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chanteel
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.22 23:20:00 - [1]
 

There have been many pay for sp proposals...

I like the proposal it's not a new idea by any means but maybe its improperly approached.

It needs balance (not with our wallets) but with more of an ingame expanse.

Say a special line of missions is developed where u earn a certain type of lp. When you complete the set of missions you will have aquired enough of a certain lp to exchange it for sp from the npc mission provider. The lp store could have item requirements like the lp stores now this would be the case here. The requirements are 1 plex and a certain amount of lp from the mission a mission that would only be available only once a year.

I say plex because its now a tradeable game item and it generates income for expansions.



Example:
Mission: All mission are a(Solo type) this is for individuals
Missions: Choose 1 category and only 1 there are no repicks/redo and they only become available once a year similar to remaps. Once a mission is started it has an experation date.

LvL 1-1 room mission-easy and provides 1000 lps
LvL 2-2 rooms-moderate 2k lps
LvL 3-3 rooms-hard 3k lps
LvL 4-4 rooms-very Tough 4k lps
LvL 5-5 rooms-extremely Difficult 5k lps


LP STORE:

Requirements: 100 LP = 100k SP
50mil + 100 LP = 100k SP redeemable and allocatable (LP and SP never expire)
1plex + 1000 LP = 1mil SP
-plex + ---- LP = -mil SP
etc......
(Make the LP and SP game Tradable)
I put 50 mil in the first catagory to show a (rough estimate of tradable value) and also as an option to redeem it in small denominations. Plex could apply to redeem large quantity of LP.



(All figures used were mearly to present a plausable idea and not in anyway a stiff inexchangeble case of numerals.)



The contents of this post is a gift to CCP.


(All figures used were mearly to present a plausable idea and not in anyway a stiff inexchangeble case of numerals.)
(All items of information are liable to a subjective view point.)
(All and any Ideas presented here are open and my be subject to crotique.)
(All ideas outlayed may be used by CCP and their consituants.)

Shartifartblast
Minmatar
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.08.22 23:53:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: chanteel
There have been many pay for sp proposals...

...it's not a new idea by any means but maybe its improperly approached.


No, it simply has no reason to exist. Get out.

Baaldor
Black Sail Anarchists
Yarr Collective
Posted - 2011.08.23 00:18:00 - [3]
 

Again, no.

Rehashing the same fail idea, still makes it a fail idea.

Amaradus Caligula
Posted - 2011.08.23 01:14:00 - [4]
 

The only thing i would even consider if anything would be something like a 2 mil SP budget for all new players, for 1 player 1 time per account. They would also have to give every account that already exists that same 2 mil sp boost as well. However, that's not gonna happen, just like the terrible idea you proposed.

Chunicha
Posted - 2011.08.23 01:19:00 - [5]
 

You know what this game doesnt have enough of? Boring mission grinding! Lets have half of every nullsec alliance fly back to empire to grind SP to keep up with each other, what a wonderful idea!

This is a horrible ****ing idea, please dont ever post in this part of the forum ever again.

Darryl Ward
Posted - 2011.08.23 16:05:00 - [6]
 

Not supported. No grinding for skill points.

People will bot and grind for skill points all day, that is what the net result would be.

chanteel
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.23 18:31:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Darryl Ward
Not supported. No grinding for skill points.

People will bot and grind for skill points all day, that is what the net result would be.


HUH ????

The idea is to make the missions only available once per year per character it could even be limited to just once per year per account. They're solo missions, so fleet members wouldn't be allow; if that's not possible then they just wouldn't acquire any of the LP.

Wheres this all day all year idea coming from? Read the post twice because it's not truly not a horrible idea.

Danika Princip
Minmatar
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2011.08.23 18:39:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: chanteel
it's not truly not a horrible idea.


Too obvious, 1/10

Talr Shiar
Posted - 2011.08.23 18:52:00 - [9]
 

no, there should NEVER be a way for someone to get Skillpoints other then playing the game.

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2011.08.23 19:10:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi on 23/08/2011 19:13:34
Originally by: Talr Shiar
no, there should NEVER be a way for someone to get Skillpoints other then playing the game.


I think you need to learn how to read. You focus too hard on one thing in the entire OP. Doing missions for LP is playing the game.

I think it is a rather good idea. Keep PLEX out of it completely though. I think the tradeoff of LP for SP should be minimal and very time consuming almost to the point of just not being worth it. If I had enough LP to say purchase just enough SP to finish off a train I have been waiting on for a while then thats fine. I still had to put in the effort to do missions to obtain the LP.

This is a good idea. Again...the tradeoff should be for a small gain of SP for a lot of LP but I like it.

Baaldor
Black Sail Anarchists
Yarr Collective
Posted - 2011.08.23 21:54:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi on 23/08/2011 19:13:34
Originally by: Talr Shiar
no, there should NEVER be a way for someone to get Skillpoints other then playing the game.


