, only the amount that may be built in the future, so it does not serve to solve any kind of problems.


Complete Rubbish .... they have been built unchecked for years and in your own admission increasing the build cost by 10 x would
effect the future .....

The ships are fine the problem is the numbers like most things in this game .......

Remove Titans and Supers and the alliances will be sitting at the gates in 1000 Caps, remove them and it will be a 1000 BS and ditto ....
All capitals need the build time and minerals increasing by x 10 and then the numbers will drop



you are stupid stupid stupid stupid

first off, making there build time and mineral price more will not drop the titans, all it will do will slow down,

and also more to your stupid, making the build time long, how the hell is that even going to effect the current amount of super caps in game, we don't need something to fix supers for future, we need something to fix supers now!,


To what someone said earlier, limiting the amount of supers isn't a bad idea, but a bad idea at the same time, 2 reasons why i find this bad, remvoing the sandbox part of the game and limiting stuff, also... say you make it so each alliance can only bring out 5 titans and 15 supercarriers, you still gotta take note.. thats 20 supers on a field from one alliance, then you put into eve prospective, (wn, ra, xxdeathxx, ncdot, evoke, raiden) theres 30 titans and 90 supercarriers, the side with the bigger coalition of super caps is STILL going to win.

My idea, just take down abit of the EHP, make it so titans can't recieve any ewar (tracking links) and super carriers... well have a penalty for using one, like "25-75% tracking speed for fighters"

My opinion personally

Oscasre
Amarr
Anger Management
Posted - 2011.08.25 15:14:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Oscasre on 25/08/2011 15:16:18
Quote:
you are stupid stupid stupid stupid

first off, making there build time and mineral price more will not drop the titans, all it will do will slow down,

and also more to your stupid, making the build time long, how the hell is that even going to effect the current amount of super caps in game, we don't need something to fix supers for future, we need something to fix supers now!,


To what someone said earlier, limiting the amount of supers isn't a bad idea, but a bad idea at the same time, 2 reasons why i find this bad, remvoing the sandbox part of the game and limiting stuff, also... say you make it so each alliance can only bring out 5 titans and 15 supercarriers, you still gotta take note.. thats 20 supers on a field from one alliance, then you put into eve prospective, (wn, ra, xxdeathxx, ncdot, evoke, raiden) theres 30 titans and 90 supercarriers, the side with the bigger coalition of super caps is STILL going to win.

My idea, just take down abit of the EHP, make it so titans can't recieve any ewar (tracking links) and super carriers... well have a penalty for using one, like "25-75% tracking speed for fighters"

My opinion personally


read the post above yours dips hit

McKinlay
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.08.25 15:53:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Centra Spike
Man we lost a Nyx, I would say it's ALREADY replaced by the 25 billion ISK we get PER DAY from tech moons, but since they are getting nerfed we're buying him a dozen Thanatoses, not that he can tell the difference.


I hear on the grapevine THULIUM is the next TECHNETIUM Shocked

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.08.25 16:02:00 - [119]
 

Edited by: Spurty on 25/08/2011 16:04:26
**** nerfing them, make more ships that can kill em.

From the real World, take Japanese Zero Fighters as an example.

Pilot rams the titan and explodes killing pilot and ship and doing massive damage to target.

Signature Resolution
1000 m

Deals 500,000 (pick your flavour) type damage to the target.

Hikari mode only available on Super or titan class targets (so no 2 volleying regular caps lolz)

No splash damage, no point using them on anything except capital ships as well.

That's its primary use.

Secondary use, can fire 3 cruise missiles.

Hull = destroyer

GO GO GO CCP.

Make it so!

Laughing

Wu Phat
Caldari
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.08.25 16:07:00 - [120]
 

SC fix: 1)Decrease the volley output of Fighter Bombers.
2)Decrease the EHP from 4 - 5 to 2 - 2.5 Mill
3)Take away immunity to E-War.

Dread Fix: 1) EhP increase to 2 - 2.5 Mill
2) Add 25% Resistance to shield & armor to siege/triage mode check list.
3) Increase the volley output on all capital turrents while in siege mode.

Titan Fix: 1) Personal Jump range decreased to 5.7 from 7.5 light years.
2) Jump Portal range gets separated from Jump range
3) Jump Portal range increased to 10 light years
4) Increase Bridge Range from 2.5km's to 7.5 km's
(Basicly It can send ships further then it can jump it self.)





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