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FireSea Moribito
Posted - 2011.08.23 18:20:00 - [1]
 

Uber noob here, 1.5 mil SP, flame away pls.

I am an mmo lover. Like IRL, I constantly look for greener grass to call home. If I can I will make it greener if I see potential. EvE has such potential with little green.

So how can I help make it better?

One, it is not a "sandbox" where you can get away with anything. Makes me sick to see bio's stating such.

Two, ships; the ability to change ship shape or color.. hell, even just the corp or alliance insignia or hue of the base color.. would love to have flames painted on my rifters... would endure the populous to their own equipment more. Love of their ships will increase customer loyalty to EvE, improve the aesthetic quality and make them see they are destroying works of art thus cutting down on the random destruction of other peoples ships with so much time and love put into them.. Think about it, if you don't love your ship, she won't tell you when she needs help. She will kill you.

Three, don't you get tired of the same floor-plan at every dock? Granted there are too many stations to update but allowing the community to upgrade their homes (pictures, furniture, wallpaper, walls, windows, anything...), if only at their corp HQ, they would have a higher propensity to call it, "Home" with the true meaning of the word. Developing the community's true love of EvE would vastly improve the quality of the people, wars, skirmishes, corps, alliances, and base social structure. (Means thousands more female players and 10's of thousands more adult players over 35.) More fun and excitement because of the raised quality of the passion for the adventure.

Four, music score... wth? Ambient electronic music is well and good but what is available is mostly dark and depressing with semi-excessive surrealism that drones on so to speak. I know a thousand people who could have done a better job writing a score that would not only be in context of the realities of space but would also stir passion and add more wanted flavor for the adventure and excitement. (Can give several names off hand. [Why do you think "Bejeweled 2" was so popular? The music and ET backgrounds.]) Hell, people would log on just for the music. This too would increase the quality of the expensive chat program known as EvE. Think about it, it is a social network with games inside, not the other way around. AKA... EvE Is Real.

Five, quit with the mandatory hardware upgrade necessity. How many people did you lose and or anger because of that hardwired shader? I estimate 30% of the world's populous that would make the economy of EvE 50% more advantageous for everyone, including CCP, would or could not upgrade. Could it not have been made so it could be disabled when the proper hardware was not detected? Did computer manufacturers force CCP? (I consider bribes forcing btw, especially in our flailing economy.)

Six, is there an option to only see the ship in dock? If one is forced to see the same quarters at every station that looks like the bathroom of a steel mill, can't one have an option to turn it off? This should be a simple program tweak.

Again, think about it...

The killer whale feel of an unknown player's Brutix ramming you out of warp with a painted sharp toothed grin. The Narglfar.. Naglelfar... The Minmatar Dreadnaught painted like a mirror thus reflecting the stars around it or solid flat-black making it seem to suddenly appear out of nowhere would have a mysterious and ominous quality that would be hard to forget when stumbled upon. Pictures on the walls of you home of your favorite battles and scenes. A rifter, hotrod red with flames on the front. A Maelstrom Battleship with solar-panels in a position that doesn't make it look like a sleeping butterfly. Ship-shows where people would come together to show off paintjobs, body styles and fits.

CCP would increase the customer base by at least 20% up to 70% if they simply adjusted these few things. Could be done in a year and earn CCP millions more so pls.

Fire

Coeus Enderas
Caldari
Posted - 2011.08.23 19:53:00 - [2]
 

1) your adding percents and numbers with no math to back it up. it does not make your argument look smarter.

2) EvE is a sandbox, in the same sense GTA is a sandbox, you can do what you want but with restrictions. eve just has fewer restrictions than most MMO's.

3) if you added a ship painter i would predict a portion of the community would start shooting at a particular Statue in Jita because it did not add new ships or systems.

4) adding in-home decorations would have to be handled either through NPC's or the NeX. both of those would get some of the old timers riled up because players did not make them and they cant be blown up. also, see #3

5)i THINK there is a way to add your own sound track into the game, but ive never tried. i just run WMP or iTunes in the background

6) they cannot run the same graphics/physics engines forever. in order for growth to occur the old must be destroyed at some point.

7) you can see the ship in doc, you just cant manually spin it anymore. which was a big deal for people i guess


this post was probably a troll, but i figured what the hell

Zanzbar
Posted - 2011.08.23 21:47:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Zanzbar on 23/08/2011 21:51:04
Its always funny when a player starts by stating that they are new and then follows it up with a wall of text full of ways they want to change a game that they just admited to knowing relativly little about.

1. Its a sandbox in that eve is what you make of it, you make your own path rather then following a set storyline that decides your actions for you.

2. Placing corp logos and possibly having corporate fleet paint jobs on your ships is somthing you would have found that's already being discused had you done any research before proposing your wall of change.

