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Noob Ganker
Posted - 2011.08.21 18:20:00 - [1]
 

So, soon I'll be skilling into a Legion. I'm wondering if I should go for the HAM or the Laser legion, though. It'll be used in armor C5/C6 wormhole ops. I have no laser skills, but training lasers, though I have decent gunnery skills (2.6m), and lasers would open up all the other Amarr T2 cruisers. T2 medium lasers, though, would take about a week more than t2 HAMs. As far as HAMs go, I have 1.3m SP in missiles, so not much, but would take less time to get T2 HAMs.

What are the strengths and weaknessses of both? Is it an obvious choice I'm just missing?

Hamatitio
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2011.08.21 18:33:00 - [2]
 

Laser (Pulse) Pros: Better range, faster crystal switching, Can hit frigs for full damage assuming low angular velocity.

HAM Pros: Better damage, Damage selection, Less powergrid usage than pulse lasers so you can fit lawl 2x 1600mm plates, Don't use cap.

Noob Ganker
Posted - 2011.08.21 19:51:00 - [3]
 

Seems like both have definite strengths and weaknesses. Is there one that usually comes out on top for whatever reason in WHs? I can see both being very useful.

Ni'ark
Parnassius Corporation
Inception Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.21 20:51:00 - [4]
 

Lazer legion dont have to worry about amoo, exept scorch.

On the other hand missiles dont have to worry about cap, so if you are neuted dry by sleepers or during pvp you can still aplly damage.

IMO for solo or w/o logi gang i would say laz0rs.

For gang with logis and other ships HAMs, because damage on HAMs increases when you have more people in gang using EWAR like tp, webs.

Hope that helps.

Firemaster
Gallente
Fearless BEAVERS
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2011.08.22 05:07:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Hamatitio
Laser (Pulse) Pros: Better range, faster crystal switching, Can hit frigs for full damage assuming low angular velocity.

HAM Pros: Better damage, Damage selection, Less powergrid usage than pulse lasers so you can fit lawl 2x 1600mm plates, Don't use cap.


Actually laser legions get slightly better damage with conflagration than HAM legions get with rage missiles assuming the same number of damage mods.

Also, Hey Ham Razz

Obvious Forum Troll
Posted - 2011.08.22 05:31:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Obvious Forum Troll on 22/08/2011 05:30:43

Jesus Rambo
Minmatar
Friendship is Magic
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2011.08.22 05:33:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Firemaster
Originally by: Hamatitio
Laser (Pulse) Pros: Better range, faster crystal switching, Can hit frigs for full damage assuming low angular velocity.

HAM Pros: Better damage, Damage selection, Less powergrid usage than pulse lasers so you can fit lawl 2x 1600mm plates, Don't use cap.


Actually laser legions get slightly better damage with conflagration than HAM legions get with rage missiles assuming the same number of damage mods.

Also, Hey Ham Razz


Not surprised about the DPS of conflag vs rage, I only wonder if the sig bloom from rage would at all affect tank. I doubt it since the tank is so far anyways. I'd kinda say lasers.

Also, Hey Fire :P

pussnheels
Amarr
Vintage heavy industries
Posted - 2011.08.22 07:23:00 - [8]
 

Does it matter , legion is just so sexy it is even lethal without guns or missiles

No serious , i have little experience in a HAM legion since i am still training my missile skills , but i do know that a pulse laser legion can hit target up to 40 k + with scorch , frigs even elite frigs usually get instant pop, and up close as a previous poster mentioned conflag against béttleships are a killer , ubnless they angels

In pvp i would probably go for the Ham legion because you can end up being neuted dry , but thats personal choice

Firemaster
Gallente
Fearless BEAVERS
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2011.08.22 11:04:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Jesus Rambo
Originally by: Firemaster
Originally by: Hamatitio

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The sig penalty does cause a HAM legion with rage missiles to take increased damage from many weapons, for instance you would take full damage from the aforementioned rage missiles.

As I side note, I think we have taken over this thread.


 

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