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Toshiroma McDiesel
Posted - 2011.08.25 03:00:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: Doyouevenlift Khagah
do you guys remember de ccp video of butterfly effect?
some random guy is flying in low sec, then see a poor hulk being ****d by pirates, he needs to have a choice, save him, or just shoot at him -then be ****d by the pirates-

in the reality, a miner or poor man carebear in low, is just, FRESH MEAT. There are no hero's here... only a few local pirates or just random guys who want to shoot something at.

If this were a true sandbox, you should see more people fighting these ****ers too, that leads to:
more fun in low sec, more pvp, more traffic.

Maybe that carebear is making profit, but at least is moving supplies to other system who needs it too.



People using this video in this way annoy me. They don't seem to actually watch the end of it.
The video gives you 3 choices....the hero, the pirate.......or you can just fly on by, never be a part of it.

That is part of the problem with new people watching that video, it pretty clearly states at the end that you don't have be involved.

Kraazyfuu
Posted - 2011.08.25 03:14:00 - [152]
 

In regards to the OP. This is the same mentality that ruined Ultima Online.

Sloppy Podfarts
Posted - 2011.08.25 03:22:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: Kraazyfuu
In regards to the OP. This is the same mentality that ruined Ultima Online.


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Gottii
Minmatar
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari
Posted - 2011.08.25 03:28:00 - [154]
 

Man, how did this obvious and fairly lame troll get 6 pages of responses? Shocked

Vicious Cell
Amarr
Grim Determination
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2011.08.25 04:31:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: White Tree
I RAT IN A CARRIER YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH


This made me LOL. Laughing

Tau Cabalander
Posted - 2011.08.25 05:00:00 - [156]
 

Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 25/08/2011 05:05:14
Originally by: Kraazyfuu
In regards to the OP. This is the same mentality that ruined Ultima Online.

For those that don't know, they split the Ultima Online servers into PvE-only Trammel and PvP Felucca facets, they killed UO virtually overnight.

Before the split, I was a PvE-only blacksmith/miner. I was well known by the player-killers (PKs) for my deadly poisoned weapons. I got Great Lord title by killing dragons in Shame L2, while PKs protected me from those that didn't know me as well. My own volunteer bodyguard brigade.

My favorite comment from a PK I didn't know and thought was gonna kill me: "Hey I know you! One of your poisoned swords killed me today! Can I buy one?"

PvE and PvP works fine together if you leave people alone.

I wonder if Markee Dragon of Shattered Crystal would accept my UO stuff in trade for EVE plexes. Markee was a BIG TIME collector/trader. I have a ton of rares and years of veteran rewards piling up (I still have 2 active accts I can't figure out how to cancel). I bet my plants are dead after all these years without water.

Corp Por!

Thornat
Posted - 2011.08.25 09:05:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 25/08/2011 05:05:14
Originally by: Kraazyfuu
In regards to the OP. This is the same mentality that ruined Ultima Online.

For those that don't know, they split the Ultima Online servers into PvE-only Trammel and PvP Felucca facets, they killed UO virtually overnight.

Before the split, I was a PvE-only blacksmith/miner. I was well known by the player-killers (PKs) for my deadly poisoned weapons. I got Great Lord title by killing dragons in Shame L2, while PKs protected me from those that didn't know me as well. My own volunteer bodyguard brigade.

My favorite comment from a PK I didn't know and thought was gonna kill me: "Hey I know you! One of your poisoned swords killed me today! Can I buy one?"

PvE and PvP works fine together if you leave people alone.

I wonder if Markee Dragon of Shattered Crystal would accept my UO stuff in trade for EVE plexes. Markee was a BIG TIME collector/trader. I have a ton of rares and years of veteran rewards piling up (I still have 2 active accts I can't figure out how to cancel). I bet my plants are dead after all these years without water.

Corp Por!



Agreed and thanks for bringing up bad memories.

Ya this was an awful move for more than one reason, but at the end of the day what CCP hopefully learns from lessons such as this and other game changing decesions (NGE anyone) is that once you make a game, you build a community up the time for design decesions is over, you are committed. You can patch and tweak, nerf and buff, but if you change the founding principles on which the game is based you are ****ed. No one has ever been successful in doing something like that and no one ever will.

Sofia Bellard
Posted - 2011.08.25 09:09:00 - [158]
 

In all honesty, the server being split into a PvP only and PvE only server would do this game a world of good.

Ultra bitter ehard pee vee peers get to do their thing, while us more sane and not living in our moms basement get to do ours. Everyone is happy.

What is wrong with that?

Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
Posted - 2011.08.25 09:15:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Sofia Bellard
In all honesty, the server being split into a PvP only and PvE only server would do this game a world of good.

Ultra bitter ehard pee vee peers get to do their thing, while us more sane and not living in our moms basement get to do ours. Everyone is happy.

What is wrong with that?


You are not listening! Silly rabbit...

Kunming
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2011.08.25 09:24:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Sofia Bellard
In all honesty, the server being split into a PvP only and PvE only server would do this game a world of good.

Ultra bitter ehard pee vee peers get to do their thing, while us more sane and not living in our moms basement get to do ours. Everyone is happy.

What is wrong with that?


You need a chill pill; you sound really butthurt.

Im an engaged man, most folks in my corp are either married or already have kids and their own family. We enjoy exclusively PvP, since the PvE content in EVE is pants, and only an authistic would enjoy doing the same mundane and repetetive tasks over and over. The basement nerd is a myth I have yet to meet in EVE...