3. Once again if you had done your research you would know that the station environment is brand new and still in the beta stages, trust me they have much bigger plans for this.

4.ok the music score isn't the greatest but simply turn down game music and turn up <insert favorite media software here>

5. Look up some photos from 2007 and back and you will see the huge graphical improvments made in the years and with it the min requirments have gone up. You don't expect to play Ps3 games on an nes do you?, and pc games are no differnt in that better quality requires better hardware.

6. Yes, goto general seting and uncheck load station environment. For now it just shows a door but they plan to bring back the clasic station wich just showed the ship as an option.

Funny how many of the sugestions at the end of your post woould reqire some upgraded visuals, yet you complain about the need for upgraded hardware that they bring.

Btw 93% of all statistics are made up on the spot, 47 % of them were made with little to know factual basis

*edit* - loads of typos

cyno troll
Posted - 2011.08.23 22:01:00 - [4]
 

Don't we want to read the dev blogs before we complain?

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.08.24 00:12:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Coeus Enderas
3) if you added a ship painter i would predict a portion of the community would start shooting at a particular Statue in Jita because it did not add new ships or systems.
Hello Kestrel!

FireSea Moribito
Posted - 2011.08.25 04:03:00 - [6]
 

Quote:
1) your adding percents and numbers with no math to back it up. it does not make your argument look smarter.


I agree. Also my statistics are based on my personal experiences over the last ten years of looking for the perfect MMO, relatively speeking, and are rough estimates. I have yet to find better as I know this country and its people better than most having studied 157 micro-cultures over the last 25 years. In the mean time I hoped to spir interest in those who have the abilities to do the statistics themselves and just maybe make the game better for it if not beyond my hopes.

Quote:
2) EvE is a sandbox, in the same sense GTA is a sandbox, you can do what you want but with restrictions. eve just has fewer restrictions than most MMO's.


GTA is a sandbox as no one actually gets hurt, murdered or robbed. In EvE no one gets murdered but they do get robbed of time, effort and dreams. Yes in real life. Do I spend 4hrs a day grinding missions just to earn a new cruiser for you to blow up because you feel like it? NO! I had hopes of doing harder missions with that new cruiser to earn more money and build a killer corp and making a difference with real people. Time is the most valuable resourse we spend on the game IRL and you just yanked two weeks out from under me. Might as well have stollen the wheels off my car IRL. If I ever met you IRL, if you actually did this that is, I would repay the kindness knowing I am justified.

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3) if you added a ship painter i would predict a portion of the community would start shooting at a particular Statue in Jita because it did not add new ships or systems.


Don't think it would take too much of their time, one person two or three days? I'm not picky, just something to change the hues would be a hell of a lot better than nothing. Besides, its not like it is mandatory, they pick at it when they need a break from their harder work. Little progress at a time. I wouldn't be suprized if something already existed and got forgoten over the years.

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4) adding in-home decorations would have to be handled either through NPC's or the NeX. both of those would get some of the old timers riled up because players did not make them and they cant be blown up. also, see #3


I don't agree. I do see, however, that adding entities like chairs and tables and the ability for the user to manipulate them would take time and effort that they may not afford. Though again, anything would be better than nothing. One spot for a favorite pic?

5)i THINK there is a way to add your own sound track into the game, but ive never tried. i just run WMP or iTunes in the background

So do I and have but I think you missed the point. It would be their music, you would have to be on to listen to it. The better the music the more people will spread EvE's name. "That's a killer tune, where did you find it?" "It's one of many just as good on a game called EvE." ... you get the point? Something like:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDYse9RE0QU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVgSuuUTwQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4UVGT2e0a8&playnext=1&list=PLA75C818AEF8E7758

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LNeMUaJEac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHXZRD5fCa8

Not the best examples and not very brawd in what could be done but they are better than the limits of what is currently EvE tunes.

6) they cannot run the same graphics/physics engines forever. in order for growth to occur the old must be destroyed at some point.

There is a time and place for everything. Now is not the time.

7) you can see the ship in doc, you just cant manually spin it anymore. which was a big deal for people i guess

I'm guessing you missed the point again. Don't want to look at a crap covered toilet every time I dock, yes this is more harsh than deserved but to make a point seen. Would rather just look at a Rupture though it looks like a dirty butt-plug

FireSea Moribito
Posted - 2011.08.25 04:14:00 - [7]
 

TY Zanzbar! Most informitive, just what I was looking for.

As for the statistics, who cares? As for who I am and what I have done, who cares?

The only thing that matters is that EvE gets better.