I think you need to learn how to read. You focus too hard on one thing in the entire OP. Doing missions for LP is playing the game.

I think it is a rather good idea. Keep PLEX out of it completely though. I think the tradeoff of LP for SP should be minimal and very time consuming almost to the point of just not being worth it. If I had enough LP to say purchase just enough SP to finish off a train I have been waiting on for a while then thats fine. I still had to put in the effort to do missions to obtain the LP.

This is a good idea. Again...the tradeoff should be for a small gain of SP for a lot of LP but I like it.


I disagree. Mission runners already get plenty or reward in the first place, and at very little risk. Why the hell do they need more?

Boraf Flux
Posted - 2011.08.24 19:05:00 - [12]
 

Not another "I have no patience let my buy my way to what I want and screw what it does to the game" thread.

Not supported.

Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
Tragedy.
Posted - 2011.08.24 19:27:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Baaldor
Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi on 23/08/2011 19:13:34
Originally by: Talr Shiar
no, there should NEVER be a way for someone to get Skillpoints other then playing the game.


I think you need to learn how to read. You focus too hard on one thing in the entire OP. Doing missions for LP is playing the game.

I think it is a rather good idea. Keep PLEX out of it completely though. I think the tradeoff of LP for SP should be minimal and very time consuming almost to the point of just not being worth it. If I had enough LP to say purchase just enough SP to finish off a train I have been waiting on for a while then thats fine. I still had to put in the effort to do missions to obtain the LP.

This is a good idea. Again...the tradeoff should be for a small gain of SP for a lot of LP but I like it.


I disagree. Mission runners already get plenty or reward in the first place, and at very little risk. Why the hell do they need more?


Have you ever done missions for LP before? it takes a rediculous number of missions just to get the smallest of items. I think its rather ubsurd anyway...which is why I dont do missions. The level 5 missions have plenty of danger in that they are mostly in Lowsec and Nullsec already. Not to mention they are the only missions that give you enough LP to be worth it.

chanteel
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.25 23:32:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Vertisce Soritenshi

Have you ever done missions for LP before? it takes a rediculous number of missions just to get the smallest of items. I think its rather ubsurd anyway...which is why I dont do missions. The level 5 missions have plenty of danger in that they are mostly in Lowsec and Nullsec already. Not to mention they are the only missions that give you enough LP to be worth it.


I didn't think they'd be lowsec or null...play around with it if u like....


what did we all do with the 100k sp CCP gave us 1 yr ago?

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.26 01:02:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: souhyeahright
Counter-proposal: drink bleach.

Krakaan Byzantia
Gallente
Bolt Action Drive by
The Imperial Senate
Posted - 2011.08.26 04:19:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Krakaan Byzantia on 26/08/2011 04:21:58
Originally by: souhyeahright
Counter-proposal: drink bleach.


Not empty quoting


You say keep ISK completely out of it but by making it "Tradeable" you give ISK Sellers and BOTs a WHOLE NEW CAN OF S*** to RMT and farm. Once again giving the rich a way to outstrip the regular joes.

Fail Idea. Go home. Stop thinking so hard.

chanteel
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.26 05:37:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Krakaan Byzantia
Edited by: Krakaan Byzantia on 26/08/2011 04:21:58
Originally by: souhyeahright
Counter-proposal: drink bleach.


Not empty quoting


You say keep ISK completely out of it but by making it "Tradeable" you give ISK Sellers and BOTs a WHOLE NEW CAN OF S*** to RMT and farm. Once again giving the rich a way to outstrip the regular joes.

Fail Idea. Go home. Stop thinking so hard.



Lamo u guys still need to slow down when u read.

First off its not something that will be FARMED.
it is a mission available to each person only-only once per year....annnnd u don't trade sp that u already have in your skill sets (because that stuffs not movin).
It is merely a small bit of lp u earned from a new (not yet implemented)and special NPC corp.

That LP if u so desire is redeemable at that 1 npc corp (for SP), so u get that sp... ? well it goes into an allocation spot and sits there until u use it and its very little say 100k - 5mil. thats only once a year mind u and its a push so u get to 450mil+sp before u pass to the after life.


The point is that the small amount of LP / SP thats earned and hasn't been allocated should be tradable. Even LP u currently have from current missions.

LP is like a store token system.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2011.08.26 14:02:00 - [18]
 

Oh yes...lets make CCP drop everything and get them to program something that would happen once a year.

utterly worthless/stupid idea.

Seriously people... if you want the game to be that easy.. get out and go to WOW.

This is EVE Online... you work for your SP... or you GTFO.

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.26 14:12:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Drake Draconis

This is EVE Online... you work for everything... or you GTFO.


FYP Laughing

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.08.26 14:16:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Chunicha
You know what this game doesnt have enough of? Boring mission grinding! Lets have half of every nullsec alliance fly back to empire to grind SP to keep up with each other, what a wonderful idea!

This is a horrible ****ing idea, please dont ever post in this part of the forum ever again.


 

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