Although, I have mild sympathy for your anger, since the introduction of PLEX industrialists are not needed in corps anymore you can make a pure pvper corp and just buy PLEX for replacements (admitted most of our corp does that). You are an exposed target I get it. But dont blame the players blame CCP for introducing legal RMT years ago.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.25 09:31:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: Sofia Bellard
In all honesty, the server being split into a PvP only and PvE only server would do this game a world of good.
Well, it would certainly remove all the PvE:ers, since they would no longer be able to play the game, and a week later, that hardware could go back to the normal EVE server.

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.25 12:22:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Sofia Bellard
In all honesty, the server being split into a PvP only and PvE only server would do this game a world of good.
Well, it would certainly remove all the PvE:ers, since they would no longer be able to play the game, and a week later, that hardware could go back to the normal EVE server.


point of interest --> isn't Sisi essentially "PVE Only"? (reasoning "hey asshats, we need to test this")



anyway, Tippia's right; get rid of PVP, and there's no reason to play the game (they'd have to take everything out, except missioning)

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:01:00 - [163]
 

Few, if any, PVE players play the game simply to watch piles of ore/loot/whatever grow larger in their hanger.

If they were truly honest with themselves, what gives them satisfaction is watching those piles grow larger DESPITE the efforts of PVP players to stop them.

Every "hero" needs a "villian" to give his actions meaning.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:04:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Velicitia
point of interest --> isn't Sisi essentially "PVE Only"? (reasoning "hey asshats, we need to test this")
Not really. I'd even argue the opposite: Sisi is essentially PvP-only since none of the (supposed) PvE is even remotely required.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:12:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Gottii
Man, how did this obvious and fairly lame troll get 6 pages of responses? Shocked


and a blue response that answers the question yet it kept on going

Barbelo Valentinian
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:15:00 - [166]
 

Originally by: Ranger 1
Few, if any, PVE players play the game simply to watch piles of ore/loot/whatever grow larger in their hanger.

If they were truly honest with themselves, what gives them satisfaction is watching those piles grow larger DESPITE the efforts of PVP players to stop them.

Every "hero" needs a "villian" to give his actions meaning.


Exactamundo. The bears of EVE are made of stern stuff. If you manage to stick through the painful early months, and make a go of it in EVE as a PvE-er, then you have to have embraced the above concept and come to view your PvE in a somewhat PvP-ish light.

Velicitia
Gallente
Open Designs
Posted - 2011.08.25 14:56:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Velicitia
point of interest --> isn't Sisi essentially "PVE Only"? (reasoning "hey asshats, we need to test this")
Not really. I'd even argue the opposite: Sisi is essentially PvP-only since none of the (supposed) PvE is even remotely required.


ah crap...

I meant "limited combat" -- i.e. i thought there was only one or two regions that allowed the ganking (everything else ... don't be an ass)...

then again, i could be thinking of some other gameLaughing

Komen
Gallente
Capital Enrichment Services
Posted - 2011.08.25 18:13:00 - [168]
 

Troll thread on the verge of epic. Bump.

Sofia Bellard
Posted - 2011.08.29 23:40:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Velicitia
point of interest --> isn't Sisi essentially "PVE Only"? (reasoning "hey asshats, we need to test this")
Not really. I'd even argue the opposite: Sisi is essentially PvP-only since none of the (supposed) PvE is even remotely required.


Actually expanding upon SiSi to be a battleground area is not a bad idea. Players could explore and mission on Tranquility for money. Then when in their captains quarters, plug in to this area to settle disputes. No one really dies or loses a lot, so everyone is ok.

Crystal Liche
Posted - 2011.08.29 23:50:00 - [170]
 

Originally by: Sofia Bellard
Just like the title says; I should be able to focus on the task at hand instead of watching over my shoulder to see if there is some pathetic trying to sneak up on me.

Doing missions in low sec and null demand full attention or you will find yourself in hull from the mission rats. Why should I have to enlist a second person to watch local and spam the directional scanner because someone wants to push their PvP on me?

I didn't do anything to you so why do you want to start a fight?


In some games there are PvP instances, if you join one, you agree to PvP.

In some games there are PvP zones, if you join one, you agree to PvP.

In some games there are PvP servers, if you join one, you agree to PvP.

This is a PvP game, when you joined, you agreed to PvP.

There could be PvP in stations one day, it is a game wide activity.


Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
Posted - 2011.08.30 00:13:00 - [171]
 

Edited by: Narisa Bithon on 30/08/2011 00:19:15
Originally by: MizoSoop
I think that miners should be allowed to force pvpers to mine. Turnabout is fair play. Then we'd see complaints like "a care bear forced me to abandon my pvp roam and mine for hours!" omg!


lol that would be epic fun.... hulk locks pvp'er and activates carebear module.... pvp'er's ship targets roid and begins firing, only his guns have been hijacked and reconfigured to mine veldspar. Pvp'er's ship jets can and begins to fill it with veldspar. hulk pilot laughs when chribba shows up in a hauler and steals the veldspar from the pvp'er Twisted Evil

DeftCrow Redriver
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.08.30 01:10:00 - [172]
 

Eve is made by a bunch of crazy a** guys, descendents of bat sh**crazy guys called Vikings, living in a bat sh** crazy place where nature itself tries to kill off its inhabitants every now and then(this and this, being the most recent examples), or guys sufficiently crazy enough to actually go there to work and live with those crazy a** guys, and you want a game made by them to leave you alone peacefully?

Nehmen Geld
Posted - 2011.08.30 01:47:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: okst666
A while back, my wife played ryzom...
they have something interesting there - a button to opt out pvp.
You cannot agress other players or be agressed by them. I think something like that could work in eve too.


This feature already exists.

To opt out of PVP, select a station in your overview and click the DOCK button.
To opt back into PVP simply click the UNDOCK button.

Problem solved. :)

What Isdees
Posted - 2011.08.30 01:59:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Nope, sorry.


bwa haa haa why is this 6 pages?


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