Just try'n to help you jerks.. see if I do it again. Wink

Fire

Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.08.25 06:47:00 - [8]
 

Quote:
GTA is a sandbox as no one actually gets hurt, murdered or robbed. In EvE no one gets murdered but they do get robbed of time, effort and dreams. Yes in real life. Do I spend 4hrs a day grinding missions just to earn a new cruiser for you to blow up because you feel like it? NO! I had hopes of doing harder missions with that new cruiser to earn more money and build a killer corp and making a difference with real people. Time is the most valuable resourse we spend on the game IRL and you just yanked two weeks out from under me. Might as well have stollen the wheels off my car IRL. If I ever met you IRL, if you actually did this that is, I would repay the kindness knowing I am justified.


Sandbox does not mean you get to do everything you want to do, it means everyone is free to do what they want, including hindering you from achieving your goals. This is the core principle EVE is based on so if you are so much against it it might be an idea to look at if this is really a game you want to play.

Someone is free to suicide gank you, you are free to do that to other people, you in retaliation can hire a mercenary corp to make their lives miserable until the game shuts down (if you have enough ISK to pay the mercs), or go hunt them yourself with friends etc.

That is the sandbox, the choises people make and the conciquences they have, it's people dealing with other people, not you dealing with an NPC universe that happens to have other people in it.

foksieloy
Minmatar
Rockets ponies and rainbows
Posted - 2011.08.25 07:09:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: FireSea Moribito
looking for the perfect MMO


You already found it, but you are not the perfect player for it.

Zanziba'ar
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.08.25 12:57:00 - [10]
 

Quote:
GTA is a sandbox as no one actually gets hurt, murdered or robbed. In EvE no one gets murdered but they do get robbed of time, effort and dreams. Yes in real life. Do I spend 4hrs a day grinding missions just to earn a new cruiser for you to blow up because you feel like it? NO! I had hopes of doing harder missions with that new cruiser to earn more money and build a killer corp and making a difference with real people. Time is the most valuable resourse we spend on the game IRL and you just yanked two weeks out from under me. Might as well have stollen the wheels off my car IRL. If I ever met you IRL, if you actually did this that is....



soo there we have it. its just a ragemail

Zanziba'ar
Minmatar
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.08.25 13:02:00 - [11]
 

oh oh... You spelt Naglfar wrong......

Kaomond
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:23:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: FireSea Moribito
Do I spend 4hrs a day grinding missions just to earn a new cruiser for you to blow up because you feel like it?


A) If you have to spend 4hrs a day grinding missions for a cruiser then you're either doing it worng or being ripped off by people selling cruisers, one or two missions should be enough for a cruiser.
B) In real life you spend months and months of 8hr to 12hr shifts grinding at your job of work to buy a car, at any time that car could be trashed or stolen by someone, granted IRL it's not so common, but it still can and does happen.
C) EVE is not real life.

Aurora Kayzie
Posted - 2011.08.25 16:47:00 - [13]
 

Why does everyone recently want to make this game "pretty"? Rolling Eyes

Kraven Stark
Caldari
Atavism Industries
Posted - 2011.08.25 17:05:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Aurora Kayzie
Why does everyone recently want to make this game "pretty"? Rolling Eyes


Because everyone likes pretty games?

FireSea Moribito
Posted - 2011.09.02 05:41:00 - [15]
 

<SIGh........>












Realy?

Quote:
Sandbox does not mean you get to do everything you want to do, it means everyone is free to do what they want, including hindering you from achieving your goals. This is the core principle EVE is based on so if you are so much against it it might be an idea to look at if this is really a game you want to play.

Someone is free to suicide gank you, you are free to do that to other people, you in retaliation can hire a mercenary corp to make their lives miserable until the game shuts down (if you have enough ISK to pay the mercs), or go hunt them yourself with friends etc.

That is the sandbox, the choises people make and the conciquences they have, it's people dealing with other people, not you dealing with an NPC universe that happens to have other people in it


I'm sorry... do you think that paticular aspect is a problem with me? Could it be, by the tiny post I've written, you have read far too much into it? F U?

I love EVE for that very purpose, alone. I can tollerate the rest for a while. The question is, "Does CCP or 'The' CCP prefer hatemail and the lack of word-of-mouth advertizing? Do they care more about playing the game and holding the delusion that they are.. awsome?.. because they have ALL of the cards... or are they honestly making a difference? Past evidence suggests they care more about the playing the game.. golden ammo... wtf?

Could it be, Mr. Idicious Lightblah, that I was simply 'trying' to communicate the severity of the repercussions for the ten year old's actions? Is this forum not under the same basis of the game and putting you in the very position you are attempting to dismantle? ANSWER ME!!!
(jerk)

>.< ...sigh...

