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ing Data
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:02:00 - [1]
 

Usually the nah sayers are the people who have there win/loss ratio configured (some even most maybe unaware of this) (basically EOH require a strong player base to survive otherwise they would die) certain players (as we all know who have played on EOH poker there are certain people who tend to win win win win while the rest of us suffer not due to our game play but the fact that your percentage chance of winning has been lowered) so as i am sure this thread will be flamed to **** i couldn give two ****s as i know, and i will leave it for others to decide how they would like to look at it.

To recoding the software which runs the poker client through scripting and code alteration from its defualt settings to wolly cracking the whole program to enable you to (the owner) w/e access you required.
To Collusion! which is rampant and a compounding effect the more colluders there are in any given game you have even LESS of a chance of winning.

All you have to do is go play a few games at EOH and i can pretty much garantee you you will go away feeling robbed the majority of the time (this is true) you been warned now so please do come whine here '[when] you do loose' , while the colluders arent around ALL the time obviously there will be games played that are fair and enjoyable, thats because most of us are not obviously given privileged rights in the client, you can tell when there are colluders as most of the time the colluding games played will go on and on and on the players wont play much against each other but remember they are on voice coms so they can say what they have and negotiate around the apposition 'together' until you the non colluder is blinded out as you will have less chance to get a hit than those colluding (this is the compunding effect)

The program known as Mavens which runs the poker client is a 3rd party program create by brigssoft.com
It can be purchased on three different packages the client for EOH is the 500 dollar one and thus has all features, this software is a simple little program that runs a poker client with normalized algorithms mathematically adjusted for a card game client for randomization (whats important to note is the entire program is quite easily cracked and laid bare for any witty programmer/developer to spill through the code and adjust it to suit his personally preferences) Reprogramming = New program = Customized program = ? = ANYTHING can be changed providing the programmer knows wtf he/she is doing.

In every organisation on the planet to date there is corruption, why? because it is GREED for material value and gain and Greed for power and control, do you really believe that (although eve is just a game [Note] Eve is a real life job for thousands of people] that anyone of us who had control over it [w/e the form of that control maybe] that they wouldnt take advantage?) why? because they are such good kind people?

Bull****. And you all know in your Hearst heart that this be true.



Ahh now there ive said it... hope this helps some people..
Dont play at eoh poker you will loose it all in the end.. i promise you this. be ignorant if you want and learn the hard way.

o/



Xiozor
THE PAROXYSM
Dark Solar Empire
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:05:00 - [2]
 

So, I heard you lost a billion ISK at EOH Poker.

shinson20022
Gallente
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:07:00 - [3]
 

Someone lost all their money and is upset??

EOH is no scam i've played it for years and made billions upon billions.

Try harder m8

MuchCryingOldExpert
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:09:00 - [4]
 

There are other tricks you can use. Something to do with friends and voicecoms. It can increase your chances significantly.

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:16:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: ing Data
All you have to do is go play a few games at EOH and i can pretty much garantee you you will go away feeling robbed the majority of the time (this is true) you been warned now so please do come whine here '[when] you do loose' , while the colluders arent around ALL the time obviously there will be games played that are fair and enjoyable, thats because most of us are not obviously given privileged rights in the client, you can tell when there are colluders as most of the time the colluding games played will go on and on and on the players wont play much against each other but remember they are on voice coms so they can say what they have and negotiate around the apposition 'together' until you the non colluder is blinded out as you will have less chance to get a hit than those colluding (this is the compunding effect)

You should enter a longest run-on sentence competition, maybe you'd do better there than in poker.

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:19:00 - [6]
 

Are you a ******? Mavens is a SERVER SIDE web application. You can't recompile the program to cheat, period. That probably went over your head, so let me clarify it for you. The Mavens software is run on a remote server. The actual game computation is done on the remote web server, and all of the players are simply viewing dumb terminals. Your PC has absolutely no effect on the cards that are dealt. This is just like every other online poker service in existence.

Collusion probably does exist, but in the DT style games it's really not that big of an advantage.

I've played EOH for years and find it to be a great service. I personally haven't run into any rampant collusion or any other obvious cheating.

You lost isk because you're a terrible poker player and now you're whining to the forums, haha.

ibtl

ing Data
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:27:00 - [7]
 

actually nope i didnt loose all my isk at eoh but i did loose yes.. and if you want to call 20 games in a row normal when you play good (poker isnt does have a certain amount of luck in it) but it was no conincedence that i was loosing at almost every attempt at hitting on something to staying allive amoungst the colluders.

Like i said let the nah sayers some out..

It is no conincedence
Its rigged
period

Throughout the first day you started playing at eoh pokerwould you say you are winning? or loosing?

Be honest..
You know yourselves.

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:29:00 - [8]
 

Moved from General Discussion.

ing Data
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:43:00 - [9]
 

OFC i lost isk you ****ing idiot

and it is a web based service that 'CAN' be hosted remotely by the user for server side config..

i never said that your actual computer is controlling the application thats running via your browser

the client is run on a server that requires a certain amount of bandwidth to run
the actual 'computation as you have stated' is in actual fact already configured by default by the actual creator of the client which is brigsoft and it can be reconfigured by the person who buys it server side true but it can also be look into to open the programs code and can be recompiled
certain scripts can be used aswell to gain mroe control as the proprietor.

some people arent as ignorant and obnoxious and self centered as you, sure i lost isk but **** sake its just isk like who ****ing cares right? well i dont but i became so ****ed off @ at eoh (and btw collusion is a SERIOUS problem in eoh (i have done it myself and am unafraid to say it) so **** off i know how EASY it is to collude man. It is HUGE problem.. no matter how much it is down played

think about it OFC the managers and owner are going to do everything and anything in their power to keep it on the downlow.. yet they are powerless to do anything about it. other than banning the offendors who can easily gain new IPs from the ISP and make a new alt or use an existing one.. even if it does mean waiting the 30 days to use ur new alt lol.


So yes i know more about it obviously than your ignoranus self
Take the head from your arse and open your eyes
Or maybe your a colluder? hmmmm Who knows

ing Data
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:49:00 - [10]
 

I actually have one some RL poker tounaments and i pay at poker stars where my account balance is 4000 dollars after only originally put in 500 euro

+0 so like i give a **** about it really because i actually dont.. i am simply a disgruntled X eoh poker player that is shining the light on this yet again

FarosWarrior
Amarr
Pure Dutch Damage Corp
Care Factor
Posted - 2011.08.21 21:48:00 - [11]
 

Looks a lot like:

"I can win on servers where I can pick easy people to play against, EOH is way over my head and people beat me always"

To be honest, I can't play poker for crap and won 500m the time I played it... Stop being bad at poker!

ing Data
Posted - 2011.08.22 00:19:00 - [12]
 

sounds alot like you may have one hella over active amagination there Donk.. did you even bother to read my last post? your just another ignorant prick either that or you havent yet hit puberity either THAT or you are just a fail troll... ime leaning to the latter.

Your om si o at at whn sh jps ni iar sh go stk
rofl

Wolf Hound
The Scope
Posted - 2011.08.22 00:37:00 - [13]
 

Personally it looks to me like a guy is terribad at poker, lost 20 games in a row, blames it on hacks and owner favoritism and then rages about it. 20 Games? Really? That's all? I've played literally thousands of games at EOH, sure collusion happens but they're pretty good about nipping it in the bud. Overall it's an awesome experience and I'd play there any day.

The mavens software is 3rd party, it's got a client and a server, you can modify the client all you want, it can't change the cards dished out by the server, and it won't let you see the hand of anyone else.

Unless you have hard proof that this is a scam, or that the client can be hacked (Not links to sites 'reporting' to have EOH Hacks) then kindly go back into your hole.

xxDameonxx
Posted - 2011.08.22 01:18:00 - [14]
 

i see some one is angry..
poker is poker there is nothing fishy about eoh.

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.08.22 01:23:00 - [15]
 

In the poker bible it says to bring enough cash for at least 20 hands in case you have a bad run.

egola
Amarr
Posted - 2011.08.22 02:42:00 - [16]
 

if you REALLY REALLY ARE as good as you claim (which seems to be okay at best) then you'd know that the majority of the games you'll have ****ty hands, its up to you whether or not to run with them......you ran with them 20 times, it's your loss dude.

Aranoran
art of eve
Gunmen of the Apocalypse
Posted - 2011.08.22 02:51:00 - [17]
 

you have obviously not been to a casino before it would seem.

xxDameonxx
Posted - 2011.08.22 02:59:00 - [18]
 

In the words of Kenny Rogers...

You've got to know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to walk away. Know when to run.

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.08.22 08:53:00 - [19]
 

Newflash: Gambling = not the best way to make money!


Chris Starfire
Posted - 2011.08.22 13:20:00 - [20]
 

I used to be a banker for EOH Poker and i can assure you there is no way that the system can be cheated, if there was dont you think they would hire friends and not average people wanting to work for isk???

You may have lost a bil but ive lost much much more than that and i still play, its just the luck of the cards, if you still want to complain about it then talk to yourself in the mirror because nobody cares about your view of EOH Poker as the rest of us have been playing for years and enjoy it.


 

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