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You already found it, but you are not the perfect player for it./quote]

Mr. Foksieloy, should CCP ban you because you obviously go out of your way to insult 'their' PAYING customers? Have you ever attempted to do the same as in tell someone in wal-mart in front of the store manager, "You are not the perfect customer so get lost."? F U, U F'n git.

(... and I thought 'I' was shallow...)

Quote:
oo there we have it. its just a ragemail



ugh ur a moron

Quote:
A) If you have to spend 4hrs a day grinding missions for a cruiser then you're either doing it worng or being ripped off by people selling cruisers, one or two missions should be enough for a cruiser.
B) In real life you spend months and months of 8hr to 12hr shifts grinding at your job of work to buy a car, at any time that car could be trashed or stolen by someone, granted IRL it's not so common, but it still can and does happen.
C) EVE is not real life.


A. Or I am at a lvl that can't do better atm.

B. U suck at making a point. I agree with B., whats your point? R U lost on what 'Value' realy is? How about passion? Anything? ... hate to see what your rl is like ...

C. EvE is 'IN' real life. Make the F'n connection... jerk...

....taking breath.....


Quote:
Why does everyone recently want to make this game "pretty"?


TY Mr. Kraven Stark, because of your responce to this quote I feel free to say, "WTF? Would you rather wallow in their sht or their hot spring?"


....final sigh.... (lol)

No wonder EvE hasn't gotten further all these years and CCP keeps F'n up. They rely on a bunch of narcissistic 8yr old mindsets for advise...

Look guys'n galls, EvE can be a hundred times better and now.(<<not a type-o)I can see it so much I can tast it.. For this 34yr old, EvE can be a home. Atm it is only a potential and nothing more. A half-asse d almost. Not even a half-asse d there. Just another MMO that almost-ed its way this far. The only thing that they have going for them is the natural romance of space exploration and colonization. If it wasn't for shows like "Firefly", EvE would fade way like the rest of the 'almost' MMO's, a dull blip on the freebe radar.

What I have offered is nothing compaired to what is possible. Responces like yours keep i

FireSea Moribito
Posted - 2011.09.02 05:49:00 - [16]
 

t from getting better.

Pls, all of you. HELP instead of destroy on this forum. If 'Ego' is more important to you then ***** on facebook or something..

Who's to say I am not of CCP myself and "slumming it"?

Fire

foksieloy
Minmatar
Rockets ponies and rainbows
Posted - 2011.09.02 06:21:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: FireSea Moribito
Mr. Foksieloy, should CCP ban you because you obviously go out of your way to insult 'their' PAYING customers?

Show me on the doll where the evil person touched you.

Originally by: FireSea Moribito
Have you ever attempted to do the same as in tell someone in wal-mart in front of the store manager, "You are not the perfect customer so get lost."?


I not only attempted, I also succeeded (well not in Wal-mart since i live in civilised society :>), and I also got a sympathetic nod from the manager for making his life easier, because he didn't have to break any policies to silence a total moron having a raging outburst.

How do you know I didn't get that nod from CCP too concerning you?

Hoshi
Hedron Industries
Red Dwarf Racketeering Division
Posted - 2011.09.02 11:31:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: FireSea Moribito

GTA is a sandbox as no one actually gets hurt, murdered or robbed. In EvE no one gets murdered but they do get robbed of time, effort and dreams. Yes in real life. Do I spend 4hrs a day grinding missions just to earn a new cruiser for you to blow up because you feel like it? NO! I had hopes of doing harder missions with that new cruiser to earn more money and build a killer corp and making a difference with real people. Time is the most valuable resourse we spend on the game IRL and you just yanked two weeks out from under me. Might as well have stollen the wheels off my car IRL. If I ever met you IRL, if you actually did this that is, I would repay the kindness knowing I am justified.

Some people like to build sandcastles, others prefer destorying them. And if you want to take revenge you are more than welcome to try. The fact that your actions actually have consequences, both for yourself and other is what makes EVE a real sandbox and such a great game.

Malcom Vincent
Posted - 2011.09.02 11:35:00 - [19]
 

Welcome to EVE.

As the questions has been answered allready there isn't much to cover.

As for the "interior" topic though (even though this is allready public information), since it would appear that we allready have more Roleplayers joining it serves a bit of iterating.

Incarna has not yet been fully developed.

CCP hasn't released the other Captains Quarters and they also haven't released the content they've created for "the door".

Whether or not they have decided to develop additional placeable decorative items will have to remain an open question at this point, allthough I believe that they are focusing on the NeX Clothing store for character customization at this point.

Im afraid that the RP'ers will simply have to wait for a bit longer for all those features to be fully developed (and in turn result in an increased playerbase us non-rp'ers can all shoot in the face).

Meanwhile, you could join one of the RP corporations that regularly recruit from the forums in preparation for those features.


 

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